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Hello and welcome to episode 180 of the erasable Podcast. I'm Johnny Gamber here with these two really cool dudes whom I met at a recent book club for middle aged nerds, Tim Wasem and andy Wellfleet.
Hey, GU3 wild and crazy guys.
I am in all of the clubs that involve middle aged nerds.
Yeah, but you're not middle aged yet and Andy's not either.
I'll be 40 next, next February, so I guess I'm like, almost middle aged.
Yeah, I'll be 37.
The. My head is like. My hair is a baby boomer.
That's true.
I feel like it all kind of balances out.
I think a boomer, you wouldn't have that lovely head of hair.
Tim's hair voted for Donald Trump.
Be squeaky.
Do you see there's an amazing article in. I think it was the Onion or Babylon B. I can't remember which, but it was like woke remakes of Disney movies. And it was like all these, like, changes they're making. And one of them was that for Encanto, they were changing it to we don't talk about Bruno because he voted for Trump. My favorite one was the new remake of Snow White that, like in the new Snow White, Snow White will be a black male and all of the dwarves will be like different genders and people of different races and different heights. Yeah, different heights. Yeah. So it's like. That actually sounds kind of awesome.
Yeah,
I know this is a joke, but, like, when's it come out?
Yeah.
That would make the scene where they track down the witch a lot more interesting. So we have been talking about our book club that we're going to do quarterly or thereabouts for a while. And we've mentioned the title of a book that we picked for our first book club, which is Palimpsest by Matthew Battles. And we have two, two, count them, two cool pieces of information. First, on our next episode, Caroline Weaver will be joining us to talk about running a book club and hopefully have some things we can avoid doing that would not go well. And we have one more cool piece of news that I hope Tim will be willing to share with our listeners.
Absolutely. In May, on our official book club discussion episode, which will be happening somewhere like maybe two thirds of the way through May, we will be joined by Mr. Matthew Battles, the author of Palimpsest.
Yay.
Yeah. Connected with him on Twitter and he seems like a really great guy and was really interested. And, and he is also, as he said in his message, his conversation with me with exclamation points, I love pencils. I am a pencil user.
We can talk about that too.
Oh.
So yes, that will definitely be part of the conversation. So he is a pencil guy too. So this is all things are turning up erasable.
You know, Amtrak is not that far. He said Harvard. That's six.
Yeah. Johnny, quiet. Do you want to record on, on location that.
Oh, that would be too cool. No Covid numbers going back up. Amtrak will probably not let me on. You got three kids. So why don't we jump into our usual segments before we get to do all this awesome stuff in the future and do our tools of the trade. Would you like to go first? Mr. Wellfully, yes.
Well, the thing that I have been consuming, that I have been thinking the most about is we're about a little over halfway through the season of Star Trek Picard Season 2. And it is just, it's just great. I, I don't think it's a spoiler because they talk about it in the, like, the season previews, but they go back to the year 2024 in this season and they have so many little references to Star Trek 4, the Voyage Home, where Kirk and Spock and crew goes to like 1980s San Francisco. And it's just, yeah, it's just really delightful and just like a good, like, treat for like longtime Star Trek fans. And they do a good job of just like, you know, engaging people with new stuff, too. So I've just really been enjoying Star Trek Picard, also reading Palimpsest. And I guess I won't talk too much about that because we're going to be talking about that a lot. And one other thing I watched over the weekend, which I would highly recommend is the latest episode of Saturday Night Live with host and musical guest. She's just a delight and she's so talented in basically everything she does. She's amazing. And what one thing I liked about it especially was. So, you know, they've often had guests be the musical host as well. But Lizzo was the first person in SNL history to introduce herself. So, you know, usually they get a cast member to like, say, like, ladies and gentlemen, Lizzo. And then they launch a musical guest. The first number she introed herself and then got up on stage while they
were like, ladies and gentlemen, me.
