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No Pencil Primer this time (part three is coming, promise) — instead, a Fresh Points extravaganza to say bye-bye to summer. Blackwing goes big with a Mickey and Friends collection and the gorgeous Frida Kahlo Volume 143, Andy's wristwatch rabbit hole deepens into designing the perfect podcaster's watch, Johnny hand-binds his kids' planners and stocks up on pastel Musgrave Ceres, and Tim shows off Sharpie Harpy art and a compendium of delightfully weird writing prompts.

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Andy 0:00

People come for the number 2 pencils, people stay for the number 2 jokes.

Tim 0:03

There you go.

Johnny 0:12

Hello and welcome to episode 241 of The Erasable Podcast. I'm Johnny Gamber on hosting duties tonight. I'm joined by my favorite and Fresh Points, Tim Wasem and Andy Welfle. What's up, guys? Hello, what's going on guys?

Tim 0:30

Tim's just like, I had a delay because I realized that I was not going through my microphone that whole time. I was going through my webcam. Oh man, I just, I was, I was transitioning over. I wanted you to get the full force feel of that response.

Andy 0:43

The full, the full Timby.

Johnny 0:45

I thought that was like an 8.5B or something like that, which is still pretty damn good. It's pretty good. Yeah, so, um, we promised part 3 of the pencil primers tonight, but I'll take responsibility for having a crazy week and it not happening until next time. But, um, we haven't done a lot of Tools of the Week and Fresh Points, so we thought tonight on a Tuesday we'll pop a nice Fresh Points extravaganza to say bye-bye to summer.

Andy 1:14

So is it that time already?

Johnny 1:15

Sure.

Andy 1:16

Yeah, yeah, I feel like we're just saying hello to summer.

Johnny 1:21

The summer kissed my booty.

Andy 1:23

It's been a lot. Tools of the trade. Let's see, what have I been doing? I've been consuming. There's a show on Netflix that we've been watching called St. Denis Medical. I don't know if any of you have seen this before. I guess it's on NBC as well, or it has been like it's on, but I like barely know what's happening on actual television television nowadays. But this is almost exactly like if The Office took place in a hospital. It is like that same format. It has the same sort of beat. It has the same like character archetypes, like the, the woman who runs the hospital is exactly Michael Scott. Like it is so, so spot on. And there is definitely like the, I don't know, the Jim character and a little bit the Dwight character, although he's like a hotshot surgeon instead of like a nerdy, like, I don't know, paper salesman. But they made 3 or 2 seasons so far. They're going to make a third. Uh, first season is on Netflix, second season on Peacock because that's the world we live in where we're back to not knowing who's running what show where. Yeah. So been watching that. It's, it's nice. It definitely scratches that same itch that, that The Office or Parks and Rec does. I think if I had to pick like a show, like Parks and Rec would be like the one that is like the best to me, for me, just because I feel like it's a little bit more like happy and optimistic than like either of these are, but still, it's really good. There's always, you know, it takes place in the ER. So there's always like, I don't know, some like, we're saving lives kind of a moment at St. Denis Medical. But yeah, been enjoying that. What am I reading? Oh, I am reading something that I don't know if we should talk about it. We got some advanced copies of this book. Oh yeah. Yeah, let's tell you what, I will talk about it and I will take it out. I will email the publisher and ask if it's okay to talk about, but I'll take it out if we can't. But there's a, a gay guy named Gabe Bullard and, um, he is writing a book called Against Convenience, uh, which is a lot about like, it's not like, oh, I'm going analog because I love analog. It's mostly about how we are all sort of addicted to convenience, like with Amazon and with streaming services and with everything on our smartphones and how. That sort of like can be addicting because it kind of squirts that dopamine into our brains. And also how like choosing those convenience, that convenience can like, I don't know, do things like fuel burnout. And also like all of that convenience is like funding an under-economy of people who are not, who are the opposite of convenience, who are serving us in this way with DoorDash and Amazon and like kind of moving slower and adding friction back into our lives can like actually maybe be good in some ways. So It is not out yet. I think it comes out in September. I can't remember the exact date. And we are maybe, or maybe not going to have Gabe on the show to talk about that because I feel like his, uh, his thesis kind of like matches a lot of what we talk about here. So, uh, we have some, uh, some, some galley copies of it that we've been reading. So that's been most of my, most of the time I've been spending on this lately. I don't know about you guys. Have you cracked it open yet?

Johnny 4:34

Not yet, but he's one of the founders of 1A, so like, yeah, that's right. I'm going to like fanboy all over this.

Andy 4:42

I have like, we were talking about this earlier and like, I have some sort of a weird false memory of, um, us interviewing him for some other thing. And I was like, did we even interview like some journalist who's involved in like digital media in some way. Like, I, I just have this like memory of talking to him and I, I don't know where that comes from.

Tim 5:04

What do they call it?

Andy 5:05

Mandela effect. Oh, the Mandela effect.

Johnny 5:07

Yeah.

Andy 5:08

Yeah.

Tim 5:08

I don't know. Something like that.

Andy 5:10

Like, except Mandela effect is like a whole bunch of people like think this thing like the Berenstain Bears or Berenstain Bears or Nelson Mandela dying. And this is like, I don't know what the Mandela effect of one is. Is that just like, I don't know, just Hallucination.

Tim 5:26

Yeah, he's called it a hallucination.

Johnny 5:28

How similar was it? The same mushrooms. Yeah.

Andy 5:30

Yeah. So I don't know. I'm excited about it and I, I'm, if anybody, if any listeners are just like, oh yeah, you totally, Johnny and Tim are wrong. Screw those guys. You know what you're saying?

Johnny 5:43

I said I'm not sure. So I'm wrong no matter what.

Andy 5:46

Well, I did do the thing because I have all of our transcripts, like on my computer and uploaded to Claude, like speaking to convenience. I basically just had Claude like tell me, did we ever interview this guy or somebody like this guy? And Claude was like, no, you're crazy.

Johnny 5:59

No, but I can't wait to burn his book.

Andy 6:00

Yeah, that's true.

Tim 6:05

Thanks Claude.

Johnny 6:06

Thanks for that topic.

Andy 6:07

That's a good point. So yeah, so I'm reading that book when it comes out. I will remind you, but preorder Against Convenience if you, if you can, preorder from the publisher. I'll have a link in show notes because that really helps. That that helps them kind of like judge how much they should print and where they should send it. Things like that. So I'll put a link in show notes and yeah, sometime after it comes out, we might be talking to him, which is cool. And what am I doing— writing on? I have been writing, actually, so I've been using— I think we've talked about this before. I've been using this little Tombow Studio pen that's really cute. It's one of those like little felt tip pens that you fill up with your own ink. So I have a really nice kind of like light orange in here that I've been using for the summer. So I need to go darker for, for the winter. I've also, can't believe I'm saying this, but you've been playing with this mechanical pencil that looks like a pencil by, I can't remember who makes it, but it's basically like a little 2mm like lead holder, except it does auto advance. A friend went to London and went to Choosing Keeping and brought this back for me.

Johnny 7:13

So.

Andy 7:14

This is just the nicest. I know it's real fat. It's been nice to write with. Something else, random thing. The company I work for, so I started a new job about a month and a half ago. It's this company called BetterUp and they sent me a little swag thing with like a lap— like a laptop sleeve and like a little terrible smelling candle, but they sent me this multi pen and I was just like, you know, usually company swag pens are crap. And I was like using this, like, this is really nice. And then I looked at it and it's a PaperMate InkJoy. So I was like, okay, this is, this is like a pretty good one. So good on you, BetterUp, for like doing a nice, a nice multiply pen. Like the green is, is like pretty vibrant and pretty nice.

Tim 7:57

So nice.

Andy 7:59

Yeah. Always, always. That is it for me. How about you, Tim?

