Description & Show Notes
Andy's out this week for the best possible reason — he got married! (Congratulations, Andy and Erica! 🎉) So Johnny and Tim keep it short and sweet with a catch-up and some fresh points: Tim falls down a Blaze Foley rabbit hole and digs into a new book on heartland rock, Johnny can't stop playing No Man's Sky, and both Henries pick up guitars.
- Erasable Patreon
- Erasable Podcast Discord invite
- Blaze Foley — Live at the Austin Outhouse
- Blaze (2018), Ethan Hawke's film about Blaze Foley
- Won't Back Down: Heartland Rock and the Fight for America by Erin Osmon
- Andor
- King of the Hill
- No Man's Sky
- A Short History of Nearly Everything 2.0 by Bill Bryson
- A Perfect Circle — "Starless" (new single)
- Arab Strap — "You You You" (new single + video)
- Field Notes Explore America memo books
- Grandma Gatewood's Walk by Ben Montgomery
- Pencil graphite lighter video
- Musgrave America 250 collection
- Fisher Space Pen — America 250 AG7 Astronaut Pen
- Nahvalur Horizon Pride 2026 fountain pen
- The Trevor Project
- War by Sebastian Junger
This transcript was generated from an audio file by AI, and may contain inaccuracies.
Transcript
I'm going to be an excellent old man. I've known that since I was like, since I was 5. I knew I was going to dig retirement from the moment that I like learned about retirement. I was like, oh, that's going to be good.
Hello and welcome to episode 238 of The Erasable Podcast. I'm Johnny Gamber in Baltimore, and with me is Tim Wasem in Johnson City, Tennessee. Hey, Tim.
What's up, Johnny?
How's it going?
It's going pretty good. I'm going pretty good. Things are staying mild here weather-wise, but we have a billion things to do because it's summer, you know, break. I love that they call it summer break. I sounded like Trump there for a second. I love that they call it summer break. Most people don't realize you don't really get a break. Summer. Yeah. Yeah. That's should be called spring. Get busier.
You're disgrace.
I just thought of that. So, uh, yeah, we're just shuffling kids to camps. I'm, I'm getting ready to leave for Florida for 5 days with my kids' youth group, which was a decision I made with middle schoolers. So yeah, we're gonna do that, leave it on Friday. Yeah, doing pretty good.
I think a lot of coffee, too much.
And the World Cup starts tomorrow. Oh yeah, definitely. I'm gonna bring like one of those big like Yeti tumbler things with the screw-on lids. It's just gonna be full of cold brew.
I'm just gonna be like, yeah, yeah.
And that's like a chug jug in Fortnite.
What book was it? In War, Sebastian Junger mentioned putting instant coffee like in his CamelBak. Like when people used to do CamelBaks, I'm like, yeah, cuz he was in Afghanistan with like, literally there were like children, they're like 18, 19. They didn't drink coffee.
Yeah, sure.
They all drink it now. Yeah. So, uh, you might know that's why I was—
so how are you doing? So I didn't, I didn't, I didn't—
same. My kids are still in school.
That's crazy.
But my oldest has a prestigious Bloomberg artist something internship this year, which involves like all this professional development and networking and like, uh, help with your college essay and stuff like that. And then they also pay you. Like, why are they paying you? This is like really awesome the way it is. It's really cool.
Are you sure you want to pay me?
Like, I would do it. Yeah, I'm not a rising senior.
That's awesome.
Yes, that's cool. My other kids have camps like later in the summer. Rosie has drama camp. It's weird, it's for a quiet kid. When she gets on stage, she blooms.
That's cool.
Yeah.
My kids are at soccer and Henry has some soccer camps like right now. He doesn't have much for the rest of the summer, but Lila's at art camps like all day. There's a cool art studio here in town and it's like 9 to 4. They're doing— this week is clay, next week is painting, the week after that is like illustration or something like that.
That's really cool.
Did them last year. Really? Yeah. Loves it.
Henry has one week of that. He usually gets out of summer camps. He doesn't like to do stuff like Not this year. One week. Yeah. Half a day.
Do something.
Like you can't play the ADHD card with daddy. Okay. I gave it to you. We take our Adderall together in the morning. It's like a bonding thing. It's cute.
Exactly. It's your ritual. Yeah, no, I know that well. That's, that's our, we have a similar ritual in this house.
I'm like, Henry, look what color mine are. Like every month, you know, they use a different supplier. This time they're the color of like gross egg yolk. Look, and he's like, that's gross. Mine are still blue.
Mine's like the color of salmon. Yeah. Henry's are blue.
Different dosage, Henry. Like, take one of mine. Woo! So, uh, one of us is missing today, which you might notice. Yeah. But, uh, so our third co-host Andy got married last week in San Francisco. So many congratulations to Andy and Erica.