So somebody on Twitter mentioned that, like, if that's not the most Lizzo thing ever, I don't know what it is. So lots of good episodes. There's a really good TikTok spoof that they did. It's pretty good. Funny Easter Bunny sketch, but yeah, delightful episode of snl. And I am writing with. With a custom Musgrave pencil. I had a bunch made for a conference coming up. A Writing is designing pencil that we're going to give away to our workshop participants. I am. I'm going to send you, you guys both one.
Thank you.
Writing. It's a hot pink pencil with, like, gold imprints that say writing is designing and just a really nice bold font and a black ferrule and a black eraser. Oh, I ordered 500 of them. I have so many. It was pretty cheap. It was like $150 for 500, which I think is a pretty good price.
Yeah.
And I'm writing in my. Oh, yellow. What is it called? The spring.
Oh, Signs of Spring.
Signs of Spring. That's it. Writing in my Signs of Spring field notes. And that's it for me. How about you, Tim?
Yeah. I have been reading a book that I've. I've owned for, I think, like, three years and have been meaning to read. And finally you've gotten around to it. And it's one of those, like, full body joy experiences of reading where it's just like, this is the best. A Man Called Uva by Frederick Bachman. Have you guys read this or.
Oh, man. I always thought it was.
Oh, no.
Yeah. Okay. So Frederick Bachmann is a Swedish novelist. And this book, I actually forget when it came out, but it. It was about six years ago. Five. Six years ago, something like that. And so it is the story of a curmudgeon, like an old man who is just a. This curmudgeonly old man living in Sweden and he's living alone. And basically right at the beginning, you learn that his goal at the present is to take his own life because he's lonely. So it starts out with this kind of, like, sad tilt to it, Right. But in a way that only this author can do. It's like, in comical ways. It keeps kind of getting interrupted. And then in heartwarming ways, like, where he, like, is on the verge of it, and then he's such a good person that he kind of, like, talks himself. I don't. It's really hard to. To talk about, but it is funny. It's really heartfelt, like, things that I'm like, underlining saying, man, when I need to write, like, a note to my wife. I should quote this book when I say this because it's so sweet, you know, it's very like laugh out loud funny. Like I've laughed out loud reading this book more than any book in recent memory, I think. So I can't recommend it enough. Like I'm like three quarters of the way through it. But 10 out of 10, I mean it's just fantastic. I have another book of his that I had started I'm going to get back to after I finish this one. But it's called Anxious People and that novel is about a guy who robs a bank for a very specific amount of money. It's like $9,700 or something. And it doesn't go as planned. And he runs out, stumbles into an apartment showing and accidentally takes hostages. And then, and then the police get there and he's gone. And all the hostages act like he wasn't there at all. And so like they have to figure out like wait, why are all these people defending the guy who took them? Took them really? So I'm. I'm kind of, I'm just smitten with this writer. So. Really great. And there's a movie which is on Prime Video which I'm going to watch this week when I finish the book. And Tom Hanks is actually making the American remake of it and he's going to be playing uva.
He seems like he could do a like contenous guy really well.
Oh yeah.
With a heart of gold.
It's gonna be amazing. That's what this is. I mean it's like a hyper practical old curmudgeon. Yes. With a heart of gold and like, you know, a really rock solid moral compass. So I love that. Loving it so much. We were, we just started watching Upload, which is a show on. It's like an Amazon prime show. It's done by. I think his name is Michael Schur. The guy who did like Parks and Recreation and. Or no, sorry, it's Greg Daniels there. So Greg Daniels, the guy who did Parks and Recreation and in the Office and also was involved in the Good Place. And Upload is a show about. It's based in the future and when you're close to death you can opt to be uploaded where they have this new technology where they can basically extract your memories and your consciousness and upload you to an afterlife of your choosing.
They're like, like it's. It's basically like capitalism. Right? Like you have. You can only access something if you like prepay or pay an app or something.
