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March 30, 2022
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I am Also Pro Tree
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Tim 0:00

Get. Get yourself some string, some wax. You got a notebook going.

Andy 0:13

Hello, and welcome to episode 179 of the erasable Podcast. I'm Andy Welfle, and joining me are my two favorite springs of youth. I don't say awesome Splendor. So Splendor. Tim Wassem and Johnny Gamber. Hey, guys.

Johnny 0:30

Hey.

Andy 0:31

Hey. I'm over here.

Johnny 0:33

Bouncing spring.

Andy 0:34

Yeah, it's officially spring in the Northern hemisphere. We have some fun spring releases to discuss in all of their copper and yellow flower glory. And before we do that, let's. Well, first, I wanted to say I hope you all enjoyed. We really enjoyed making the April Fool's Day episode that we released a couple days ago.

Johnny 0:52

Man, that was crazy.

Andy 0:54

Yeah. So much fun. A lot of work went into it.

Tim 0:57

More goes into it every year, it seems like.

Andy 0:58

And then. Yeah, it just keeps getting more elaborate. Yeah. And we've been more elaborate. More elaborate. I know.

Tim 1:05

And the guest we'd been in contact with for, what was it, like, six, seven months? We've been, like, talking to them about that.

Andy 1:09

I never thought he would agree to be on the show, but.

Tim 1:11

Yeah, I know, it was incredible.

Johnny 1:13

I guess it's a downtime for him.

Tim 1:14

Very happy. That's probably true.

Johnny 1:16

Yeah. I mean, I feel like I have an intellectual hangover from all of the good chats.

Andy 1:21

Oh, yeah, for sure. So good.

Tim 1:22

And who knew he loved pencils that much? I mean, that was.

Andy 1:24

Yeah, yeah.

Tim 1:25

We didn't even know one of us. Closet pencil nerd.

Johnny 1:28

I don't think. I think that we converted him.

Tim 1:31

We converted him. Or he did his research beforehand.

Johnny 1:34

Yeah, I like that idea better.

Andy 1:36

So hope you all enjoyed it. We decided we liked it so much to put it out a couple days, you know, before April 1st. And meanwhile, happy International Pencil Day, which is probably. Probably. Yeah. Ish. Like, when we're releasing this, we. As you know, we. We adhere to a very strict schedule, so.

Johnny 1:56

So. So Pencil Day is named after when Hyman Lippman got his patent for putting an eraser in a pencil. And I just found out when I was looking something up about him today that that picture that goes around the Internet of him is not him. Oh, it's just some guy. Nobody knows what he looks like or nobody on the Internet notice what he looks like.

Andy 2:14

Did anybody check his face?

Johnny 2:15

So interesting. He hasn't posted on it in a while. Like 120 years or something.

Andy 2:24

He probably still is using MySpace.

Johnny 2:26

I think he got off Facebook, but forgot to disable his account. Yeah, you can forgive him. He's an old guy.

Andy 2:32

Yeah.

Tim 2:33

It takes him a while to catch on to that kind of stuff.

Andy 2:35

Yeah. So let's jump into tools of the trade. Timothy Wasame, would you like to. Would you like to go first?

Tim 2:42

Yeah, man. So I just read a book that's been on my radar for a good long while and I've avoided it for many reasons. Some very good reasons, I think, based on the person who wrote it. But I read Post Office by Charles Bukowski and. Have you guys either. Either of you read any Bukowski?

Johnny 3:02

Yes, but not that one.

Andy 3:04

Yeah, same.

Tim 3:06

Yeah. So sort of a problematic dude. Yeah, I mean, he is. And so the. The reason I even ended up on this was I think in the last episode I talked about those good poems collections from Garrison Keiller I think I talked about at some point, but the Writer's Almanac collections. And I came across a Bukowski poem and I was like, wow, I didn't know he was a poet. And this poem is kind of great. Like, I really loved it and ended up kind of going down a rabbit hole by watching on YouTube, it was free on YouTube, this documentary called Born into this about him that came out in like the early 2000s or something like that. And it was just a wild ride. But I didn't realize that he was at prolific a poet as he was. But I mean, when I. If you're not familiar with Charles Bukowski, he was this kind of like renegade writer. I think he started publishing when he was like in his 40s. He was lewd. Talked about sex a lot, talked about drinking a ton because he drank like incredible amounts. And it's. That's. It's basically like everything you read of his mentions alcohol or circles around alcohol. And. Yeah, I don't know, I just kind of fell into a wormhole on something that I didn't know that I or I had been basically avoiding because he had just seemed like such a. I don't know, just kind of a trashy writer for so long, but. But gained a sort of weird appreciation for it to a certain extent. And definitely his poetry. His poetry. And one thing that as a writer and somebody who likes to write poetry and likes to write stories, he's really interesting to read. Not for his subject matter, but the way that he tells stories and the way that he writes poems. So, you know, like, he's very direct, kind of like, I don't have time for metaphors kind of thing. And that's. Yeah, that was really interesting. So I read Post Office, which was his first novel that he Wrote in, like, three weeks. And it was about his time. He worked in the post office for 14 years as a clerk before he published his first novel. He had published some poetry, I think a little bit. But yeah, it's a wild book and I think I would actually recommend it. I mean, it's. I mean, go into it knowing what you're getting into. I mean, the nothing is like, super graphic, but it's just like kind of always talking about sex and drinking, even while he's working. So it was interesting. I'm glad I read it. I don't think I'm really interested in diving into a bunch of his other novels, but his poetry is definitely sticking for me. There's some really. I also. Jane and I watched Free Guy with Ryan Reynolds. Have either of you watched that? It was better than I thought it was going to be.