Tim 8:04

Well, I've been— I read— I can't remember if I talked about this last time, but I finished it since then. But the new David Sedaris book, I think I did mention.

Andy 8:12

That's right, I need to pick that up.

Tim 8:13

I did finish it and it's really good. Uh, so I definitely recommend that. It's called The Land and Its People, and it's a little different than his past ones. It's like several of the essays— well, first of all, the entire audiobook was recorded at his performances because he performs like 100 times a year or something. So they're all like live readings.

Andy 8:38

Um, how old is that guy?

Tim 8:40

He's probably late 60s or something.

Johnny 8:43

I don't know.

Tim 8:44

Yeah. So he— they're all live, and then there's some of them are like a lot shorter than previous ones, so they almost feel more like sketches, but on purpose. I don't know, it was really interesting. I really enjoyed it. It wasn't one that had me like rolling on the floor laughing. Like, there are some— what's the— when we are engulfed in flames, that one just like cracked me up the entire book. It was so funny.

Andy 9:08

The one about owls is really good.

Tim 9:10

Yeah, diabetes with owls or something like that.

Andy 9:14

Yeah, the one with—

Tim 9:15

um, yeah, that one's really good too. Yeah, so Calypso is my favorite. That's the one. It has like a wood— it's like a plank of wood on the front. There's it looks like a face that's in the, the burls of the wood. That was my favorite. But anyways, but it was really good. So I finished that and I am reading Remarkably Bright Creatures, which is the book about— it's like a Netflix movie now, I guess. But I've had it for like a couple of years and just have delayed and more than that, I think just like, I mean, I got it a long time ago. It was a teacher friend was like, you gotta read this book. And I finally picked it up. And then I saw that there was a movie out, which I haven't watched yet, but it's— I'm not super far into it, but it's, yeah, the book about this woman, this older woman who works at an aquarium. That's what it is. And then so the two narrators, one is this woman who works at the aquarium and the other narrator is an octopus. And he's talking about like, sure, this is my— this is day 1280 of my ocu— or of my, uh, imprisonment or whatever he calls it. Captivity. That's what it is. Yeah, my captivity. And he knows that they live for around 1,600 days. So he's basically counting down the days until he dies. But I'm just at the point where their stories are kind of starting to blend in together. So I'm really enjoying it and it popped back into my memory because I had it and I kept seeing them like, I got to read that, I got to read that. And then someone, I don't know if it was on Reddit or somebody, but some— somewhere. But I had looked up books if you love Ted Lasso as a show. And it was like one that came up, not because it's about the same thing, but just because of like sort of the feel or like the vibe of it.

Andy 10:54

So what's the deal? What's the deal with Ted Lasso this season? Did they like— he's, he's coaching like a women's soccer team now, is that right?

Tim 11:01

Yeah, I haven't even started watching it yet because we're, we're gonna watch it. Jane and I want to watch it together. But yeah, he— well, I did watch the first part of the first episode, but yeah, he's back. He's been back in Kansas City, and then they come to coax him back to coach the new women's team that they're starting at AFC Richmond. And so there's a bunch of characters who are in both, but basically the men's team is not there, man.

Andy 11:27

First time I ever saw that show, I was immediately like, this is Tim Wasem coded. Like, it's, it's like sports but not sports, but there's a lot of sports and just like optimism. And yep, just like, there he is. Yeah, I just instantly was like, yeah, this is, this is for Tim.

Tim 11:42

Oh yeah, I love it. I love that show so much. I've probably watched it 3 or 4 times. Great show. So yeah, book is really good, really enjoying that. And also, I might actually save this and talk about it in a little bit, but I got this new book that I've been waiting for. I had, uh, ordered— it was backordered, but it's called 365, and it's a really interesting— it's called The 365: An Inexhaustible Compendium for Writing, and it's writing exercises, but like really wild ones.

Johnny 12:13

So, oh, cool.

Tim 12:14

Maybe I'll talk about it like during Fresh Points, cuz there's like more to say about it. But I just got that in the other day. It was, I saw it featured in the New York Times and it was, they had like, I think it was the New York Times or the New Yorker, and they had put a sampling of like 6 or 8 of the, see how I avoided saying 6, 7 right there? I was like 6 or. 8 of the, uh, how even of the exercises. And so I went to look for it and it was sold out because it's made by a smaller publisher and it's a really beautiful book. So I'll, but I'll tell you more about that later, but it's really unusual book of, um, unusual in a, in the best way possible of prompts and things for writing. And then the last thing is that I have gotten into just reading jokes, like on— like, just jokes. Like, two guys walk into a bar. Like, it's like become like my happy place to just like— I used to love actual jokes, or listen to, and especially like the story ones. Like, those— I think it got started because I started going back and watching some of those videos of Norm MacDonald, like, telling these just crazy convoluted jokes that just keep going and going and going, and he's like putting on all these bizarre details.

Johnny 13:26

Yeah.

Andy 13:26

Do you know what a shaggy dog story is?

Tim 13:29

I know that term, but what does it mean?

Andy 13:32

It's the way— so my grandmother used to love these and would tell me all the time, and I remember just like cracking up. And from what I remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, Johnny, about what you remember it as, but it's basically like an elaborate pun joke. Like it kind of like builds up into a pun. I'm trying to think of a good example, but yeah, that's— it's sort of like a Really long story joke that kind of ends in this way. Is that what you know it as, Johnny?

Johnny 13:58

Yeah. I think like the joke that ends with the guy saying, do you think I wanted a 12-inch pianist?

Andy 14:03

Yes.

Tim 14:04

Oh, that's a good one.

Johnny 14:04

Yeah.

Tim 14:05

Yeah.

Andy 14:06

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's an exceptionally long rambling joke or narrative that builds up immense anticipation detail only to end in a completely anticlimactic, silly, or pointless punchline.

Johnny 14:19

Yeah.

Tim 14:19

That's excellent. Now I'm glad I know that now. I'm glad I've made that connection cuz I will 100% Google that. I mean, I already have, but I'll, I'll be reading through these later. But I, yeah, I just love a good joke and not like the dad joke stuff. Like, I mean, those are funny sometimes, but like these, yeah, I like the ones that are more of like a, when I, yeah, just like the story.

Andy 14:37

When I was young and I guess a preteenager and got my first typewriter, which, you know, as you do, I remember I remember curating my own, like I had a series of joke books and I would get some from the library and I remember like picking the ones that I especially liked and I would type them out just to like make my own joke book. So I probably still have it somewhere, just like several typewritten pages of Andy's Book of Jokes or something.

Johnny 15:00

That's awesome.

Tim 15:01

That's excellent. My favorite one that I've heard and, uh, a little bit of potty humor in this one, so just be warned. But, uh, trigger warning. There's this kindergarten teacher who's trying to explain to her class, like during vocab times, trying to explain the word definitely and how to use the word correctly. And so to make sure the kids know how the— or know the word and understand the word, she asked them to use it in a sentence. And so the first kid, this girl, raises her hand. She says, the sky is definitely blue. And the teacher said, well, that isn't entirely correct. You know, uh, sometimes it's gray and cloudy. Another student raises his hand and says, "Grass is definitely green." And the teacher replies again, kind of like, "I mean, if grass doesn't get enough water, it can turn brown. So that isn't really correct either." And finally, Billy in the back of the class raises his hand and he said to the teacher, she calls on him and says, "Do farts have lumps?" And she's just kind of baffled and she's like, Teacher looks at him and said, what? No, but that isn't even really a question. I don't think that's a question you want to ask the class in this discussion. And Billy replies and says, oh, well then I definitely just shit my pants. That's, you know, my brand of humor. I just, I thought that was so—

Andy 16:25

you know what, people come to The Erasable Podcast for the pencils, but they stay for the sophisticated humor, is what for the poop jokes.

Tim 16:32

Yeah, the number 2 jokes. Number 2 jokes of plenty.