You're Basically living in the App Store on Apple, like, where, like, you walk up to the minibar and then there's like, in app purchases where it's like, you can have this for 4.99, you can have this. So it's like they're figuring out a way to make you pay money after you die, basically. But it is funny. And also it's got, like, kind of a mystery element to it that's really intriguing. I don't know how many episodes there are. Actually, I'm only two. We're two episodes into it, but it's worth watching. I mean, anybody involved in those shows is gonna, is. Is not gonna put out something subpar. So. So that's been fun. And also reading wise, I've been. I know, like, they're kind of all the rage right now, but substack email listings. I have subscribed to several. But, like, my email inbox is the most disorganized place on the planet. I'm just whispering that to you guys because don't tell anybody.
Nobody's listening.
But I'm real. I'm really bad at email. Like, in, like, keeping my email inbox, like, tidy and all that. Like, I struggle to with. Especially with the ones where I get all the newsletters and stuff too. But I discovered a couple weeks ago that there's a substack reader where it like, just like, lists all of your substacks on the side. And I was like, oh, that's much better. But I have been kind catching up on those. And I subscribe to like six or seven, but the three that I'm going to talk about are aside from me and you two, my favorite trio of fellas on the planet who are now like, best friends. And it makes my heart very happy to hear this. Nick Offerman of Ron Swanson fame, Jeff Tweedy of Wilco fame, and George Saunders of George Saunders fame. What are all best friends?
I feel like that was just for you.
Oh, I know, I know. Really? And they, like, they have like a text thread and like, every time I hear any of them interviewed anywhere else, they're always like, oh, when I was texting Jeff and Nick, I'm like, oh, my God, I want to win that text. So. But they all have substacks and they're all awesome. Jeff Tweedy has one called Starship Casual, in which he posts about songwriting and he posts, like, works in progress, like iPhone recordings of song ideas and things. You get to really, like, see how the sausage is made, to use that phrase for the second time in an episode, which is really cool. And George Saunders has one called Story Club in which he just like that book I talked about Swimming upon in the Rain. He breaks down a short story over the course of like two months where he like does this like slow breakdown of a story and also writes about his own like writing process, which. Stay tuned, I'll talk about that again later. And Nick Offerman just started his. And his is called Donkey Thoughts, which
is a really good comic.
Which is. Yeah.
Which is like really perfect. So anyways, I've been catching up on those. I also subscribe to Patti Smith's which is really good. And yeah, so I've been catching up with my substack and the last thing music is. I've talked about them before in the podcast, but I've been listening to Bill Frizzell his album Valentine by Bill Frizzell, which is his like trio jazz album, kind of like Americana jazz album. But I have in the last week or so have just kind of come to the conclusion that it is a modern day classic. So I really love it. And I am writing with my studio Delgar pencil.
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
The round pencils we got from studio. Is it? Yeah. So they, they sent these. They are really handsome. I'm gonna guess they're made by a general pencil company.
I was thinking it was. Yeah.
It was not Akita Boshi and we never said that.
Pay no attention to the factory behind. Yeah.
But yes, clearly made by Musgrave is a round pencil, crazy cream colored with a beautiful illustration of a tiger and a metal cap on it. That metal cap is great and it's, it is nice. It's very nice. And I'm using it in my maramon spiral notebook and it is so super smooth and lovely. So I love this pencil. Love them. So was very thankful to get to try it out. So that's me. How about you, Johnny?
Mine are much less exciting. I read Palimpsest which was so good. Moving on. I'm reading. I mean, I guess reading is the right word. I'm working my way through a book by Kathy Abbott called Book a Step by Step Guide. That's one of those like bibles book binding. You have to have this book even if you don't agree with all of our approaches kind of books. And it's like, it's beautiful. So it's nice. Get a book about book binding that is itself a very nice book. But there's a lot of useful information in here, like a good recipe for wheat Flour pastes, which is simple but hard to get right, as I've discovered the hard way. And making a lot of messes in my kitchen. I've been watching Vera every night over spring break because we've all been sick. And, you know, I'm sleeping from three to like nine, which is not usual for me. And after that I watch a show called Before We Die on pbs and they leave all the F words in on the PBS app, which they never, ever do.