Andy 5:41

I feel that way about every Ryan Reynolds movie. Yeah. Yeah.

Tim 5:45

It was very low expectations, but something about watching a movie with Ryan Reynolds seemed, like, delightful. Don't like. Yeah, let's give it a shot. And it was so funny. There's so many, like, Easter eggs in the background. So many, like, video game references that were even funny to me as somebody who, like, barely plays video games anymore, but just grew up with them. And his character is so that movie. The movie is basically the Lego Movie.

Andy 6:09

Live action Lego Movie.

Tim 6:12

Yeah. Because he plays this. What's the nmc or. What's the. The. Or what's the acronym for a side character in a video game? Yeah, npc.

Andy 6:25

Yeah.

Tim 6:26

So he plays one of those. And every day he wakes up and does the exact same thing. It's literally like the same scene from Lego Movie where the. Where Chris Pratt's Lego guy gets up and does the same thing every single morning, goes off to work and does the same thing and whatever. And he kind of has the same personality as him, too. But it was good. I had it. We had. We had a good time watching it. And I would rec. I would recommend it.

Andy 6:45

Hmm.

Tim 6:45

It's got. Yeah, it's got a little more. More of an interesting plot than I assumed it would because it basically gets into, like, AI technology in video games or not. Yeah, AI technology in video games. It kind of sneaks in and his character kind of becomes self aware. And nobody who runs the game can figure out how he's, like, learning things because nobody's controlling him.

Andy 7:08

A little bit like the Matrix.

Tim 7:09

A little bit. Lego Movie meets the Matrix meets anything with Will Ferrell in it. Because he also. The character he plays, his character in the movie is like him pretending to be Will Ferrell. I don't know how to explain that, but just watch it and you'll know you'll get it immediately. The way he talks and the way he like phrases things, it's like he was trying to be Will Ferrell. And last thing, as I've been listening to, it's a new discovery for me. But Drew Holcomb in the Neighbors. It's like an Americana group out of Nashville that I had never heard before. Popped a station and really have been enjoying it and actually bought it. Ended up buying one of his records on vinyl because it was one that my. My kids enjoyed listening to. And usually when I'm buying something on vinyl, I want it to be something that I can throw on anytime. And this one fits the bill.

Andy 7:55

Okay.

Tim 7:56

The album's called Medicine, the one that I got, which is actually from 2015, so it's not his newest one, but. And I am writing with a Musgrave green belt and I am using a Moleskine navy blue hardback that I've been kind of jumping in and out of for a long time. So that is me.

Andy 8:15

Nice.

Tim 8:16

How about you, Johnny?

Andy 8:17

Awesome.

Johnny 8:17

So mine are very boring. I've been reading our book club book, which is really good. I really like it. I tracked down a hardback version and it's one of those, like, I don't know. Have you ever read a hardback book where you're just like, this feels so good.

Tim 8:30

I want it. Yeah, this one's nice.

Johnny 8:32

Just gonna hang on to it. I have carried it around a little bit when I wasn't gonna read it because why not? And, yeah, I'm almost done. So I'm gonna order his library book. His book called Library and Unquiet or Libraries and Unquiet History, which sounds pretty awesome. The book is a lot more. What's the word? Not like philosophical, not necessarily academic. It's a lot less of a story than I thought it was going to be. In a good way. It's super cool. I'm learning a lot of stuff I did not know. And.

Andy 9:02

Yeah.

Johnny 9:03

And my other activity besides working is watching an episode of Vera Every Night, which is a British crime drama on Britbox. But it's very. It's very peaceful for, you know, something where someone was brutally murdered in Northumberland.