Congratulations.
Hopefully they're off doing something amazing somewhere.
Hope so. Yeah, absolutely. We'll miss them. We'll be glad to have them back.
Yeah. I got married in 2003. I still haven't had a honeymoon. No, really? Grad school. We went back to school.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's the, I mean, we went, we got married in 2010 and we went on our honeymoon, but it was like 35 degrees in Florida, so we didn't do much. Um, we just kind of like watched movies all day, which was fun. And then went back to school.
We planned one for, um, a month after Rosie starts college. We're gonna just spend a couple months in Europe and come back for the holidays, supposedly. Let's see if that works.
Yeah. Yeah.
The world might ban us from traveling to their countries by then. Will there be a Europe?
Well, will there be a Europe? Yeah. Well, congratulations, Andy and Erica. Really happy for you two.
I wish we could have been there. It was Henry's birthday and he's like, please don't leave on my birthday. Okay, that's true. You know what, like, there aren't that many birthdays. You're still going to be here.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a weird thought.
Yeah, our Henrys are both 13, and 5 years they'll start college, and to them it's forever. But I'm like, 5 years?
Yeah, I just like— I remember just like it was, like it was yesterday. I remember being just totally overwhelmed by having a 6-year-old at church one time, and this woman walked up and she's like, how old is he? This old woman, I was like, "He's 6," and I was like scrambling behind him. She's like, "Oh, well, enjoy it." I rolled my eyes because that's what, you know, what people say. But then she said, "He's already spent a third of his time with you." I was like, "Damn it." Like, "You wicked woman." That's gonna just be on my mind every day for the next rest of my life or whatever, you know, like, so I think about that literally like daily almost. I mean, just like definitely weekly, seeing that often.
And my brother texted me last week. He's like, you have a teenager. I'm like, bro, I have 2 teenagers.
I'm like, oh yeah. When you, so this brings up a point that happened when Henry turned, or my Henry turned 13. I realized the day of his birthday, like the day before when he was 12 years and 363 days old or 4 days old or whatever, like one, one day short. And I met somebody and they'd be like, oh, I have a teenager. I'd be like, whoa. Okay. Wow. This person's got a teenager. It's just one day. It just, something clicks where something's different. It just doesn't feel real until it happens. So now it's like, it's wild. It was like overnight, all of a sudden it's like, oh, oh yeah. Okay. That does happen eventually, doesn't it? It always felt so far away. Now.
Yeah. Remember he's like, oh, this girl gave me a guitar pick. I'm like, well, you're a teenager. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
A good looking kid, got long hair, plays guitar, wears big sweaters. Teenage daddy. So, uh, today we're just gonna Checking into a short episode because Andy's not here and we want to include Andy when we do the next, uh, what are we calling it? Pencil tutorial, pencil school 2.0.
Is it 101 or is it 201 or is it 2.1 or 1.2?
I don't know. All the manufacturers have different numbers.
Who knows? HB2, we can call it whatever we want. Yeah.
Yeah. That's so if folks missed it last time, we went on a deep dive into pencil cores and next time we're going to work out into the pencil itself. So that'll be fun and fragrant, like sharpen up a bunch of pencils, put them in a jar while we're recording. So why don't we jump in with some tools of the trade? Do you want to go first, Tim?
Sure.
Yeah.
Um, so I have been listening to a guy named Blaze Foley. That can't be as— who I didn't— well, no, it's not. No, it is. It is not. That is his stage name, but I think he like actually changed it too. But I, I was aware of him loosely, but because of a John Prine song that ended up, I've learned was written by Blaze Foley. He has this amazing song called Clay Pigeons, which I highly recommend to everyone. And I learned at some point that it was a song by Blaze Foley and maybe listened to a couple tracks and he's kind of like a '60s, '70s folk singer kind of thing, but has that kind of country blues sound to him. Anyways, but I had like learned about him a while ago and then was watching one of my favorite celebrity interviews, like people to hear interviewed. And if it pops up on, you know, YouTube, I'm going to watch it. Ethan Hawke. I could listen to him. I could listen to him talk about anything, you know. And there was one interview and he was talking about how he made a movie about Blaze Foley. Like it was in, you know, that guy on YouTube who, and they do it Of course it's on all platforms, but he talks to like musicians and celebrities on the street and like asks them about music and they put headphones on. Have you seen these? Okay. They're really, I forget what they're called off the top of my head. I'll have to find it. But he plays a Blaze Foley song. He's like, ah, I made a movie about him. And I was like, I need to watch that movie. And that just sent me down this whole rabbit hole, like learning about Blaze Foley. And he is fantastic. And he's got this live album called Live From, I think it's called Live From the Outhouse, which is a venue in Texas, I guess. But it's like a totally unedited live show. So like you just hear him rambling like between songs and he's like, was that good enough for the recording? And he's like talking like, it's just, they just left it in and it's, it's wonderful. It's so good. And then I've been reading a new book that just came out maybe a couple months ago or a month ago. It's called Won't Back Down and it is, it's called Won't Back Down: Heartland Rock and the Fight for America. So it's kind of about the like explosion of blue collar pop superstars like Springsteen, Bonnie Raitt, Tom Petty, John Mellencamp. But then like the best part of the book is it's like all these like second tier ones as far as popularity-wise that you just haven't heard about. And so they mention, oh, well, this album was one that would've been on all these people's radar and they would've known about this, and this guy was really good, but he, you know, died in a car wreck when he was 26. And, or, you know, like, so you're learning about all these like little connections to like a lot of the music that I like. I mean, especially I've talked about Tom Petty a million times, but there's a lot of artists that are in it and it's named after one of his songs, obviously, Won't Back Down. But it's a really good book. It's a really good, like, I like, I like music. I like hit books that tackle like a period in time through music or through film and stuff like that. So it's, it's talking a lot about just the, uh, The Reagan '80s and kind of like what all these guys, how they like interacted with all that and the No Nukes concerts and yeah, it's a good read. I highly recommend it.