Scandalous.
Yeah, it's like, it's gritty. It was a remake of a Swedish crime drama. And I don't know if you've seen Wallander, but that's a remake of a Swedish show. And like, so dark. Like my father, who likes dark shows. Like, I can't watch that. Oh, I want to watch it. So it's a short series. I think season two is coming out soon, but it's definitely worth checking out. And I'm reading Kathy Abbott's book on bookbinding, which is called Book Binding A Step by Step Guide. And it's.
Where do they come up with these titles?
Yeah, it's on the list of like the book binding Bibles. Like, you need to have a copy of this book or you can't say you bind books, but it's full of, you know, a lot of really good information, very good photographic diagrams. Sometimes, you know, there's like a photo, a very small chart, and then moving on to the next binding. And like, oh, you didn't want me to learn how to do this. You just wanted me to show that you could do it. So this is really good. They have good recipes for wheat paste and information on how to replace bookbinding tools. Because a lot of them are. It's not just expensive, impossible to get. Like you can get a workmate from Black and Decker to A Plus to replace a laying press. And they currently go for like 35 bucks from Amazon. So that's worth the price of the book right there. And my writing with stuff is a little less boring. I have this really cool vintage French, like, school pen from a brand called Fly Pen. It is like a really cool little fountain pen that takes international cartridges. And I have that and a crumpled up piece of French rolled filler paper from about the same time period, which sounds like I'm trolling you, but this is totally here and it's a freaking lovely combo. So why don't we jump into our fresh points before my Internet goes out again? Speaking of sausage getting made, number three go first, Andy.
Sure. Well, this one is a little bit complicated and this is a complete surprise to Johnny. But you know, if you've listened to the show for a while now, you know that our kind of unofficial poet laureate of Erasable is Jay Newton, who is just a fantastic rhymer, has written things for Plumbago, is like very good with, with words, writes the best limericks. And after, I think it was two episodes ago. Johnny, do you remember talking about Old Gamber Road?
Oh yeah.
I don't remember what prompted it, but Jay wrote me an email. It was basically, he said that he had listened to Old Gamber Road, he was inspired to write about it. So he goes, I have for you a villanelle. It's a. It's written in a neo gothic style with Poe references and I personally guarantee it's the only villanelle with the phrase wheat paper. It's a reimagining of the legend of bluesman Robert Johnson selling his soul to be the best blues player out there. Here it's a guy doing the same in order to be the best bass player. It's pretentiously ridiculous, tongue in cheek, funny to our kind of people and I think you'll appreciate the craft. Tim would like the music part and it's about Johnny so he's sure to like it. So I'm going to read you this poem called Old Gamba Road by Jay Newton and I apologize if I don't get the. Like you know, the rhythm right. A tale as dark as as ever has been told. And woe to the fool who visits the place from whence the legend of Old Gamba Road. An amateur musician with his load of four stringed instruments and plectrum case. As dark as tale, A tale as dark as ever has been told. He's heard it to be the best. There was a code, Infernal baselines linked with perfect pace. Beware the legend of Old Gambar Road. He paused a final moment, Then behold a raven colored book bound with wheat paste. A tale as dark as ever has been told. Signing in pen, inked with vermilion bold and montillado dripped from his face. Another victim of Old Gambar Road. His tail heart betrayed his weary face While sizzling blood dripped from his cursed base. A tale as dark as ever has been told down at the crossroads of Old Gamber Road. So that is. That's from our friend Jay Newton.
Bravo, Jay.
I don't want to jump the gun on one of my fresh points, but I hope that Jay will let me put that in the Poetry issue of the Pinpos. And also, like, I need a hug now.
I bet he would. And then also I'll make sure. Yeah, I'll make sure you guys talk about that. But, yeah, thank you, Jay, for, yeah, just being awesome and lending your poetry to us again.
Yeah, that's great.
Also, want to mention something I did? Not this. Sorry. Go ahead.