Andy 9:19

Yeah.

Johnny 9:19

And I'm writing with a really cool pencil because it says number zero, the Statler Norris number zero.

Andy 9:26

What. What is the number? 02B.

Johnny 9:29

Okay, so this is the one that has the.

Tim 9:31

So confusing in Any other, any other

Johnny 9:35

environment, you'd be like, okay, that's the smart ass answer. Like here.

Andy 9:41

Yeah.

Johnny 9:41

2B. Oh, okay. But yeah, it's, you know, it looks like the hb, but this one has an orange cap, which is why I grabbed it because I thought it was the red one. It sounds great, but it writes really nicely. It's a good pencil. And I'm writing in a really cool book that my pen pal and friend Mark Christopher Krat, who is Graphite diaries on Instagram, sent me from. I forgot what he said. The place is called. They make handmade paper out of. One of the main ingredients is blue jeans. So the paper is blue and it doesn't have a grain. So it's our Grain Direction. It's really cool. It really. It enjoys some blue fountain pen ink and pencils.

Andy 10:19

So, yeah, by the way, Grain Direction is my new country punk cover band.

Johnny 10:26

Your album is Long Grain. Yeah. I thought that your first thing was going to be about Guns N Roses, so you're gonna have to explain this. Those are all the ones that I have.

Andy 10:39

Okay. Yeah. So my first thing was a. So last week I was just with, you know, with like, stuff going on in Ukraine and Russia and people talking about, like, just throwing around, you know, nuclear. The possibility of nuclear war around. I was like, you know, this is all just freaking me out and I just got Evo destruction stuck in my head. You know that song by, oh, what's his name? Bear maguire from the 60s? Like that war song?

Johnny 11:06

Yeah.

Tim 11:07

I went to a kid who just picked. Picked that for a class thing, like out of nowhere, and I had never heard of it before.

Andy 11:14

Yeah, yeah, it used to be on, you know, the oldies station all the time that I would listen to. And it was, it's great. It's a, it's like a war protest song. And it's also just a little bit just like, oh, everything's falling apart. Try to tell me over and over again, my friend, that we're not. That you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction is the. The way that it goes. And I went to Spotify and I listened to it and then I just like noticed that there's a bunch of covers. And so what did I do? I listened to every single one of them and then I made a playlist of my favorites and I, I was just like tweeting about it. And so I, I put the playlist in the show notes if anybody wants to listen to it. But there's some, there's some good Ones in here. There's, like, a bunch of really fast, like, punk ones that are good. There. There's a. There's a playlist I'm gonna have to typewriter bell myself. There's a song by DOA version of it, a cover of it on an album called Up Donald just as a picture of Donald Trump just yelling. There's. I think I really like the. There's. The Turtles did a cover of it that was a little bit closer to the. To the original. That was really good. There's one that's on here that was from Paul Revere and the Raiders, which I, like, feel like I've heard before, but I just didn't really know much about them. And it's like this really weird, glitzy, like, Vegasy version, which is just, like, so weird to listen to if you think about, like, kind of the lyrics and the way that it goes. So put together a really interesting playlist with a bunch of different covers and including one where Barry Maguire redid it for 2012. And there's, like, stuff about, like. It's about, like, climate change and, like, looking at your phone. Just a bunch of, like, old. So, yeah. So if you would just want to listen to the same song just with many people. Do. Many different people doing it. Go check out that playlist.

Tim 13:03

I have a very important question for you.

Andy 13:05

Yes.

Tim 13:06

What oldies station did you listen to?

Andy 13:09

It was a.

Tim 13:10

In Fort Wayne.

Andy 13:11

It was called Oldies 101.7.

Tim 13:14

Oh, gosh, that was close. Okay.

Andy 13:16

Why?

Tim 13:16

I grew up listening to Oldies 104.3, and I didn't know if we got the same oldies station.

Andy 13:20

Oh, no. Where we grew up, this was definitely a local one.

Tim 13:22

You weren't too far away.

Andy 13:23

Yeah. Okay. Like, my dad.

Tim 13:25

Local one. Gotcha.

Andy 13:26

My dad knew one of the DJs. They were, like, local. Yeah. Yeah, it was. He. He always. My dad was a big, like, Carpenters fan, so we. They. They played a lot of Carpenters, so we just. Yeah. Listened to it a lot. Yeah.

Tim 13:42

All those oldie stations are probably playing, like, Goo Goo Dolls and stuff now.

Andy 13:45

I know. Yeah.

Tim 13:46

Like,

Andy 13:49

it. Oldies. Yeah. It's like nirvana from the 90s and early 2000s.