This makes me feel old. I remember this. Yeah.
I mean, I was little, but I remember when it was, but yeah, I highly recommend it. So if you like this kind of music, it's also just a great way to like find a bunch of other stuff to listen to. And then as far as watching, uh, Henry and I are watching Andor and gosh, that show is so incredible. So fantastic. I'd watched most of the first season. I'd never watched the second season, and Henry hadn't watched any of it. And so we started from the beginning and I, I just, that's like, it's gotta be the Andor into Rogue One has to be at the pinnacle of all the Star Wars stuff.
It's 100%.
I love it. And on a different note, King of the Hill. I started watching King of the Hill from start to finish for the first time. I watched it reruns after school every day for, I don't know, 6 years or something. So I probably saw most. I definitely have watched 12, 13, 14 episodes so far, something like that. And I would say I remember 10 of them just from, just from watching it. But it's so good. And I love Hank's like sneaky wisdom that pops into, pops in like in it moments. Like there's one, I can't remember exactly what Bobby says, but Bobby's like, if They're talking about baseball strategy and he pulled Bobby, pulled out like a technicality and he's like, but technically if he hits me, then I'll get to go to first base, which is kind of like pre-Moneyball baseball. It's something which is now like what everybody does. But he says something along those lines of like, well, technically won't this happen? And then Hank says, cut it out, boy. There's no time for playing lawyer ball or something like that. I was like, oh God, I'm gonna remember that forever now. Like, that's so funny.
It's an episode where he caught Bobby smoking and he was like, look, if you're gonna do something, even if it's wrong, do it right. He's like, that's not how you smoke.
Yeah, I love the— I just watched the episode where they like, they take him out to do like the watanahi or whatever, like the— oh my God, that's so funny. And they kill the whooping crane because they think it's a snipe and they're That, and Bobby thinks he's a shaman by the end of it. I was like, this show is perfect. It's so good. Cause he just, he thought he healed the whooping crane. It's like, no, he was just, you know, knocked out cold. Uh, so good.
I love that show. And Tom Petty was on it later.
He was. Yeah, I remember that. I hadn't, I'm not obviously not there yet, but I did watch the Willie Nelson episode. It was one of these first like 12 where he, he like hits him in the face with a golf ball. And then Willie, Willie Nelson like sits down in Hank and Dale's cart and just like falls asleep on the steering wheel and drives their cart away. That's like, yeah, anyways, great show. I'm so happy and glad that I, I had a friend come over and we had a, a fire and he recommended, he's like, you know what, I just finished watching King of the Hill. I was like, damn, it's time. I gotta do it.
We used to talk about how on King of the Hill, all of the more, the 4 main characters are facets of my father. I was like, he kind of looks like Hank Hill and he was in the military like Dautrive. He's kind of crazy and conspiracy-minded like Dale. And he likes fast cars and half of what he says is unintelligible. So it was like Boomhauer.
Boomhauer. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, uh, is that, could we make like a new version of Enneagram or something? That's like the four personalities and for men. And it's like, you're either like, I'm 25% Hank. I'm 50% Dale.
Yeah. I'm probably too much Bill. Blase and gullible. Excuse me. Awesome. So yeah, I've just been watching a lot of Law Order, which is probably not worth mentioning cuz it's like, it's become a safety blanket or like, I need to get to work, but I need to eat breakfast. I'm gonna watch Law Order and eat breakfast.
Yeah.