Could we name him the erasable poet laureate officially?
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah.
Okay.
All in favor?
I. Also wanted to mention something I did. Not this past weekend, but the weekend before. I went to the Codex Book Fair in San Francisco. It's actually in Richmond, but it is a, like, art book exhibition that is sponsored by this organization that is, like, celebrates, like, the printing press and bookmaking. It's so cool. Johnny, you would have loved it. It has 2, 200 some exhibitors from, like, all over the world. There were people from Egypt. There were all sorts of people from Germany just, like, exhibiting. It was mostly. It was mostly either books featuring art or books that were themselves art. So something that is, like, very small batch and just really well put together. There were some zines. There weren't a lot of zines. I went because I saw that my new friend Andrew Mecham was going to be there. Who put together those? The Pencil Pusher Project and his nonprofit printing press organization presented. And he had some zines there. So it was so cool and super overwhelming. There were 200 vendors, and it was. There were some books there that went like, there's one that was like, $18,000. Like, there's no way. It was fun to look at. You couldn't even touch it because, like, you could ask to look through it, and they would put on gloves and, like, hold it open for you.
Whoa.
I want to know what was in this book now.
It was. I. I think it was just, like a narrative about. About art. It was like that the con. Honestly, the contents of many of them just weren't all that interesting. There's one that was amazing. They took that Nabokov book, Lolita, and they, like, an old copy, and they removed the COVID and they completely redesigned a cover and just, like, showed the process. And it was amazing how they did it. Like, I don't really care about that book, but I loved, like, it was basically just a celebration of, like, the book binding process. And they talk a lot about it, and they had some, like, some pictures of making it. It was really cool. But I got each of you guys a little something that I'll I'll mail out here soon.
Oh, thank you.
Last thing I'll mention is I don't know about you guys, but I have been getting a lot of Instagram ads for this new stationary company called Endless. And this is different than Endless Pens and it is. Oh, they have like some notebooks, they have some little folios and they have a notebook that's very moleskine like called the recorder and it is just like a leatherette cover. It's made with tomoe river paper. You can get it in blank or lined or dot grid. Has two bookmarks. It has an elastic band. It has an envelope in the back. Just looked really cool so I thought I'd pick one up. And I have been getting just so many ads for it, so I figured it was, you know, I better feed the machine. So have not actually used it beyond just like testing it out yet. But I will say it looks like it's really good quality. It is as kind of solid as a Leuchtt term. I It's tomoe river paper in it, which is.
I thought they weren't making.
Right.
Yeah, that was what I was gonna say. Yeah. I wonder if it's like. And it also like it feels different. Like it's a thicker paper than.
That's what I was gonna ask you. Was it their 68 gram one?
I think it's their 68.
Maybe they're still making that stuff is nice.
But I mean I've only ever used like the thinner tomoe. I don't know what the weight is, but this is really nice. It works well with pencil, works really well with fountain pen. I mean that's what tomoe's pretty famous for, right? Is it can just like slurp up the thirstiest fountain pen ink which now that I have that like really just like just gloppy orange ink loaded into my lenger. True writer. I'm going to try it out in there and see how it does O
they come in a bag. Like a little drawstring bag.
Yeah.
That's cool. Yeah, that goes all my money. Thanks, dude.
So that's it? That's it for me. How about you, Jim?
Well, first thing I'll bring up and I this, I guess this is the most like this connected to something I was talking about earlier is I was gonna talk about George Saunders. So I was reading George Saunders substack which is called Story Club, which is really great. You should all subscribe to it. There's the free version especially. He posts a ton which like I'm like, how do you get anything done? Like, how do you publish books and do this much? On Substack, it's amaz. But on one of his recent posts, he posted a picture of his desk. And the thing to notice that made me very excited was, first of all, that he had a picture of his manuscript in manuscript form for his new book, which is coming out October, which is called Liberation Day, which is his new short story collection, which is, you know, what, he's like, most well known for his amazing short stories. So I'm pumped about that. But next to it is two Blackwing 602 pencils that are both in the Steinbeck stage and are sharpened to the exact same.