Andy 16:38

People come for the number 2 pencils, people stay for the number 2 jokes.

Tim 16:42

There you go.

Johnny 16:43

Please do an episode about that.

Tim 16:45

Yeah. All right, so wasted enough time with that. Sorry for dragging everybody through that, but I am writing with this. Uh, I got these in. I finally ordered some of the Is the River Alive? and this is the most beautiful Field Notes I've ever held in my hands. I think this is my favorite I've ever had. I just love this one so much.

Andy 17:06

I keep meaning to pick up the book, his book, that's like the same, has the same cover.

Johnny 17:11

Yeah, it's good.

Tim 17:14

I'll need to get that too.

Johnny 17:15

He always has like a nod to mushrooms somewhere in his books. This one has one.

Tim 17:18

It's cool.

Johnny 17:19

There's a character, Robert McFarlane.

Tim 17:23

Yeah, but I just, that is so beautiful. It's so nice. Paper is really nice. Been using Fountain pens, I've mostly been using a pen lately. Been using the Uni-ball Air Micro still. I just, I love it as a pocket pen. It's a good one. So nice. Uh, what about you, Johnny?

Johnny 17:41

So, so I am reading Hamnet, which apparently everyone already read because it's a movie now. Yeah, but, um, it came out in 2020. It was a really big deal by, uh, Maggie O'Farrell, who apparently was already a very big deal. So to remedy being late with that, I read Land as soon as it came out, which is her most recent book about a guy who draws maps for the Redcoats after the famine. So it's like, you know, cartography stands in for lots of things. It's really, really good. I don't want to spoil it, but I did look on IMDb and I think someone bought the rights, so I would want to see it just for the scenery they talk about. But, um, Hamnet is about Shakespeare and his wife and their kid Hamnet, who dies of the plague. And, um, it's depressing, really depressing, but it's good. It's one of those, yeah, I'm looking forward to reading a chapter of that, but I'm only going to read one books.

Andy 18:40

This is something I probably should know because like you said, everybody watched it except me. Is Hamlet in any way related to Hamnet? Like Did he draw inspiration? Oh, okay.

Johnny 18:50

Yeah. I mean, apparently there's this whole school of thought that like I've never heard of. I laughed at English majors in college.

Andy 18:58

Hey, that was my own fault.

Tim 18:59

It was the right thing to do. Yeah, me too.

Johnny 19:02

My roommate was an English major and he was a smart guy.

Andy 19:05

Not as smart as you, but you know.

Johnny 19:07

I don't know about that.

Tim 19:09

You're like, good luck getting a job with your English degree.

Johnny 19:13

That's like my philosophy. Yeah. Um, So we recently watched— I don't know, have you guys seen that? It was— I guess it's a series, but if it was fiction, they would call it like an ensemble series, where it's called American Manhunt, and they have 3 seasons, one about Osama bin Laden, one about, um, O.J. Simpson, and one about— or I can't remember, but they haven't done the Unabomber, which would be interesting. But, um, we like binged those, and it was like trash TV. But there was a series on Netflix called Legends with Steve Coogan, who I thought was supposed to be funny, but this isn't funny, and he's not funny. He's really good in it. It's a show about British customs workers during when heroin first started coming into the UK because they could do stuff that police couldn't do. It's so— Legend refers to like their, um, undercover identity. Oh wow, it was like 6 episodes. I watched it in 2 nights because it was like so good I couldn't stop. But definitely check that out if you're, you know, up late, you know, I want to watch something awesome with really cool '80s music. But, um, yeah, so that's all I got for that section. But for writing, I'm enjoying the hell out of a Musgrave Sarus from the America 250 set in blue, and there's cedar, and they're like magnificent pencils.

Andy 20:36

I didn't think I realized they were— they were Sarus. Yeah, yeah.

Johnny 20:40

So my kid— you know, pastels are really big right now, so I got my kids a gross of the Ceres in pastel for back to school and like, you know, forever because it's a lot of pencils. But I picked up another dozen of those while I was at it, like, anymore. I really like them. The finish is great, like the center of the eraser is really good for a white eraser. Really digging it. And along with that, I've been enjoying the Levenger TrueWriter in Seaglass. They made two of. They made the older one when they had, um, the black metal caps, and then when Esterbrook came back around, they switched the caps for matching ones. So it's the latter one. Oh, I do have one of the old ones, but, um, yeah, it's really pretty. It looks like sea glass. And they have a really nice ink called Empyrean that I don't know what it's supposed to look like, but it looks like navy blue and teal had a very beautiful baby. It's like really nice ink.

Tim 21:37

That's cool.

Johnny 21:37

And like the other Levenger inks, it doesn't like crappy paper, but it's like really saturated but still comes out of your pen well. It's really nice.

Tim 21:45

What's it called again?

Johnny 21:46

The ink? Imperian.

Andy 21:48

Imperian.

Johnny 21:49

Yeah, it's like they ship their ink, or they used to ship refills and pens free, and now they'll ship bottled ink free too. So they just, you know, raise the price to like $20 or $25 to make up for it, but they always have sales, so you can probably snag it. I think mine was free because I had points. As one does. But, um, yeah, it's very seasonal. I don't know what I'm gonna use next. They have one that came out recently called Mocha, and I really like their coffee-themed pens, so that's probably on deck.

Andy 22:17

Remind me how many True Writers you're on to now, Johnny.

Johnny 22:22

Uh, more than 100, less than 150. Okay. I mean, I have a lot of doubles of the collectible ones because I'm a pig.

Tim 22:31

They're on sale. Ink's on sale right now.

Johnny 22:34

Sweet.

Tim 22:35

20 bucks.

Johnny 22:36

A double of— you're not gonna be able to see this if you're not a Patreon member— of, uh, Ultraviolet. I got this for like 40 bucks. I already had one, but the one I have is beat up. This one's new. Very happy. But, um, yeah, they're— they're— they designed it to be an everyday pen, and despite the fact that they're now $100 a pop if you pay full price, they're very good, reliable pens. You can swap out the nibs, easy to clean, durable. I've dropped mine a bunch of times. Yeah, which is always a plus. So how about we drop on some Fresh Points? Get out yonder masterpiece and sharpen that sumbitch up.

Andy 23:16

I'll tell you what, man, it's Tuesday.

Tim 23:19

Yeah, I guess Tuesday.

Andy 23:22

Yeah, Tuesday, Lennon. Um, I guess before we start with that, a reminder that like, if you're listening to this episode and you would like to see our beautiful faces and the occasional demo of something that we're holding up to the screen, come join us on Patreon. If you—

Tim 23:40

Johnny's cool backgrounds.

Andy 23:41

Johnny's. Yeah. It looks like he's like right in front of the Eye of Sauron right now.

Johnny 23:46

Uh, I looked up fires of hell and this is what came up.

Tim 23:49

Perfect.

Andy 23:52

Um, so if you, if you go to Patreon, patreon.com/erasable and pledge, uh, or become a member at any level, you can get this video and, uh, occasional cool other stuff. So that's there. Uh, Fresh Points. So since we left, I mean, I talked about this last time, but also like I've gone even deeper in the rabbit hole, uh, since last time about watches and wristwatches and Man, I'm definitely like going deep on that and it's been like, I don't know, my, you know how like during the pandemic we all were, we were all just sort of like hyperfixated on something to escape the horrors, like, like sourdough or whatever.

Johnny 24:36

I'm a couple of those.

Andy 24:37

Yeah. Zines, bookbinding, um, fountain pens, fountain pens, pencils. Well, the, I guess the horrors of you know, like mid-2026, uh, for me that's watches. So early 2026 it was cameras, now it's watches. So I'm just like—

Johnny 24:55

that's because you're like, I don't want to see this anymore, when is it over?