Johnny 13:55

Eddie Vedder's still alive.

Andy 13:59

I was. Katie and I were at this sandwich place that we like to go to in. In the Bay Area, and they just play a lot of. Yeah. Music from, like, the early 2000s. They were playing. What is that? Who sings that one song called Closing Time that everybody sang for a long time? Oh, Sunny Sonic. Yeah, they were playing that and there was a. Just a group of like teens at a table who were just like mocking it in the same way that like we would mock.

Tim 14:23

Like we talked about Jefferson Airplane, early 80s.

Andy 14:27

And I was like, oh God, it me, I'm the old.

Johnny 14:30

Were they all wearing Doc Martens?

Andy 14:32

Probably. Yeah.

Tim 14:34

Yeah.

Johnny 14:34

Charlotte got her first Doc Martens.

Andy 14:36

Oh wow.

Johnny 14:37

It was an occasion because they make a lot of non leather ones now, which is cool.

Andy 14:41

Yeah. Wow. So yeah, a bunch of Eva destruction covers. I would definitely recommend checking out this playlist. There's only. I put seven of them on that I put my top five favorite and then I also put a couple more that were just like honorable mentions. Which actually led me to this really interesting other playlist by a Twitter friend of mine. It's called Shoot. What is it called? It's called Cover weeklies. And weekly is spelled W, E A K L Y. And they're just like really bad covers of songs. It's pretty good. I think you would like it. There's one that I don't think it's a bad cover, but I feel like I understand where they're coming from. It is. It's the Sheryl Crow's version of Sweet Child of Mine. That's very.

Johnny 15:26

That was bad.

Andy 15:27

Just kind of Cheryl Crowie. I thought it was nice. But I guess I'm not a, you know, Guns N Roses, like super fans, so why not?

Tim 15:36

I have a TikTok I'll have to send you of this guy who he made a video of what it would sound like if the Grateful Dead had covered Sweet Child of Mine. And it's remarkable. Like it sounds like a Dead song, but it's like playing the exact same licks from.

Johnny 15:48

Okay, is it like three days long? Yeah.

Andy 15:53

Eight minute guitar solo. Let it be.

Tim 15:55

Yeah.

Johnny 15:57

There's an account. The entire account is that song.

Tim 16:00

It was a live video. It's actually still going.

Andy 16:04

They don't let them. They don't let them stop. So there's that. And I guess other than that, besides watching the Oscars last night, that. That train wreck. I have really been enjoying the new season of Star Picard which I can't remember if I maybe mentioned last episode or not, but yeah, it's really good. They.

Tim 16:18

I think so.

Andy 16:19

Yeah.

Tim 16:20

I still need to watch it if

Andy 16:21

you want a really good. Just sort of like little nod to the past. They do you know how Star Trek has like, like a lot of like self referential things. So if anybody remembers Star Trek 4 like the mo. The original series movie where they Go back in time to like 1980s San Francisco. There's this scene where there' like they're all on a bus. Like Kirk and Spock are on a city bus and there's like this punk, he has like the big spiked mohawk and he's listening to the music really loud. And Kirk asked him to turn it down. And the punk's just like, no way, man. And just like gives him the finger. And then Spock goes over and like Vulcan pinches him. So on this latest episode of Picard, you know, they travel. The cast Travels back to 2024 at Los Angeles and they're all on this, on this bus. They kind of like Seven of Nine and Rafi, like two of the characters from Picard are on a bus and there's this like just like kind of middle aged, maybe old guy, punk haircut, listen to a song. Clearly it's the same actor as that, that Star Trek movie. And he's listening to his music and 7 of 9 asked him to, to turn it down. He kind of like rubs his neck and thinks about something. It's like, oh, sorry. And then turns it off. It was like, you know, Picard is basically just meant for people who just want to see all of their old favorite characters again. And they're definitely just like pandering. But it was really good. And I am writing in one of my last pages of my Orange Baron Finn coffin out. I'm just starting to think about what I'm gonna do next.

Johnny 17:49

I was thinking of you. I bought some quarter inch elastic. I was gonna send you some. You could do a little mole skinning on it.

Andy 17:56

Make a little, make a little hole and put a strap on it. I was thinking about that. I was actually gonna see if you wanted to make me another one of those little folders for the back.

Johnny 18:04

Abso. I have more colors to pick from now.

Andy 18:09

Once I figured out. I don't know if I'm going to go with a moleskin again, but. Or not a moles confidante or not, but we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm writing with my Blackwing 200, which we'll talk about in a little bit. Should we go to fresh points?

Tim 18:24

Let's do it.

Johnny 18:25

All right.