Oh, wow.
Length.
That's so satisfying.
And it is incredibly satisfying. And I am just. I was kind of like delaying gratification. I didn't want to post this too early, so I'm going to show you guys. So I just. I'm posting a picture of it in our document so you can see. But he's got two black wings.
Oh, yeah, look at that.
Sharpened to the exact same length. And as I can't help but do the thing where I think, okay, well, Wilco teamed up with Field notes and Field notes is pretty closely connected to the Blackwing world. And I'm pretty sure that Jeff Tweedy had black wings. And so I like to think that he got those black wings. That's the nerdy wormhole of thoughts that I end up.
Andy listens to our podcast and knows about the Steinbeck stage. Hey, George. George Saunders. If you're listening to the podcast, you can be like our author, laureate of.
Of the show, like, forever.
Am I seeing things or is that a really old laptop?
Yeah, which I also super respect that he's just like, I need a laptop that just writes stuff. Can't do anything else. Yeah. Pretty awesome pencil sharpener in the background. One of us, one of us, One of us. So that made me very excited. I don't know, I just like spotting pencils in the wild. And when you're not expecting it and you notice it in a place where he probably has 50,000 people subscribing to his. His sub stack. And I happen to notice his pencil habits. And so that made me very glad because George Saunders is
probably.
I don't know if there's a writer on the planet I respect more than George Saunders. That made me very happy. Next thing is, I was going to talk about TikTok.
What's that?
It's on Tik Tok. It's an app that the youths are using Johnny to. Yeah, the youths are communicating via TikTok. But there is a artist on TikTok, his name is Dylan Eakin that everyone should check out. And I bring him up because he is a graphite artist. Graphite and charcoal. He does. But I have just been for the last few months. I've just been totally blown away by his artwork that he does. He does realistic portraits that he spends, I mean, upwards of like 50 hours on these drawings. And they are something that I can't describe in words just as far as how skillful and how amazing his work is. So I encourage anybody. If you're not following him, it's Dylan. D Y L A N E A K I N. I think his Tick tock is Dylan Eakin, but you should check him out and see his work. It's really breathtaking. Check that out. I hope we can have him on someday and talk to him about his pencil art. We've. We've exchanged a couple emails, which was exciting. And he was just like, stay tuned, let's talk later. Because he's just in the middle of a bunch of projects, which I respect. But yeah, really amazing stuff. I mean, not just a portrait of somebody, but like portraits of someone in the rain that he's doing in pencil. Right. Where it's like super realism. It's amazing stuff. We. We're always looking to have more artists on and I would really.
Maybe we could do a Tik tok.
Live with love, dear. Oh, we need. We need an erasable tik tok.
That's true. Can you get Charlie to make us one?
I have not given her a phone yet, so.
So Henry, the younger one.
I think Rosie should work on it.
I think Henry.
Probably joint effort.
Yes.
They could be TikTok superstars together.
Henry could probably hack my phone. You think I'm joking. All right.
And the last thing I had, just a minor thing, but I stumbled across it and I thought it was interesting and it sort of sparked some thoughts, was an article in Bonbo. They did an article. It was today. Yeah, it was today. I figured. I saw it today and I thought it probably would have been older, but it was about over engineered mechanical pencils, which I think if there was a. If there was a phrase that was the opposite of what we stand for, it would be not just mechanical pencils but over engineered mechanical pencils. But then it made me think about the fact that over engineered mechanical pencils are better than under engineered mechanical pencils. So then. So there's this like weird, you know, like, science thing that happens where there's analog pencils and there's over engineered pencils which seem to be better than the middle, which is the. That is mechanical pencils. So that was just kind of a fascinating little mental thought that I wanted to share because they're talking about things like the. What is the. The. The famous uniball. The Kuroga. Right. Like these ones that prevent you from ever having to like break lead or like having to like rotate your pencil. And so there's a bunch of these now.