And it's a good stop time. Like, all right, get off your ass and go work now. But I don't remember if I've mentioned a game called No Man's Sky on here before. It's like ADHD heaven. So it's this game that came out in 2016 where, oh, I don't even know like how it starts, but it involves cooking, breeding animals. Now it involves fighting animals on a board, like in a hologram thing, building ships, like pirating, building bases, exploring the universe or the galaxy, like all this stuff. It's, it's everything. So, hmm, Henry and I like can't stop playing it. I don't wanna point out we, we're almost at 300 hours in it for since the middle of February.
Like it's, it's 60% off right now.
Um, it's multiplatform. We can, Valve said it plays really nice on the Switch too.
That's what, mm-hmm. Okay. Well, yeah, you should, you should check it out.
It's awesome. You can play on the Switch, but you can do multiplayer, but like, He can ride on one of my ships and open the back door and shoot out of it, like standing there. And I can see him on the screen. It's really cool.
And is he playing from like an iPad or something? Or what's the other— I mean, I know it's on like all the main— or you just mean from— where do you play multiplayer?
Uh, each on our Switch. On the Switch 2, they added multiplayer.
You just can't do it on one, you're saying, like on one Switch?
Yeah. I don't— Yeah, I don't think so.
Or was I just not paying attention at all?
No. And you can cross-platform. Sometimes we'll play with a friend of mine who is on a Steam Deck, so we'll all be on there and there's like built-in voice chat. It's, it's crazy.
It's really cool. That's cool.
So, you know, if everybody needs a time suck, so if you're looking for one that apparently is on sale, definitely check it out. And I've had a book on my shelf for a couple years called The Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson. I have a shelf of books where I'm like, look, when I'm like, I'm gonna pick up one of those books and start it. So you always have something good to read. And then I found out they had just republished a new version of it last year because a lot has happened since 2002. And in reading it, like half of what they talk about has happened since 2020. So I don't know what the hell could be in the old one, but like, and it's Bill Bryson.
Yeah.
So it's really good, but he'll have a really entertaining chapter about like You know, the elements at the end, you're like, I gotta sit with that for a minute before I move on. This isn't a story. Like, this is cosmic shit.
Write books like that. And like, maybe, maybe you think Bill Bryson could be the patron saint of not having idiot—
Yeah. He, he wrote that book called At Home where he went through every room in his old house and talked about like, you know, sewage and cooking and home accidents.
Mm-hmm.
So good. And apparently there's one about the body. It's now on my to-get list.
Okay. So maybe it's, he could have it or not, but I'm just like, as somebody who writes like the history of everything, I'm like, yeah, no, like he's, he's got so much stuff.
Does not compute. He's such a good writer.
Yeah. Like in just like all the connections, like, like making all those connections and through lines and stuff. It's pretty amazing.
Yeah. I'm like, you could explain anything to anyone and like he actually gets it. Like he's insanely smart. Yeah. But he's getting up there. Which is sad. But, uh, so other than that, we've been, I've been reading a lot of bookbinding manuals and papers because I seem to do this seasonally, which is cool. Can, you know, learn new stuff. And, uh, we've been listening to A Perfect Circle over and over again because, um, my Henry got a guitar, so he wanted to explore some stuff. And, uh, Rose is named after the song from Rêve d'un Homme. Which is like a serious point of pride for her. She's like, I was named after that song. It's a really good song. Like, it is a really good song. Like really, really good song. I was like playing it on my acoustic bass. I'm like, this sounds like crap cuz it needs the fuzz. But like, here you go. So like they have, they have a new single out, so hopefully they'll have something new.
Cool.
Bigger. And also Air Abstract just came out with a new single that's called You, You, You. It's like a love song. It's really good and they have a really funny video because they sort of deadpan everything. So check that out if you find yourself on YouTube.
And Henry, uh, my Henry is learning guitar as well. He's like at the very beginning of like getting— I mean, I've tried obviously for, I don't know, his entire life. I've always made guitars available. I'll just say that. But he's like actually asking about it and I've This is my hot take or like unpopular opinion, or I don't know, what's the term for if something is like everybody says they hate this thing or they always make fun of like how popular this is. That's because it's actually awesome. But the song Freebird is perfect. It is so good. And I love that. I love that song. It's like the guitar solos are insane. He asks to listen to it in the car like all the time. He's like, so can I, you wanna try to learn that together? I was like, He started playing like 3 weeks ago. Like, I mean, I would love to, but he's— and I was like, you mean like he'll play like the chords? He could probably do that. He's like, no, like you told me the solo has 2 guitars in it. They're playing at the same time. I was like, I don't think I could play both of those solo parts. Like, so I think like we'll work up to it, you know?
But yeah, their brains are elastic at that age.
That's right. That's right. That's— I mean, I, I, I started playing cuz my brother played and he was like, I don't know. 17, 18 when I started learning, so I was like 10. Passed him up by like 13 because it's just— I was at the right age to just like— I wasn't distracted by anything else. So we should get our Henrys to start a band.