Andy 25:00

Yeah, exactly. Going deep. And it's been— yeah, it's been really interesting. I think the thing that is really the most interesting to me is watch dial design and the choices that are made there, because I can't remember if I mentioned this last time, but like You know, watches, like most of the like variations out there come from like different jobs, right? Like, hey, this is for pilots or this is for divers or this is for race car drivers or this is for railmasters or something like that. And they all—

Tim 25:29

sewage workers, sewage workers, like plumber's watch.

Johnny 25:33

Exactly.

Andy 25:34

And it all, it all kind of affects like what numbers get shown or how the numbers are shown. Like, I really love something I learned about myself. I really love like military field watches because they really— all the numbers 1 through 12 is on there. Like, they do it specifically to— for like legibility and contrast. So if you're in, you know, in the war zone, you can like just really glance at your wrist and kind of see what time it is. And I actually just found out— so, uh, you know, the like old field watch that was in Interstellar, like that Hamilton watch that like played a part where like they would control the like ticking to send a message back through time— Hamilton actually makes that. You can buy a recreation of it. It's called the Field Murph, because, you know, Murph is the, the character and it's, yeah, it, anyway, I don't need to spend $1,000 on a watch. And so I just, I don't know, I've been thinking about like all these like little design choices that like lead up to these, this, like this language of watch style design. And what's been going through my head is what would a podcaster's watch look like?

Johnny 26:40

So I think it would be different according to like what kind of podcast. Yeah, like if the host was a millennial, the podcast would go, or the watch would have at 12 o'clock, and whenever you wanted to know what time it was, instead of answering the question, it would go, yeah, and then it would answer the question.

Andy 27:00

It's funny you should say that. Anyway, that reminds me, um, so, so the things that I've been thinking about for this was like You know, the outer hands instead of like hours, like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 through 12, it would actually be minutes because, you know, as a podcaster, you're like more focused on like the minutes that you've been recording.

Tim 27:18

Right.

Andy 27:19

And I think that this is my, this is what I've been playing around with. Uh, cuz I've been just like playing, uh, the last 10 minutes and this is a little bit of like a, I don't know what the right word, like a straw man, but like the last 10 minutes would be somehow highlighted.

Tim 27:33

So.

Andy 27:33

And with racing watches, like if you're racing cars, the first like 10 minutes on the watch dial, the hand, like the numbers are like especially sort of highlighted because like the first several seconds matters.

Johnny 27:44

Right.

Andy 27:45

I think with podcasts, it's the last several seconds because that's when you're like trying to wrap it up. Last several minutes, I should say, not seconds. So yeah, I think that that probably like the 50 to 60 minutes are somehow like highlighted or called out. I don't know. So I've also, another fun thing I've been doing is trying to—

Tim 28:03

put like a decibel meter on it or something.

Andy 28:05

Yeah.

Johnny 28:05

Ooh, cool.

Andy 28:07

I like that. Put like a, like a sound. I've also been trying to figure out how one manufactures dials because like, I think it'd be cool. I've, I've decided to like build my own watch. You can buy like just the movement and just a case and just the hands and things like that. And just for fun. That's what I've been wanting to do. So I've been just really going deep on like, how do you actually like manufacture a watch, which has to be really high legibility and high resolution on a very, very small like size. So for example, like this is like a watch dial, like divorced from its, its case, right? Like it's just a tiny little dot and you have to pack a lot of information in there. That's like typically 29mm radius is like the typical watch dial. Some of 'em are bigger, but that's kind of the basic one. So I don't know. It's just a fun thing to think about. And part of me was just like, you know, I've been researching, there are a lot of books about watches. There are not a lot of books about watch design, like why these things came to be. And nobody steal my idea, but I would love to, like, wouldn't it be cool to write a book kind of like The Notebook, like the book that Rolly Allen wrote, but about watches instead of notebooks. Right. Just like little chapters that have like little stories about how like something came to be. So I someday, if I'm like, next time I get laid off, or if I just like wanna have fun, maybe I'll work on that. Maybe I'll pitch that around. But yeah, been doing watch style design, thinking about that a lot.

Tim 29:36

That's cool.

Johnny 29:37

That's cool. Yeah.

Andy 29:38

Yeah. We've been, I know we, we here have been talking a lot about like Timex and just kind of like how, just what a, stallwart they are kind of in the space. And I'm wearing my like Timex Expedition watch, which has just really legible numbers on there. Like just nice and big, which I love. And also like, I really like this old kind of case style, which is very like from the like 1970s and '80s. They call it like a, I think Omega calls it like a C-shaped case or something. I just really see, I just really like it. So.

Tim 30:10

I'm still wearing my revived. You inspired me to revive my old Iron Man. It's like a Timex Iron Man. It's just like a total cheap watch, but I've had this for like 12 years and it's been dead for 5, and I finally got it back going. I missed it.

Andy 30:23

Yeah, you see, that keeps on ticking.

Johnny 30:26

So Rosie has a Timex Weekender like mine, but hers is smaller. And, um, the— in Baltimore City Schools, like, they have a new policy, no phones, etc. So her teacher went around and took everyone's watch because they all had smartwatches, but she got to keep hers.

Andy 30:39

Oh, nice. Cause dumb watch.

Johnny 30:40

I don't know. Just like everyone kept asking what time it is.

Andy 30:42

Just like, see, I, I did do a splurge a little bit on eBay and I bought a very, very historical watch, uh, which is a Timex Mickey Mouse watch.

Tim 30:55

Hey, there you go. Yeah.

Andy 30:57

This was, this was the first one that they made that was electric. So this like has an electric kind of quartz movement back there. So this is from like the I think this is from the mid to late '70s, but it's a, I don't know. It's fun. I'm not like a Disney adult, but that watch is cool. So, so yeah, that's been, that's kind of the rabbit hole I've been going down just, just for the hell of it. Erica has, is very tired of me talking about watches. So that's why I'm telling you all this instead of just like, hey, that's why we have this podcast. Yes, exactly. Like we can go down our like little hyperfixation rabbit holes. Yeah. This podcast should be called Info Dump.

Johnny 31:36

Info number 2.

Andy 31:37

Yeah. A couple other things. And then I wanna talk about some of the— we can talk about some of the Blackwings, but, um, I— something fun that I did is if you are part of stationery YouTube at all, you've probably seen that all the stores are getting their like Hobonichis in soon. So all of the designs are going up on there. I, I have decided, I think last year, I'm sure I talked about this last year. I, I bought a Hobonichi Weeks. I kind of like, kind of just pored over the details and which ones I wanted to get. And I think that my Hobonichi experiment did not stick. And I think one of the big reasons—

Johnny 32:12

yeah.

Andy 32:13

And I loved it. It was fun, but also like it just, the pre-made layout just wasn't for me. Like those grids are super small. As much as like Tomoe River paper, that kind of like thin vellum is nice. Like it just isn't, isn't for me. And then like, I just don't use— I know Johnny, you're going to talk a little bit about planners and stuff, but I just don't use those like kind of weekly by the day planner pages. Like all of my planner and organizational stuff are basically like bullet journal style stuff. And I'm going back to Field Notes cause I can do my own grid in there and I'm kind of not bound by that, but that doesn't stop me from appreciating the Hobonichi Weeks, which I still think are really beautiful. And there's some cool ones. There's some Victoria and Albert, like the V&A Museum in London, some cool collaborations that you know, involve them. That's really neat. There's some other cool ones too, but I think that's my favorite. So go look on the, um, my brain is not working, the stationery store in Brooklyn. Uh, they just hosted the big stationery fest. Um, Yoseka Stationery, their YouTube channel, they have like a 35-minute video of them just showing all the new Hobonichi stuff that's coming out. So yeah, that's pretty fun.

Johnny 33:20

So hard to pick. So I made it to April 21st in mind before I gave up. But so I had the daily one. I don't know what that's called, but it, it's not a useful format for me. Yeah.