I like how he's just like roasting the Jetpens person who made that video.
Never break lead again.
Yeah.
So anyways, I just saw that. I saw that and it just like made me think and like I just. I. I like that idea that there is like there's a no man's land in the middle between over engineered mechanical pencils and the analog pencils. And so everything in the middle is crap. But the over engineered ones are apparently okay. Which I still don't want to use them because they're still. So that's all I got. So over engineered mechanical pencils. A dude on TikTok you should follow. And George Saunders uses black.
What do you think? A George Saunders TikTok would be very happy.
Oh, don't analog. It would be him. He's like one of the funniest dudes on the planet. Like, it's like when you hear him talk, he's just like so quick, so funny. And you know who else is friends with George Saunders? Jason is, of course. So like I'm screwed. Like I'm just like. It's like I just experiencing. It's like I'm just gonna have a life full of FOMO for the. For.
Don't worry, Tim. We're glad to be your. Your backups.
Yeah. This is like done. It just makes me like. Yeah. Just forever missing out. But it's probably better. The imagined version of it is probably better than the reality of it.
Sure.
They're probably just like texting about their tax.
You're still young. You're not even 35 yet. Like by no stretch of your imagination are you middle aged.
My hair is elderly over the hill.
So Tim's hair doesn't know what Tick Tock is.
You're aging from the top down. And it seems to.
Who's a Tick Tock? That's what my hair just said. All right. That's me.
I just have a couple in the. I mentioned this in the last two zines but I forgot to mention it on the podcast. Rosie, my kindergartner. They're learning about the seven continents and I think sort of, you know, the kindergartner's version of geography. So I checked with her teacher for permission to share their address because they would love it if people would send postcards to the. With just like, you know, a fact or two about where you're sending it from. So I don't want to read that out. So if you drop us an email or leave a comment here, I'll get the address to you. I mean, I don't know why you wouldn't read my zines. Because it's in there. So, you know, you probably already know about this.
And everybody here reads Johnny's zines, right?
Not according to my Etsy sales.
Johnny has a zine.
You wound me, Tim. What?
No, it's a joke. Because you get 7:2 these days. I know, I'm just. But your zines are perfect.
Perfect. But thank you. So for April, we're going to do a poetry issue of PEN Post, and I'm sort of shooting myself in the foot because I already don't know how the hell I'm gonna print this, but lots of folks have sent some cool stuff in. So, like, we've already passed two deadlines. But, like, you know, if you send it in by the end of the week, we'll look at it. Because I'm behind because I was sick all last week, so.
Yeah.
Or, you know, obviously preference for poetry about pens or stationery. But if it's just some, like, bonkers poem about gorilla Glue, like, that's probably awesome too. Yeah. My only other fresh point is speaking of poets, you can pre order Kiki Petrosino, my sister in law. Yay. Her upcoming memoir that comes out on August 9th. I think it's called Bright from Sarah Band Books. And earlier today, if Frankie and I were talking, I was like, how do I explain bright? Like as bright a complexion or as bright a racial identity? So she said, you know, in the shameful period of our country where there was slavery and runaway slaves, you would describe somebody as bright. Like, they're very light skinned, this is what they look like. Like, I want my property back. And informed me that she would be considered bright. So the COVID is beautiful and everything that Kiki writes is beautiful. So it'll be super awesome, I'm sure. And that's all I got for fresh points. And I think that's all we got for our episode, aside from saying good night and thanking Our Patreon Mofos.
Yeah.
Oh, man, it gives that one more
time now it's fine.
Okay, so we are the Erasable Podcast. Oh, that's not the right order. I'm sorry. Ignore me. So can you guys tell folks where to find you on the Internet? You want to go first, Andy?
Sure. I'm@andy WTF? Or woodclinch.com or on Twitter or Facebook. No, the other one. Instagram as Awuffley Tim.
How about you, Tim?
You can follow me on Twitter imwassum and I'm on Instagram TimothyWassum.
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