Yeah, Henry and Owen want to start a band. Owen plays keyboard, but the difference, Henry, is— and I think Owen listens to this podcast— you practice your guitar. Owen has a keyboard. But I mean, Owen does know how to play it, but doesn't practice much. And Rosie wants to learn bass, which if anyone has ever seen Rosie in person is kind of funny. 'Cause I'm like, well, a short scale bass for you is still gonna be like, like how, how? So I suggested mandolin, but like, you know, it's not as sexy as a bass. Yeah. You can't like play the drums through your mandolin like you can if you have a nice bass amp.
We should build her a 3/4 bass. I could build it.
My acoustic bass is an in-between scale. So I'm like, see what you can do with this. It's a 32. She's like, my arms aren't long enough.
Poor kid.
Yeah. You know, a P-bass, like, I don't think she'd be able to stand up with that thing on her shoulder. But Fender does make a short scale P-bass. That's a 30. I'm like, hmm, maybe.
Yeah. Yeah. There's a, there's a. Mini, mini version.
That's what they call it. They call it the mini key bass.
It's cute. Yeah. Yeah. We have a mini Strat. It's in the other room.
She doesn't want to learn guitar. She's like, I want to play bass like daddy.
Okay.
I still see Henry as a bass player. He's got that like, yeah, I'm going to hold the band together and get no glory for it thing.
I would say with, uh, all your 3 kids, then you could be like, all right, you all got an instrument and Rosie's actually going to get gigs. Yeah, fuck, I better learn some bass. Everybody needs a bass player. Everybody needs a bass player. Yeah. Yeah.
Yep. I miss those days of like playing in multiple bands. Mm-hmm. Old and busy.
Yeah.
So we thought we'd just pop a couple Fresh Points in before we sign off. So there's a juicy one there under your name, Tim.
Yeah.
If you wanna grab that one.
Absolutely. Yeah. I had totally forgotten about this, but we had texted about it. New Field Notes, which I've, I was just carrying one today. It's not in my pocket right now, but I'm using one of these right now. But in the, uh, these are in the style. This isn't, these aren't officially National Parks, right? These are just Explore America. So there's, uh, they're called the Explore America Monumental Memo Books. So it's, they all feature some kind of large monument in the country. So there's, what is it? The, uh, Golden Gate Bridge, there's the Redwood Forest, there's— what's this one?
Big Sur. There you go. Yeah, that was Shepherd's Ferry. But they're all different artists, but they all look like the same person did 'em, at least to my eye.
Which is, which is wild. Yeah, yeah. It's like kind of at a glance they look really similar and then kind of the closer you look, you see the different styles. But, uh, they're beautiful because I love those National Parks editions. Yeah. I still have several of those left that I still like still working through. So this is the kind of thing that I feel like is there, and it seems like they know this. That's like their bread and butter.
Yeah.
Like what's, what makes them their like sort of consistent money, cuz they just look so good. Like anybody, like I, you know, we could walk by 'em in a store and see 'em and be like, oh, those are cool, I want some. But also somebody who has no idea what they're, what they are is, could just be like, man, that art's cool. Like, oh, I've been there. You know, that kind of reaction.
Yeah. And they could have just done these for the summer and then added more, but they're not the summer release. So even more awesome is coming out.
So yeah, I really love the Series B ones. The one that has the Appalachian Trail. Yeah. Um, the trail, it's like the Triple Crown of hiking. Like that one's, that set's really awesome.
Yeah. My, uh, I have a buddy who we go hiking every, every week. So in the fall we might do a little part of the Appalachian Trail. So they pick up an extra pack of that. Nice. One day with the whole thing.
One day. That would be awesome. I have friends who've done it, several friends who've done it. I don't know how that works for humans to be like, we're gonna take off 8 months and go do this thing. But it's awesome. So cool.
Yeah. I was at the, um, Smithsonian one time and in the, what do they call it? Manuscript room, the rare book room or something. They had all of Earl Shaffer's stuff. He was the first thru-hiker. And like his boots, his journal, his copies of the maps, just like cool information about him was like really, really cool. It was a nice happy accident.
Man, that reminds me of, I mean, if you're into that, there's a book that I read a while ago. Oh, is it, is this it? Grandma Gatewood. I think this is the book. Or no, there's a book about her, but Grandma Gatewood, she was the first woman to solo hike the entire Appalachian Trail. But she like, I mean, if you look at like the materials she used, I mean, she took like nothing with her. I think at the beginning she was just like wearing her normal shoes. She just like started going, you know? But there's a great book about her that I need to, I'll look up the title and, and, and share it. But it was a friend that I was teaching with gave me the book and I read most of it and then meant to buy my own copy and finish it before I give it back.
Yeah. Shaefer.
Very cool story.