Andy 18:27

Mr. Tim. Yeah.

Tim 18:29

I'll start it out by reminding everybody about our book club episode again, which Johnny was talking about reading that book. The book is Palimpsest by Matthew Battles. So if you want to join us, we're going to be releasing our book club episode sometime next month. So pick up a Used copy. Listen to it on Scribd or on Audible or something. There are digital options how you can get it more quickly. But yeah, we'll be talking about that next month. Hope you'll join us. The book is the history of the written word and we're hoping to have a special guest on that episode as well.

Andy 19:04

How far are you guys into the book?

Johnny 19:05

So pretty far.

Andy 19:09

Yeah.

Tim 19:09

Not as far as Johnny. I'm probably, I don't know, 25 pages in or something. I'm not.

Andy 19:15

I'm definitely reading it. I definitely have not stalled. I'm definitely, you know, reading a lot of it.

Tim 19:22

Yeah, definitely. There's definitely a bookmark in the book.

Johnny 19:25

Yes.

Tim 19:25

It doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't matter what page, but there is a bookmark in the bookmark.

Johnny 19:31

Yeah. The important thing is playing cards are

Tim 19:33

the best bookmarks ever, by the way.

Andy 19:34

Playing cards. That's a good idea.

Tim 19:37

Yeah, I keep. I had a deck of cards that got water damaged. Like half the deck got like wet and they're all crinkly and gross and so I kept the other half and I was like about to throw them away and I was like, wait, no. And I've been using those for bookmarks for like three or four years.

Johnny 19:51

You can make cool little notebooks out of them too.

Andy 19:55

Wow.

Johnny 19:55

You want a really tiny little book.

Tim 19:58

You are like Carl Weathers in Arrested Development. But instead of making a stew, you'll turn it into a note.

Andy 20:05

Maybe we got a note going.

Tim 20:08

Get. Get yourself some string, some wax. You got a notebook going, some bond paper. All right, so yeah, Palimpsest Book club. Go pick up a copy of the book and hope you'll join us. On to talk about one of a couple new Baron fig squires. One that I think looks really incredible is the Earth Day Squire.

Andy 20:30

Oh yeah.

Tim 20:31

So that one looks really awesome. I haven't bought a Squire in a good long while and this is one that I'm thinking about because I've actually been using my erasable Squire a good bit recently and have been really enjoying it. And then this pops up in. Into my life and I want it. I almost want it just for the box.

Andy 20:48

Yeah, that box. Really good looking.

Johnny 20:51

I want the stuff they have in the photos. It's like the cutest little still life.

Andy 20:56

Yeah.

Tim 20:57

Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. So it's. It comes with, I think the pictures on the side are just three different types of trees drawn in a very like minimal, you know, one stick and a shape to represent the. The leaves on the tree. Which is really cool. And then it says at the top, keep it green. So I like. I like the environmentalist squire for sure. And they also said that for the Earth Day squire, I guess everyone that's purchased, they're planting two trees, which is also cool because I'm also pro tree.

Andy 21:28

Not me, man.

Tim 21:32

Screw trees, man. Taking up too much space.

Andy 21:35

We could put a condo there.

Tim 21:36

That could be a parking lot. That could be an ikea. Get it out of here.

Andy 21:41

Yeah.

Tim 21:42

So that one is moving on.

Johnny 21:43

Very cool.

Tim 21:44

I think I might be picking that up. I think I might be picking this one up also. Last thing I wanted to bring up is that Musgrave has been really crushing it with new stickers.

Andy 21:54

Oh, yeah.

Tim 21:54

If you guys have noticed those coming across on Instagram, and I'm about to place an order for some, and there's one especially that I thought was amazing where they just really simple, but they took. It's the M. The of Musgrave. And a pencil is kind of woven through the. The lines of the letter, and it looks really awesome. And I want to get that one. I want to put it on something, like put it on my computer or whatever. But in another timeline of my life, I might have flipped that one upside down and made it my pencil tattoo.

Andy 22:26

Oh, yeah.

Tim 22:27

I'm just saying, like the W, that would have been kind of cool.

Johnny 22:30

I think you should do that.

Tim 22:32

I. I don't know if I could. I don't know if I could do two pencil tattoos.

Johnny 22:34

Make it a pen.

Andy 22:37

There you go.

Tim 22:37

You put a fountain pen. Or do I just need to turn this into a pencil sleeve? Just all pencils.

Johnny 22:42

Yes. Heard you.

Tim 22:43

All right, crowdfund, let's do this.

Andy 22:46

Speaking of pens, did you see that other thing that Musgrave released?

Johnny 22:52

Yeah, those dual ended wooden pens.