Andy 33:31

Is that the Cousin or the Techo?

Johnny 33:34

That sounds right. Yeah. I got the hardcover one that's blue with like a gold slash.

Andy 33:39

Okay.

Johnny 33:39

It's really well made. It's a really pretty book, but yeah.

Andy 33:42

And that's, that's why I liked it just cuz as an object of interest, it's so gorgeous. And I made it till like, yeah, somewhere in April because I, I basically Used it. Well, I started in December 1st is when mine started and I made it through into April. And by that point I had gotten laid off. And so I didn't really have like work stuff to put in there. So that it all kind of fell apart then. So, oh, I'm a liar.

Johnny 34:05

I made it to May.

Andy 34:07

Look at you.

Johnny 34:07

I had lab work and I never did it again.

Andy 34:10

Which, uh, which cover did you get? Remind me.

Johnny 34:12

It's, we're not gonna be able to see it. It's navy blue with a stripe.

Andy 34:16

Oh yeah.

Johnny 34:16

Okay. It's cool. Like, it's durable. I've dropped it and thrown it around. Doesn't look like it did. Yeah. But I like, I need weekly.

Tim 34:24

Yeah.

Johnny 34:25

It's too much to bring stuff that didn't get done.

Andy 34:27

Yeah. And something, somebody like Brad who writes very tiny, I feel like that's great for him cuz that grid is so small and yeah.

Tim 34:35

Yeah.

Andy 34:35

Somebody like me, like I'm just kind of big and sloppy. Like it isn't, it doesn't, doesn't work great. Like I love, I love the Field Notes. Like. Lined paper because like the lined, like generally speaking, like it's just, it's nice and nice and tall. So you can fit a lot of, fit a lot of crap in there. Big, big sloppy American handwriting. Um, so that's Hobonichi stuff. Speaking of, I don't know, Brad and all that stuff. Uh, the San Francisco Pen Show is this weekend, which is cool. My friend Bruce from Bungo Box is in town. We had brunch yesterday or on Saturday.

Tim 35:07

However.

Andy 35:08

I am probably not going to the pen show. I, it's so fricking crowded. It is, it's A, it's not in San Francisco. It's like 30 miles down the coast. Kind of hard to get to when you don't have a car. Uh, and also it's just so crowded. It's in this hotel and it feels like kind of like a fire safety hazard. Like it, it, there's so many people and the hallways are like, literally you have to kind of like jam your way through people and I typically go mostly just to see my friends anyway. And like, like Joe Craze is there and Ian Schon is there and Ana's usually there and, you know, Bruce and Taizo and Brad, you know, but it's like, they're working. So like, they don't have a lot of time to hang out and talk.

Tim 35:51

Uh, is it like a not enough space situation or is it a, there's just that many people that are there? Like, is it like, it's both.

Andy 35:56

I think that, so they have been steadily growing, like every year there's just more and more people who come and they do charge like entry fees and they do charge exhibitors. So they have like revenue that comes in that grows, but to sort of like move from one space to the next, it costs so much money. They're spending like literally hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this. And this is all run by volunteers who are really like rightfully so, like, like, I don't want to take on this personal burden if nobody comes to the show. So they're very conservative about how they grow. Um, whereas like something like the New York Stationery Festival that Yoseka put on, like, I mean, that was also apparently really crowded and sold out, but like they have professional professional event planners who plan that. So it's a lot more logistics. And I think the San Francisco Pen Show people, like, I mean, they're all volunteer. This isn't the kind of thing that they do. I think that like they need to take the next step cuz like, I don't know what that is. Like if it's a conference center, what they've been doing at like hotel, like conference hotels, exhi— exhibition, like halls and hotels. And it's just, it's too much. They have like vendors in the hallways. They have, It's just a lot. So I'm, uh, what on earth, Johnny?

Johnny 37:10

Fire marshal. You know, the fire marshal Bill from Living Color.

Tim 37:12

Oh yes.

Johnny 37:13

I'm dating with them.

Andy 37:17

Jenny's just putting a GIF in our Google Doc.

Tim 37:21

A very disturbing GIF of fire marshal Bill.

Andy 37:23

One thing I will mention from the pen show, um, Ian Schon. Has anybody seen Ian Schon's new dip nib? No, uh, he just, uh, posted maybe last week on Instagram. He's making a dip nib now, kind of the same roll titanium, like CNC'd out. Looks really cool. Also, it's like $68, which for any— for a Schon design, that is really inexpensive. Of course, you have to put it in one of his, like, barrels, which are another couple hundred. But I don't know, I keep breaking glass nibs, so— because I have kind of a heavy hand, and so I might pick up one of his, which is good.

Tim 38:00

Um, so you just have to use his, it's only compatible with that. It's not like an all-in-one unit where it's like some sort of minimal version.

Andy 38:08

I don't know. It's not, it is a stick-in and I'm willing to bet that he has some sort of backwards compatibility. Like if your pen can fit this nib, it can fit this thing. I actually don't know that he's going to debut it at the pen show. And then I think you can buy it online like a couple of weeks later. So I think that might just do that.

Tim 38:24

Stuff it into like a string cheese or something and then use it.

Andy 38:29

That'd be great.

Johnny 38:30

Pretty hard.

Andy 38:31

Have a little snack while you sample your inks. I love that.

Tim 38:35

Yeah.

Andy 38:35

I'm sorry, Johnny. I have to, I have to delete this. This is very distracting. Every time I look over. All right. Uh, Pencil stuff, Hobonichi stuff. Uh, let's talk about some Blackwings.

Johnny 38:48

Um, you mentioned Disney adults.

Andy 38:51

Yeah. Speaking of Disney adults, this is something, oh man, they, I feel like Blackwing and also Charles, Charles's personal Instagram, everybody's just like been teasing this forever. And I get it. Like if you wanna work with, with the mouse, like I've worked at companies that have like Disney as clients and they are very specific and very like, you know, this is how we are, you gotta, you gotta do what we want. And it's funny because Blackwing's also kind of like that. So I've been really interested to see, and of course, you know, it usually has to do with who has the power in that case. Like, right? Like sometimes when Blackwing's talking to like individual, like, like small indie stationery shops, like Blackwing's the one with the power, but I'm sure in this case, Disney's the one with the power. But all this to say, uh, Blackwing has Disney pencils now, which is really cool. And for people like, You know, this is automatic good gifts for Disney adults. Like my sisters, been thinking about getting them a pack, like one of my sisters, a pack of these, cuz they're good pencils and Disney stuff. And it's the, oh, let's see. Let me go to their website. It is people who know more about Disney than I do probably know this, but it's like, um, like some sort of like a retro Mickey Mouse thing. Is that, do either of you know what I'm talking about?

Johnny 40:06

No idea.

Tim 40:06

I mean, I'm looking at it, but I don't know the story.

Andy 40:10

But yeah, they're, um, yeah, it's sort of like a Disney and Friends is what it's called. And I guess it's like a, just like a, like a retro throwback, just like classic Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Pluto, Donald kind of thing. And they have these like pencils with like some nice bright colors and like the, the characters on them and kind of this retro look. And of course they have a slate notebook and a sharpener in the way that they do. And you can buy a pack and I like the sharpener. Yeah.

Johnny 40:41

Yeah.

Andy 40:41

The sharpener's really nice.

Tim 40:42

It's got a cool color and yeah. I like like the Mickey sort of like picking up or like I, I even get behind that, but yeah.

Andy 40:51

And we are, we are fully up into $40 a dozen now. Uh, this. This Blackwing, or yeah, this, this set is, uh, $40 for the Disney things, which maybe, maybe that extra $4 is for like licensing rights or something. Cause I think even their limited editions are still like $36, right?