These like moccasin-toed boots that just had like multiple soles attached to the bottom of them as he wore them out. Then at the end, I'm like, how did you walk in that? It's like heavy. It's all smushed out the side.
That's cool. Yeah, it's called Grandma Gatewood's Walk. Cool. Is the name of the book. I'll put it in the show notes.
I like a good walking story.
Whoa, that's a big link. Yeah, so I have that. And then also I have another thing. Well, I'm just gonna leave it. So I came across, and I was just telling before we started recording, I was telling Johnny that I'm getting into electronics, like modifying and like working with kind of old school electronics. And I'm not saying I'm working on building supercomputers. It's actually kind of the opposite. Like I'm like tube amps and modifying guitar pedals by just like switching out little parts and learning like what. The different resistors and capacitors do. And I had just come across— Shane, to pull it back up— but I came across a video that reminded me of the fact that graphite is conductive. Yeah, which I hadn't thought about. And so I'll put this— I'll try to link in the show notes— but there's this amazing video that I watched where they use some of these electrical components, mainly like a switch, and then use some wiring, and they actually used the ferrule of the pencil and they put it on top of a AA battery. This is an experiment we're going to do this summer. And they use two wires. And so you wire the ferrule up and wrap it around the graphite, and then you wire the switch to both the bottom of the battery and back to the top of the graphite. So you have a positive and a negative symbol or signal, if I'm making sense. So it's like they use— there's a video, in the video they use this short little stubby pencil. To do this. And so basically getting both sides of the battery, positive and negative, wired up to the tip. And then what it's able to do, which I'll see if I can show you this when it happens, but it just like immediately heats up and you can actually like, just using the graphite and this battery, you can actually like, it's like a lighter. Uh, you can hold it up to a wick and it lights. And you know, this would cost like 75 cents to make, just be like a fun experiment. They didn't even solder, they just like tied up the wires and they used like hot glue to hold it to the bottom. But I was reminded of that. I just wanted to bring that up 'cause it's like, I'm gonna try that this summer. 'Cause Henry, Henry's all excited about working with electronics with me 'cause I've got an amplifier I'm gonna work on and some pedals. And yeah, he's into, he, he's into electronic pieces. He used to collect when he was little, like if something would break, like a remote control car, or something, he would like break open the controller and like keep the little PCB board, like the PC board that's inside that has like all the different components and stuff. Just, he liked looking at 'em. He would just kind of like sort of, he kept like a little box of 'em and he would just, he's like, I wanna make something out of this. I was like, okay, be careful, I guess. Just like stay away from the batteries. Um, I don't wanna burn the house down. But yeah, I was pretty excited about that. And it was pencil related and tinkering electronics related, which tinkering is my natural state. I'm going to be an excellent old man. I've known that since I was like, since I was 5, I knew I was going to dig retirement from the moment that I like learned about retirement. I was like, oh, that's, that's going to be good. When people talk about being bored in retirement. Yeah. When people talk about being bored in retirement, I'm like, are you kidding me? Actually yesterday, Lila said like, if you could, if you had a choice between, I don't even remember the choice, but it was like this or like have, oh, it was, would you rather have spaghetti for every meal every day for the rest of your life, but you don't have to work or have a job? And I was like, without even like a moment's hesitation, I was just like, spaghetti, come on, like give me the spaghetti, like I'll do it right now. She's like, you don't like working? I'm like, not exactly that. It's, I can always come up with something to do. I was like, I, I can keep, I got enough going on in this dome up here that I can keep myself busy and have a great time and, and feel fulfilled. I don't have to have the, the other side of it.
So, and you never have to pick what you're gonna have for dinner, which saves up a lot of time, which I also love.
So it's like, this is a win-win. It's like, I don't, I don't have to think. Yeah. I don't have to think about the unnecessary stuff. Give me one outfit and one meal. And just send me on my way for the rest of my life and I'd be happy.
I had a period of just wearing black t-shirts every day, and then I started wondering if people just thought I was like a dirtball.
Your Jerry Garcia phase.
I don't know.
That's what he did.
I just have a collection of like dorky shirts.
Yeah. He wore nothing but black t-shirts. Yeah. I'm pretty close to that. I wear pretty much the same. I, I found a pair of shorts I like and I bought like 9 pairs, and so it's like, just wear like Same shorts, same kind of t-shirts, couple hoodies. I don't, I gotta be able to get dressed in the dark and half asleep and not look insane. So, and it works.
Do that anyway. So did you see the, uh, yeah, what about you? Musgrave has all this America 250 stuff out.
I guess there's, we talked about a little bit. Do they have more stuff?
They have a, uh, collector's box. So it's a, I didn't put a link in here. There's a sliding pencil box. With a variety of their different American 250 pencils. And I didn't realize they were making the Sarahs in red, white, and blue. They're not all like, you know, the round, like a lot of print-on pencils. There's like, here's some regular ones in red, white, and blue. And those are cool pencils.