Andy 22:55

Yeah.

Johnny 22:57

I thought it was weird. April Fool's joke.

Andy 22:59

Wait, what?

Tim 23:00

Okay, I'm on my way. Tell me about it.

Johnny 23:02

They're so. It's weird.

Tim 23:04

Yeah, they're done to pension.

Andy 23:07

It's. You can get them in blue and red or black and red, and they're in, like a cedar casing. And they're just. It's those ballpoint pens that remind me of the ones that you find in, like, your dad's garage. Like one that they would have put out, I don't know, like the 80s. Yeah. Yeah.

Tim 23:26

This is so weird and wonderful.

Andy 23:29

Yeah. I've never.

Tim 23:30

Wait, they come. They come in a pack of.

Johnny 23:32

I just can't say that's cheap.

Tim 23:34

Oh, they come in a pack of 12. That's wild.

Andy 23:38

So.

Tim 23:39

So we're gonna get them and then we're gonna figure out what we can cram inside of that. What other kinds of refills. We can see if we can get a bit crystal in there.

Johnny 23:45

It looks like the way that they're stuck on, they don't come off. They're sort of like.

Andy 23:48

Yeah, they're like pinch ribbon or something. Like a feral. It's like they use their pencil manufacturing machines in order to make this pen, which is a weird thing, but. Yeah.

Tim 23:57

Yeah, I think it's awesome.

Johnny 23:58

Oh, this was cool.

Tim 23:59

I mean, like, what a. Like a ballsy move. Yeah, like to go. It's like such a random direction. It's like, you know.

Andy 24:08

Well, we've conquered pencils. It's time to move on.

Tim 24:12

Time to move on to double ended pens. All right. Way to go, Musgrave. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, but they have a ton of cool stickers. The delgers are killing it.

Johnny 24:25

Yeah, that Musgrave, the skeleton hand. That could be my next pencil tattoo.

Tim 24:32

Yeah, these are. They're. They're really awesome.

Johnny 24:34

We.

Andy 24:34

They.

Tim 24:34

Some of the newer ones they. They sent us, which I've really enjoyed as well. Like the one they had, the one that kind of like hearkens to our tattoo a little bit where it's like a pencil that is shaped in an M. That one's very cool.

Andy 24:48

Yeah. Yeah.

Tim 24:49

Anyways, go check out Musgrave and pick up some cool stickers. And they're really high quality, if you're wondering. Like, they're really high quality stickers too. Like, most happy when they come, and I've put them on water bottles that I'm putting through the dishwasher and they stay put and haven't had any issues with them. Some handsome stickables.

Andy 25:10

Handsome Stickable is my other band name.

Tim 25:14

That's the album title of Great Direction. Handsome Stickables. Yeah. Okay, Johnny, what do you got?

Johnny 25:24

What are your.

Tim 25:24

What's your. I just stole that from. Take note. Sor.

Johnny 25:26

Fine.

Tim 25:27

Johnny, what would. What are your fresh points?

Johnny 25:29

I have not many, but one is pretty big. The field notes Signs of Spring edition, which I assume everyone in the world has seen by now, or everyone who's listening to this podcast if you haven't seen it. It's a three pack of yellow notebooks, and each one is, like, really deeply embossed with the image of one particular flower from one particular corner of the country. And they each has a different foil stamp for the logo and stuff. And they're really cool. They have yellow dot grid and a new paper, which is awesome.

Andy 26:02

Love that paper.

Johnny 26:04

Yeah, it's. It's soft but not flimsy. Yeah, that makes sense. I wonder like, if it's got a nice cotton content, but it's kind of light. Maybe not, but anyway, it's a Strathmore paper. It has sort of like a subtle. A subtle linen weave. And because of the way that they press the paper, it sort of just makes it bend really easily along the spine in a fun way. But have you guys put pens in yours?

Tim 26:32

Yeah, not.

Andy 26:33

It's. I don't know, it seems pretty nice with pens. I haven't used like a really wet

Johnny 26:36

fountain pen, but yeah, it's definitely better than a. Or more fountain pen. Friendly than the usual paper.

Andy 26:42

Yeah.

Johnny 26:43

I've had some good luck with a lot of inks. I had a couple very well behaved inks. Like, act like a napkin on there. So it's a mystery. Fountain pens are so weird. Meanwhile, all the pencils I put in there were fine. None of them bled. Except one, of course.

Andy 27:00

Your pencils.

Johnny 27:02

Yeah, one was one like bled everywhere, but I think it was.

Andy 27:07

Yeah.