Tim 41:11

I bet they're even making less money off of this one, just hoping to sell more of them. Like, yeah, they might even be paying, I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if they were paying $8 in licensing or something, but just hoping they sell a billion of them.

Andy 41:24

So, and yeah, no, no idea kind of what, yeah, that arrangement is, is this Blackwing licensing from Disney or is this Disney saying like, oh, hey, like you are now our exclusive high-end pencil provider or something. I don't know. Can I go to like a gift shop in a Disney park and get this?

Johnny 41:42

Maybe.

Andy 41:43

I don't know.

Johnny 41:43

Yeah. Oh my God. How much would that cost there?

Andy 41:46

I don't know. You can get your $24 frozen margarita and your your Mickey Mouse, uh, Blackwing set.

Johnny 41:54

Yeah, you're on the way home, you're looking up your phone, you're like, they're only $40 a dozen? Perfect. I got ripped off.

Andy 42:01

Have you seen— I was watching— I got ripped off about—

Johnny 42:07

gosh, about—

Andy 42:10

have you seen that you— that Instagram thing that's like #disneymath? It's like people who like plan vacations to Disney and like have to pay for hotels and like the FastPass to get through the lines and like It's like hashtag Disney math. It's like, when is it real?

Johnny 42:23

I thought you said Disney math.

Andy 42:26

Disney, I mean, kind of.

Tim 42:27

That's really expensive.

Johnny 42:29

Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's what I'm talking about. Expensive flavors.

Andy 42:34

They call it pixie dust.

Johnny 42:36

It's just like heavily curated experiences.

Tim 42:41

Tinkerbell.

Andy 42:42

It's just like crushed up crystal meth that comes out of a little Tinkerbell, uh, container.

Johnny 42:48

If you want to sleep for 4 days, you should try our Dopey blend. You want to be really smart? We got the Doc combo.

Andy 42:59

Uh, episode title: Disney Math. So yeah, I— you guys don't have these in hand, right? Like, you don't know? I don't know what these— okay, um, I'm gonna go look at the Blackwing. They are— oh, they're soft! They're the soft graphite ones, which is interesting.

Johnny 43:14

Interesting.

Andy 43:15

I would have, I would expect them to go with like firm or balanced or something, but yeah. Soft. I don't know. Maybe soft is still like kind of the bestseller. I feel like they still very much lean into that for a lot of people. Yeah.

Tim 43:27

Seems like it.

Andy 43:27

Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you wanna talk about the, uh, anything else to say with the Disney pencils or should we move on to the, the volumes?

Johnny 43:35

Yeah. Yeah.

Tim 43:37

Yeah. Let's do the volumes.

Andy 43:38

Yeah.

Johnny 43:39

Yeah.

Tim 43:39

Yeah.

Andy 43:39

This one was really cool. I, So every once in a while, because I live geographically pretty close to Stockton, I get my pencils in before they announce it. So sometimes I just like can see it before other people do. So these came in, I think like on Friday. And yeah, I, so remember how last week or last time we were talking about how we really liked the Paletas Field Notes edition. It was very much related to like Mexican Americans. It had kind of in the face of like America's 250th anniversary, like we celebrated a Mexican thing, which is kind of fun and maybe a little bit charged. And I think that maybe we even joked that like Blackwing wouldn't dare. So I'm prepared and glad and ready to eat my words because these are the Frida Kahlo edition. And I, yeah, did not at all guess it based on their teaser, but like, these are really beautiful. Like I'm holding it up to the camera right now and it has kind of like a teal eraser and like a pink ferrule, which I think is a new one. new color, kind of a pink metallic ferrule and just sort of a nice, like, thick floral Frida Kahlo-ish thing with like kind of some birds and lips and squigglies and some flowers. And yeah, I just really like the colors and it is like still wrapped, right? Like the design is wrapped. And so there is, uh, they did, I think they did a little bit better of a job of like cutting the pattern off at the seams. So it is Uh, it doesn't like cut off the pattern and it just kind of ends there. You can kind of see where it ends. It just kind of mirrors to the next one. So I think they did a pretty good job with that.

Johnny 45:18

Um, yeah. Um, like, are they a wrap again? They have to be a wrap.

Andy 45:21

I think so.

Johnny 45:22

Oh, yeah. I couldn't paint this. Yeah.

Andy 45:24

I think it's still a wrap.

Tim 45:26

Yeah.

Andy 45:26

But they, I think they did a very kind of careful job with it. They, they kind of used this pattern that's on the box, 143, I guess. Uh, signifies the number of paintings commonly attributed to Frida Kahlo over the course of her life.

Tim 45:42

So interesting.

Johnny 45:43

Yeah, the quality control of these is a whole different game than the last several years of volumes. Yeah, my ferrules are all on there very neatly.

Andy 45:52

Yeah, I noticed that, and I wonder, like, there's got to be something consideration in the production run that, like, I'm just not thinking about, right? Like, I know that they attach the ferrules to the blanks or to the pencils once they come back to the US. And so are they making, are they doing them more carefully because it's a smaller run than they usually do? I don't know. I have no idea.

Johnny 46:13

They provide coffee for whoever does it.

Andy 46:16

Yeah.

Tim 46:16

I'd say with that, that wrap is probably not super forgiving either. Like when they, so they have, you know, be extra careful somehow just because I imagine that that one isn't as forgiving as like a more solid color or something that's Yeah. Yeah.

Johnny 46:31

I don't know. Yeah. My burnt ones looked like I put 'em on. They were pretty bad.

Andy 46:34

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at the, at the lineup and yeah, like the, it's very much made so like the side that has the Blackwing imprint on it is kind of like flat side up. So when it's like laying on the desk, it can be, you know, showing that. But yeah, I, I don't know. This is, I think my favorite edition. I'm gonna go look at a list of like, you know, what they've, what they've been doing lately. But I think this is my favorite volumes in, in a while.

Johnny 47:02

Right?

Andy 47:02

Like they, the last one was, there was the bird one and then there was the like 343, the television one. And oh yeah, there was, yeah, there was the, um, volume 11, the like basketball one, which like I forgot about, which I think tells you, I don't know, you know, more about that.

Tim 47:20

There's a basketball one.

Andy 47:22

Yeah, right, the Bill Russell one. Uh, this might be my favorite.

Tim 47:25

I still don't remember.

Andy 47:26

Okay, yeah, since, um, the Golden Gate Bridge one, I think.

Johnny 47:30

Um, yeah, these are definitely my favorite wrap, like by far. These are really pretty.

Andy 47:36

Yeah, I wish we could bring back the way that they did it with the Tahoe one where it was like that subtle raised texture, and I think probably those wrap technology, but they did a really good job of making that very seamless. It was so nice to hold.

Tim 47:50

That was really early on.

Andy 47:51

That was like within our first couple of years, but let's do one of those again. But yeah, these are—

Johnny 47:56

that one shared with this one that it was like really saturated. Like that was like, holy crap, I see this from a million miles away, blue.

Andy 48:02

Yeah. And that's another good point is— yeah, this is saturated. This is very, it's very bold color. And I feel like it's not kind of washed out. Like, like the, the Jerry Garcia one, the 710 is like, that, that was kind of a cool design, but also it was like a little. A little faded, a little kind of like, um, desaturated. So this one is really bold and it is very— I'm sure I'm not on Facebook anymore, so I'm sure some of the people in the field, the groups are just like, oh, these are very feminine. Like, these are too girly for me.

Johnny 48:32

Everybody hates everything.

Andy 48:34

Yeah.

Johnny 48:35

But so did you get your subscriber extra?

Andy 48:38

I did.

Johnny 48:38

I did. It's so cute.

Andy 48:40

It is a little It's a little mirror with a little flower on it and you can open it up.

Johnny 48:46

So I'm getting old and I don't use mirrors, but I really appreciate that. I could, if I wanted to.

Andy 48:51

Let me see if I can get a, get Tim in that, that frame there. There you go. Hey, you get, here's Johnny.