Those are cool. Yeah. Yeah.
I, uh, I not subtly asked if I can have that on Father's Day and I saw a box. So I think it's here.
Is it the Cedar Pointe one is what you're asking for?
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, that's pretty sweet.
I need that in my life.
That reminds me of a, another John Prine song. Where he, uh, where he talks about like what to do with his body when he dies. It's like, give my arms to, or it's like, give my arms to Venus and give my nose. He's just making all these jokes. And then he talks about his socks and he says, and put my socks in a cedar box. Just get 'em outta here. It's like a coffin, coffin for his socks. Everything else gets distributed.
And, um, I saw an official space pen, the AG7, the ones that like astronauts use. It's an American 250 thing too, but it's like quite expensive. But yeah, the Musgrave stuff's all, you know, reasonably priced and like, I don't know who's in charge of boxes there, but whenever they come up with something new, there's a new box. They're not just like, you know, throwing a sleeve on a generic pencil box. So like, that's all like, that's also awesome. I mean, it's—
I've been using, been using mine.
Awesome.
I had that exact— this is the, uh, New York Public Library one that I got on our trip. And look how like, I mean, it's so beat up already. And this was like 5 months ago, but my hands just like destroy brass. But it looks, looks awesome.
I had the same one one time. I polished a piece of it to see and it looked really weird. Didn't last long.
Yeah.
It's like in a day or two it was gone. It's in my hiking backpack. Django's a lamb with a lot of metal. It's pretty chewed up.
Looks awesome. That's awesome. Yeah.
That's—
I'm here for it.
Yeah. It's, it's, I mean, America 250 is kind of complicated. I feel like everybody's too distracted cuz it's almost here. That's why I'm not traveling to Boston this month cuz This is gonna be crazy up and down the East Coast, but, uh, I have, I keep forgetting about it. Like, uh, is Field Notes gonna touch that? I feel like don't, but also they'd probably do a good job.
So, what a shame though.
We'll see.
Yeah. I mean, it's like, I'm not Mr. Patriotism. I mean, I, I know what I'm grateful for and I know what I appreciate and I know what I would push back on and. Be frustrated by or whatever, but I think that's kind of like what it means to be from this country. It's like having, having your opinion, so you should, but it's like when things from the top down are so, it's just like a, you know, in Spaceballs where they, where, where he brings the giant vacuum to suck the oxygen out of the planet. I feel like we have one of those like above the country right now where it's like at the top, it's just kind of sucking all the air out of the room. Yeah. It's like, what is— I forget what his name was, that character's name was, the guy in charge, but Mel Brooks's character or one of his characters. But yeah, that's kind of what I feel like. So it's like, I kind of want to be excited about it, but also I, yeah, I kind of forget sometimes cuz it's just like, I'm so, it's like self-preservation mode or something.
Yeah. And even on the news, no one's talking about it. There's always some other crazy thing going on. The latest batch of storms, the latest war. The latest, oh, there's an, it's an America 250 version of the Mustang GTD, the one that won some award on the Autobahn. So my dad and I were drooling over it one day at lunch. I'm like, this is my thing. If I win the lottery, I'm getting two of these, one for me, one for you. Probably buy a third one cuz I'll probably blow the first one up cuz it's a supercar.
I just, I watched Ford versus Ferrari for the first time finally recently. Like so good. A month ago. It's so good. I watched that and Formula or F1 like back-to-back nights. I was like, It was an incredible night.
Yeah. Henry used to really be into cars back then.
Yeah. But we went to, if you ever, if you guys ever go to Gatlinburg, there is an exotic car museum, museum, I guess you call it. It's basically a group of dumb rich, like just not dumb. They're probably intelligent people. They are stupid levels of rich is what I'm trying to say, who own like a combined 20 of these like supercars and stuff. And they put like 12 at a time in there so you can go in and like look inside of 'em. And there's one you can sit in. Uh, it's pretty incredible. And they had a, an old, or like a, or a really nice Ford GT, whatever you call it.
GT40.
It's like white, white with the blue stripes down the middle. And I just stared at that for like 15 minutes in there. Like, this is the best part. And there's like, what about the Lamborghini? Screw the Lamborghini. This, this is awesome.
This is Gatlinburg. I do, I do like the aesthetic of American cars the best. My dad's getting old and he really likes Mustangs and he has one. I'm like, why don't you get like a new one or a vintage one before I'm driving you around all the time? So yeah, if he times it wrong, I might be driving around like a '69 Mustang in a couple years, which would be really funny. But I'm not very good at driving. Get really good really quick. I might be on the news.
Be on the news.