Johnny 27:08

Oh, I didn't try Wopex on there. Yeah. I only have one more fresh point, which is self serving, which is probably irrelevant because this episode will come out after March 30, but if you missed it, I had some cool stuff in my shop, including a lot of like pencil day books that I made, many of which are free and also free hugs. But you missed it. So sorry

Tim 27:33

not to rub it in or anything.

Johnny 27:35

That's all good

Tim 27:37

mailing hugs.

Andy 27:38

How much was shipping on that free hug?

Johnny 27:40

I let Etsy figure it out. So I think it did rip some people off. It was like airfare and I didn't go so terrible. I'm not gonna make star seller this month.

Tim 27:51

Double sucks for them. Yeah.

Johnny 27:54

Yeah. How about you, Andy?

Tim 27:57

I hope somebody, like, leaves you a review in like two years. Just like leaves a review in your shop and says, like, I'm still waiting for my hug.

Andy 28:05

I'm still waiting for that.

Tim 28:07

Still waiting. Hasn't shown up yet. What's going on?

Andy 28:11

So my first fresh point is probably the most pencil pencil relevant news right now. It is the new Blackwing volumes edition. It is volume 200. And when they released like a week ago, the, like the teaser image, it was. I couldn't tell what it was, but it looked like maybe it was like a beehive or like hammered metal or something. And I just.

Tim 28:35

It looked like a cobble pot, like a Fancy cotton.

Andy 28:37

There was lots of discussion and people are like, oh, it's like a. How do you say that? Name of the, like, company that makes like cymbals and drums and stuff. Ziljin.

Johnny 28:45

Ziljan.

Andy 28:46

Zil Ziljin. People are like, oh, it's gonna be a ziljan edition. Yeah. It's like hammered metal.

Tim 28:51

A Moscow mule. Yeah.

Andy 28:53

Cup.

Johnny 28:54

Oh. See, as soon as I saw it, I thought 5:55am like, oh, this is a coffee one. But I didn't go on the Facebook group that much.

Andy 29:03

Yeah. So, yeah, it was. They released that and then people were speculating. A couple people said they thought it might be a coffee one. And then like the day before they released, they did another one, another teaser where they spelled out like volume 200 in like coffee beans. Like crushed coffee beans. And I was like, okay, this is definitely a coffee one. So very excited.

Tim 29:22

What could it be?

Andy 29:23

Two of my favorite pencils and coffee. Yeah, they released it and it is a. How do you describe it? It's copper made to look like this. The, like copper roasting kettles in coffee shops. And it is. It's not specifically coffee. It's called the coffee house pencil. And it's. It's celebrating the 50s and 60s when coffee houses became synonymous with creativity and intellectualism. And the 200 is short for the degrees centigrade that you want to try to get your roasted coffee to reach, which I didn't realize. I. I figured that 200 degrees centigrade was just like, you know, that like temperature of the surfaces of the sun or something. So I went and looked it up and it's like 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Not that it's not that much.

Johnny 30:06

Yeah.

Andy 30:07

Yeah, apparently not. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how centigrade works. Temperature of the sun, you know, like 40 degrees centigrade is like a very warm day.

Johnny 30:19

Yeah.

Tim 30:19

So 200 seems like just like.

Andy 30:22

Yeah. Boiling.

Tim 30:23

The 350 degree day would be.

Andy 30:25

Yeah, that would be really. That's true. That's a good point.

Johnny 30:27

I mean, I think we're like, we're 15 or 20 years from that emerald.

Andy 30:32

That's true.

Johnny 30:34

A little time.

Andy 30:35

That is true.

Tim 30:36

Terrible Roast coffee outside retirement bubbles by then.

Johnny 30:39

Think of all the time in our

Tim 30:41

retirement capsule in space.

Andy 30:42

Well, what we should do is cut down all the trees, build the IKEAs, go inside the air conditioning.

Tim 30:47

There you go.

Johnny 30:48

Yeah.

Tim 30:49

Good. Air conditioning. That's true.

Johnny 30:51

Anywho, we can live on cinnamon rolls and soft serve ice cream.

Andy 30:55

Hey, I already do meatballs. Sorry. So this pencil is. The finish is copper. The ferrule is copper. The eraser is black. The imprint and is also black. And then it has a firm graphite. Do you guys have this in hand? What do you think of this pencil?

Johnny 31:15

The pencil.

Tim 31:16

I don't have it in hand. You were got some on the way.

Andy 31:18

You were ranting about it, Johnny. Yeah.

Johnny 31:22

So I don't want to be that like woke guy. Like you can't talk about white stuff, but there's a whole history of coffee shops.

Andy 31:30

Don't talk about white stuff.