Johnny 49:00

Anyhow.

Andy 49:02

Yeah. Yeah. I, I need to sharpen one of these up, but it is the soft graphite, like the Disney ones. So always a banger.

Johnny 49:10

Yeah.

Andy 49:11

Any, uh, anything else?

Johnny 49:12

Yes.

Tim 49:12

I like the, again, I like the sharpener. Yeah. Like with that, with that, that design's really cool with the flower. Yeah. The notebook's beautiful.

Andy 49:20

I love that notebook. I, I don't think, I mean, I, I don't need another notebook, but yeah, that was, that was gorgeous. That notebook. Gosh, I don't know. Maybe I do want that sharpener. Do I need a third Blackwing one-stage sharpener?

Johnny 49:35

Well, it's not in your pocket. I need more than one.

Tim 49:41

I gave one to Henry. Okay, requested to take one to school, and I was like, yeah, this is a big responsibility, bud.

Johnny 49:48

This is—

Tim 49:49

don't let your stupid friends use this, okay? Like, yeah, just start lending this around.

Andy 49:53

Yeah, sign your—

Tim 49:55

it stops working, we can change the blade, throw in the trash.

Andy 49:58

You know what I just realized is so 3 issues ago, they started doing this little zine that comes out with the quarterly. Did I— is this new, or have I just not noticed this? Is they're selling the zine for $10 on their website?

Johnny 50:12

$10?

Andy 50:13

Yeah. I don't— I mean, don't buy it. I don't think it's worth that, but it is cool that that's what they include in the subscribers edition.

Johnny 50:19

So, I mean, it's, it's cool. It doesn't look like AI slop or anything.

Andy 50:24

Yeah. I like that they do a zine. Like, I appreciate the sort of like editorial nature of it and that they're like, you know, picking through this and it's always 10-ish pages. They have like a little thing about like, like it's really high quality. It's well printed. I should probably hoard these cuz you know, that's how, who I am. But, um, and it has a little bit more about like the, the theme that goes with, there's some coloring pages in here, but like, I like the coloring pages.

Johnny 50:52

That's pretty awesome.

Andy 50:53

Uh, I don't, I'd be interested to know if anybody's paying $10 for it.

Johnny 50:56

On the website, and it's copyright the Frida Kahlo Corporation. Okay, not a phrase I would ever think I'd hear.

Andy 51:04

Yeah, over her grave, if she has a grave, just cranking out the Frida Kahlos.

Tim 51:09

Like, yeah, cool.

Andy 51:13

That is it for me and Blackwings and stuff. Tim, what are you— what's new with you?

Tim 51:19

I got a couple quick ones. One is I got a early birthday gift from my brother-in-law and discovered this really cool artist. So she's based out of, uh, North Carolina, like near Asheville. And I sent you guys a picture of this, but those of you who are watching on Patreon, this is the picture. And her name, or she goes by Sharpie Harpy, and, uh, sells these out of several places in Asheville. And I looked her up on Etsy and she— so this pen, if you can't see it, I didn't describe it there. 2 pencils that are drawn in Sharpie, but really cool. And I can't really get like the detail close up enough on the screen, but it does really cool stuff. And this was one that he said that he'd just seen like several times, and he's like, I finally bought it this year. He said, I've been eyeballing this for like a couple years to get you and finally got it for your birthday this year, uh, and I love it. And also went— I went to her Etsy shop, which FYI is 12,400 sales, which I was like, oh my gosh, that's wild. But an excellent place to look for ideas for tattoos. Just going to throw that out there because of her style. The pumpkin and like the lizard, like she's got these like lizards and stuff and they all, you know, have some similar themes. There's some weird ones that I love too.

Andy 52:34

Did you, um, I assume you saw this, Tim. You can buy the rights to use her artwork as that tattoo on here. Did you see that?

Tim 52:40

Oh, I didn't even see that.

Andy 52:42

Yeah. If you, if you go to her—

Tim 52:43

Oh, it's a tattoo ticket.

Andy 52:43

You pay your $25 and it grants the rights to get my artwork tattooed, which I think is a really—

Tim 52:49

that's cool.

Andy 52:49

Neat idea because, you know, people might still just steal it, but if they kind of want to do the right thing, but don't know how, like, this is—

Tim 52:55

this is how. That's an excellent idea.

Andy 52:57

That's really cool.

Tim 52:57

Awesome. So very cool artist. Yeah. Sharpie Harpy on Etsy. I put it in the show notes so you can check it out. The only other thing— well, one is I'll mention that I think from my experience, I've bought a few notebooks for people recently, and I've been buying Leuchtturm notebooks as gifts for like non-pen pencil freaks like us. And that is the new number one gift choice for like a notebook, like, that you can get at a store. Like, it's like one that my— like, this for my father-in-law, I just like picked one up at a Barnes Noble, and people who would normally never do that— it's not Moleskine anymore, like, usually those would be cool to get, but like everybody I've given one to recently has just like gushed over it. So I just want to throw that out there. Like, they're— those notebooks are so great. I got him like softback 5x8 one and he like just kept talking about it. That was really exciting. So just gonna throw that out there.

Johnny 53:48

I mean, they're nice for something made by a machine.

Tim 53:50

That's right. You know, that's what I'm saying. Like if I had to pick something up at a store and I wasn't, you know, in a convenient location near Baltimore where I could scoop up.

Johnny 53:59

They do a really good job with their color choices, I think.

Tim 54:03

Yeah, for sure.

Johnny 54:04

Yeah. Okay. That's, if you look at 'em, you'll know what I mean. Like they do a really good job.

Andy 54:07

If you want a notebook that somebody has literally bled for. Go to Johnny.

Tim 54:12

That's right. You might include some. Yeah.

Johnny 54:14

Yeah.

Andy 54:14

If you're lucky.

Johnny 54:16

And if it does.

Tim 54:20

And I wanted to, I, I won't say too much about it. Maybe this might be a fun thing to do some other time. Like, but I wanted to mention this book again, 365. It's by Lucy Ives, is her name. Prompts, Acts, Divinations, an inexhaustible compendium for writing, but it's called 365 cuz there's 365 writing prompts. But just to give you like an idea of what these are like, I mean, they're really unusual and like how out there writing prompts, but all, but not in like, you know, not like a bizarre way. Let me just find an example. Well, this one's just a one sentence. It's called The Waves and it says, write a story with a plural narrator.

Andy 54:55

Huh.

Tim 54:55

I don't know what that is, but I wanna try it now. But you know, it's just like writing is like we, it's all like a, like a multiple, which like, that's just a, a neat exercise. But some of 'em are much more like involved or actually ask you to do things. Go out and let's see, I'll try this one. This one's called Microscript. Wait to receive a piece of paper that's a scrap. The paper must turn up in a pocket or have been left on a desk or table or in a drawer. It must be a fragment and have become disconnected from the narrative of your life in some way. It might also be a found item with no direct connection to your own experience, save that you chose to pick it up. Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to write a very short story on this scrap. The story must have a beginning, middle, and end. You must also find a way to mention or thematize the scrap itself within the story. Again, the words of your story must fit on the scrap. Consider writing a collection of such stories. So very like outside the box exercises that some of them you can just pick up and do right away. But there are other ones which I can't find them because there's so many, but there are some that are kind of like this week. Keep an eye out for this and keep a list of this. And then like at the end of the week, it gives you sort of like an idea of what to do with it. It's a really cool book. It's also a really beautiful book. If you see like the bind, it has like, oh wow, look at that blue side. Then the color, if it shows up, it has sort of like a gradient color to it.

Andy 56:17

Yeah.