So, the seasonable thing is Pride. But, uh, so Craig and I have been talking about this and, you know, there's so much less Pride these days. And I can't, we can't figure out if, you know, rainbow washing is over or are people too afraid? Like, did no one ever mean it? Like, it's kind of depressing me a lot. So, uh, our cool pen brand Narwhal, they did one in 2023 and in '24 and '25 they made two different Pride pens, one like at a lower price point and one at a higher price point. And the lower price point from last year and the higher one from 2024 haven't sold out yet. So this year they just made one and like, it's, it's really pretty, but you know, can't help but notice they only made one this year. Which makes me sad. And I always do Pride books and every year there are fewer and fewer of 'em, but I, I like to do it cuz we donate a lot of money to the Trevor Project. But like, I'm, I'm lamenting at the world, like sad face, but we have En Vogue coming here this weekend, so there you go.
We'll see. My generous interpretation, I'm just wondering if it's like some of these companies are like, which is Sad that that would be the corner that they would cut, but like with all like the tariff supply chain stuff that like those kinds of editions are the ones that get like those sorts of like seasonal special editions are kind of shrinking back. I mean, obviously not with people like Field Notes. Yeah, that's a good point. But like it could be, especially with like companies that aren't making everything in-house, you know?
And yeah. And, um, I know that you mentioned that Narwhal, they've been making fewer special editions lately.
So I don't know, maybe it's just like, I like that explanation. Well, we'll take it tentatively, I guess, but it still stinks, you know? Yeah.
I mean, there are some people like Target that, well, no, Target's losing a lot of money, but you know, they're doing big America 250, no more pride stuff on like white people on their ads.
Like, okay.
But yeah, sad face. But where it's happening, people seem to be like doubling down. So I appreciate that. We have two Mennonite churches around here and one They put those, it's like a, like a vertical flag with a curve at the top. I have no idea what they're called, but they lined every pathway into the church. So it's like 3 or 4 pathways with those. So when you walk up the street, it's like, woo, it's really trippy.
It's awesome. Whoa.
That sounds awesome. Like somebody's doing that because nobody else is doing it. Cause they always do something, but not like that. Yeah. The Mennonite church. We have 2 Mennonite churches around here. One is. That one and one is more, from what I understand, traditional.
So, okay. We have one of the traditional ones somewhere. They have the best donut truck in the area, make these glazed donuts that are like the size of your face. And then they run a great like general store, but that's like most of the, that's like all I know about 'em around here.
Yeah. They have, there's one spices nearby here where they sell like Amish made furniture and they have a coffee shop and donut shop and their coffee's really good. Like, they're like, here's a cappuccino. It's like an actual cappuccino and it's $3. I'm like, I'm gonna get my still warm fritter with that. And it's not, you know, pewter. It's a human-sized fritter that you don't hate yourself for eating.
These donuts, you will hate yourself for sure. I mean, that's something people carrying a dozen in a box and it looks like they're like, have like a, you know, like the boxes that like wedding dresses come in. I mean, kind of looks like that.
You're like, yeah, they smell really good.
They do. Oh my gosh, you just watch them glaze them and there's like a whole like metal— one person's job is to like check the metal tub underneath it for the drip-off, like once it gets too full. I mean, it's like this deep, you know. They take it away, they put another one, they see what the back was or something. Yeah.
So I grew up in a neighborhood where we had like a handmade donut shop. So whenever I have donuts, unless they're like that, I'm like, this is crap. This is like hard as a rock and small and unimaginative. Spoiled. So should we button up for the week? And next week we'll be back with Andy and more pencil education. Yeah. Pencilcation.
Gonna— well, yeah, well, we're eagerly awaiting the return of Andy.
Hopefully with good stories and well-rested. Not too well-rested. That's not a dirty joke. I mean, just have fun. It's an adventure.
Just having fun here. We're just having fun. And, uh, yeah, I'm gonna go watch some, some World Cup soccer and use that to survive Florida. Be in Panama City for, for 5 days. Watching World Cup on my phone. It's, I don't even like to think about it, but I got a lot of these thin sweatshirts, like the t-shirt, like Under Armour sweatshirts to hopefully help me survive.
I've taken to wearing a sun hat and actually found that it keeps me cooler. And like, I'm old enough that I should keep the sun off my face. Yeah. I'll send you a link to the one I have. It's actually like good and it fits on my head.
So is it like the wicker one?
Like, oh, it's from—
no, because I have one of those that I like use when I mow. So I'm like that guy with like the big, like the beach hat or whatever. But okay. Yeah.
The last time I wore it, I was cutting my dad's grass. It worked really well. Excuse me, but I'll send you the link. They have a lot of good colors. They're not just tan.
Okay.
They don't have blue. They have like a lot of blues.
Yeah.
All right. Get excited.
I'm in. Old man talk right here. What kind of sun hat you using? Yeah.
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