Tim 56:18

And one of my favorite details is it has 3 ribbons, page markers in it attached to the top, which is, uh, just a really cool unexpected feature. Cause it was like, that's a, That's an interesting choice, but then it made perfect sense cuz you're gonna find favorites. You're gonna find the next one you wanna do, but you wanna mark the one that you're doing. Just a really well thought out book. It's done by Siglio Press. So it's, it was backordered. Mine finally came. I love it. I'm gonna start messing around with it more this week. Yeah.

Andy 56:49

I wonder if I can find that in a, a bookstore around here.

Tim 56:53

Yeah.

Johnny 56:53

Yeah.

Tim 56:54

But this, that seems like it would be a thing or likely thing.

Johnny 56:58

Yeah, yeah.

Tim 56:58

But that's all I got.

Johnny 57:01

Nice. So, um, I know we're pressed for time, so I'll be really quick. I made planners this year because my kids wanted planners, because they use planners, and they couldn't pick them. And I was like, the hell with it, I'll just make some. So that was a fun adventure and like wanting to blow my head off, like, with all the imposition. And at the end, I realized I didn't include any note pages, and it would have been so easy to do that.

Andy 57:21

So, oh yeah. Do you have, um, well, okay, so let's— I want to hear about this. How did— tell me about the layout design decisions that you made with the planner.

Johnny 57:31

I just like, you know, a week on two pages, so I just did a week on two pages. And, um, it's set up for 2026, but you still have to write the date. So I feel like that was like a good medium between like setting up a bullet journal and like having to sit down with it, but also it's not totally blank. And, um, it just has like a simple thing at the beginning of every month, like stuff I want to get done, important dates, and then at the end, you know, stuff that went well, stuff that sucked, stuff to try again. And then I didn't know what else to do because it's just like for the kiddos and I had to hurry up and get them done. I could— the thing is, like, they can be bound anyway, so I don't know where to start. Yeah, I made 3 and one was like traditional cloth, one was really wacky, and one was Semi-wacky.

Andy 58:20

I'm, I'm looking at your website now, Johnny, and I don't know how I missed this. This is really cool. The '90s diskette journals.

Johnny 58:26

Yeah, those sell like crazy.

Andy 58:28

Yeah, they, um, so Johnny made, I don't know, where did you find these floppy disks?

Johnny 58:33

Oh, I bought 'em on eBay. They were unused cuz I ran out of, I used ones.

Andy 58:38

They're little, um, 3.5-inch floppy disks as covers. with, uh, a bunch of pages, like lined pages, kind of like inside. And you can get 'em in like, they're like the age of like late '90s with the like bright color translucent plastic floppy disks. I had a bunch of those.

Johnny 58:59

Uh, they're really brittle.

Andy 59:01

Yeah.

Johnny 59:02

I've broken a couple of 'em.

Tim 59:03

Yeah.

Andy 59:03

These are, this is so cool. I, uh, yeah, I love those.

Johnny 59:07

I won't, let me know what color you want. Such one.

Andy 59:09

Uh, as long as you want yellow or red, cuz blue, purple, and green are sold out.

Johnny 59:13

I gotta buy some more. People are charging so much money for those things. They actually, like, ironically are very expensive to make. Yeah.

Andy 59:21

You know what I want is a, a ZipDisk notebook. Do you remember ZipDisks?

Johnny 59:27

That could be done.

Tim 59:27

Aren't those chunkier?

Andy 59:29

They're, they were 100 megabytes instead of 1.4 megabytes. And I, I had a ZipDrive on my, my first computer and I just could not, I was like, what am I gonna I'll never fill up 100 megabytes. I say with my 1 terabyte hard drive that is getting full as we record.

Johnny 59:52

I'd get like a semester on a floppy disk. Yeah, you know, when my friend showed me how to put them in folders, I was like, holy crap, you're a computer wizard.

Andy 1:00:01

So yeah, I don't know, you have some cool stuff on your on your website, Johnny. I think you're, you're so humble about it, like you don't talk about a lot of this, and you have like a huge inventory.

Johnny 1:00:14

And yeah, yeah, I need to make some space. I need to have a sale or something. Yeah, sometimes people like buy like a huge box of books and I'm like, awesome, look at all that empty space, but also what the hell am I going to put these in? Yeah, cool. So, um, my only other Fresh Point is that we had an accidental Musgrave back to school. Because, um, I mentioned my kids were really into pastel stuff, and, um, their pastel Ticonderogas were like, you know, they're all right. But the Sarah's ones were like $8 or $9 a dozen or $27 for a gross. I'm like, well— and like, Henry wanted all the blue ones, so like, there are 12 blue ones. And, um, I bought a bunch of stuff for myself while I was there. They don't— I don't think they sell it anymore. They had that little— sorry, when the machined aluminum sharpener They're made by a Japanese company that's 3 letters, and, um, they still sell the refills, so I always pick up 2 when I'm there. But it's like 2 blades for 1 hole. It's really like effortless and awesome. Hmm, they should bring those back.

Tim 1:01:15

Those are really cool.

Johnny 1:01:15

I think the Pencils.com was carrying them, that brand, for a little while. But, um, yeah, they, um, I'm afraid they're gonna sell out of those Saras, so next time I'm getting a gross of those things too because they're like super nice. Like, oh, so nice.

Andy 1:01:31

Yeah, that is a really good price.

Johnny 1:01:32

Perfection.

Andy 1:01:33

Yeah, yeah.

Johnny 1:01:34

I like the colors, you know. It's a sharp Musgrave corner, so the paint is sort of iridescent. So when you turn it, it almost looks like it's a fade, but it's not. It's like, ah, what was in that coffee? It's really awesome.

Andy 1:01:49

You know what I still don't own yet is one of the new Tesscoring 100s.

Johnny 1:01:53

Oh, with that sweet new ferrule?

Andy 1:01:54

Yeah, I need to grab one of those.

Johnny 1:01:56

They're so cute, so pretty, so pretty. I miss my weird TS fanboy. Yeah, I've worn my shirts threadbare. I need to get some new ones.

Andy 1:02:08

Oh yeah, well, they're still selling the Tennessee Reds on their website.

Johnny 1:02:13

Yeah, I noticed they've been out of the, um, Tennessee Rounds for a long time. I hope that doesn't mean anything. Yeah, but I think they still have the seconds of the Rounds and regular ones, but I like— I own a lot of Tennessee Reds because I was afraid they might stop making them. Like, I have like so many.

Andy 1:02:30

I meant the t-shirt. They still have the Tennessee Red t-shirts on the website, but also, yeah, the pencils themselves.

Johnny 1:02:37

I always wonder— I'm always waiting for someone to ask me where I'm from. Like, oh, not Tennessee. But if I were from somewhere else, I could dig Shelbyville.

Andy 1:02:49

See, Tim, that could just be part of your regular collection, Tennessee and Pencils.

Johnny 1:02:53

There you go.

Tim 1:02:54

And, and speaking of Musgrave, just reminded me, the— they have the Songbird Edition. Oh yeah, Martin passed away today.

Andy 1:03:03

That's right.

Tim 1:03:04

Which—

Johnny 1:03:05

oh yeah, I thought my kids were joking. Like, that's not funny.

Tim 1:03:07

Yeah, I did too at first. Yeah, it's like one of those things, but anyways, yeah, that didn't make me think of that. So that's Tennessee News right there.

Johnny 1:03:17

Yeah, that would be a really nice Blackwing Edition. They do a good job with that. That would be nice.

Tim 1:03:22

Oh yeah, it's like a giant yellow eraser that comes off the top. That's not like normal, just like a big wig.

Andy 1:03:30

It's like, comes sparkle, sparkle barrel, sparkles, like pink glitter.

Johnny 1:03:37

Yeah, give it a nice texture for grip. Kill your pencil sharpeners. So, um, I think that's all we got for this evening. So thank you. Everyone for listening. And for Patreon supporters, thank you for watching. Blow kisses, and we'll see you on the other side of the leapfrog, probably.

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