Johnny 31:33

They like. That's not the historic period of coffee shops. That was significant. Like, have you heard of the American Revolution or the Ottoman Empire? Like, Jesus. Like, do you have Wikipedia? I thought the volumes were supposed to be a story. And like with coffee, there's so many good stories to tell that aren't just like white west coast guys in the 50s and 60s. I thought it was a lost opportunity to do something really cool. But the pencils a little bit more.

Andy 32:01

Yeah, Yeah.

Johnny 32:02

I mean they could have done like kaldi. They could have referenced the cherries and not the industrial coffee pots. So it's like it's not the coffee edition, it's the coffee maker edition. So I guess there's a Keurig one coming next.

Andy 32:17

Made of, I think Nespresso. Already made that one. Terrible.

Johnny 32:23

Oh, they actually did.

Andy 32:24

Yeah.

Johnny 32:24

Right. But no, it's cool. This, I like the pencil and it's just that the story could have been a little cooler.

Andy 32:31

Yeah.

Johnny 32:32

And also the two coppers are not the same. And it really bothers me.

Andy 32:38

That's true.

Tim 32:40

That Pharaoh, the copper colored feral is the most exciting thing about it.

Johnny 32:44

Yeah.

Andy 32:44

I think open up some new hack wing options.

Tim 32:47

Yeah, absolutely.

Johnny 32:49

They'd done black pencil with a copper ferrule and a copper stamp. That would have been even cooler in some ways. But I guess they're tired of making black pencils, which I was thinking they something they have.

Andy 33:01

They. There's this pencil company or this company that makes a pencil made out of compressed coffee grounds. Like. Like for recycling. I think they should have just done a black wing made of compressed coffee grounds and it would smell really good. Then if you stir some hot water with it, you make yourself some. Some delicious coffee.

Johnny 33:17

I'd be dead. I would just eat them. Like, you guys want my ferals for hack wings?

Tim 33:27

There are cheaper ways to do this.

Andy 33:29

Crunch, crunch control.

Johnny 33:31

So I don't remember if recent volumes have had a different box. Like this box had sort of a like A leaf motif. That was very nice. That was cool.

Andy 33:42

Leaf motif is my band name.

Johnny 33:47

Parade of band names. Yeah. This one like, I don't know, it was cool. Just for coffee. It could have been more interesting.

Andy 34:00

Yeah.

Johnny 34:01

Maybe do another one. They should. Coffee is a big topic. They could just do the Kaldi edition. That'll be cool.

Andy 34:08

My sister was not a tie in with Starbucks and then they would. They could sell it at the Roastery

Johnny 34:14

or even like they could have talked about coffee ceremonies.

Andy 34:17

Yeah.

Johnny 34:17

My. My sister in law is Ethiopian and she always has really good stories about the most delicious stuff. I want to go back in time and across the world with her and bring my nephew because he's funny. But yeah, yeah, I'll stop ranting about it.

Andy 34:34

That's the Blackwing 200. Yeah. I myself like, like the. Like from a just design perspective. I like some of the simpler ones. Just the. The sort of like less literal executions on a theme. And this one is really nice. It's just a nice. Somebody compared it to a 530 which was gold and then also the Philadelphia Museum of Art which is also gold. And it definitely like is not as coppery as it probably could be. It looked actually pretty close to those gold ones. But I don't know. Still I like it. I appreciate a firm graphite.

Johnny 35:02

Those metallic paints on top of wood and then I assume they have to put something clear on top of them. That's got to be complicated.

Andy 35:08

Yeah, that's true.

Johnny 35:09

I can't fault them for the color not matching the feral.

Andy 35:12

Yep.

Johnny 35:12

But you know, OCD

Tim 35:18

and the sort of one color all the way down doesn't really appeal to me personally. Like I don't mind the. Don't mind the contrast.

Johnny 35:27

But you were a big fan of the 24.

Tim 35:29

That's because John Steinbeck.

Johnny 35:32

Damn, you're a hypocrite.

Tim 35:34

No, no, that was just my Steinbeck love.

Johnny 35:36

But that one was a good one though. I like that one.

Tim 35:38

That was a good one.

Johnny 35:39

Yeah. And they didn't.

Tim 35:41

So yes.

Johnny 35:42

I pump out a bunch of merch with this one. I noticed which was different.

Andy 35:46

Yeah, they had a coffee mug which looks really nice.

Johnny 35:48

A book in that color would have been really cool.

Andy 35:51

Oh yeah.

Johnny 35:52

What's the pocket one? The clutch.

Andy 35:55

Yeah, they. The subscriber extra was a little. Oh just like 8 by 10 ish. Like burlap sack that kind of looks like something you would transport coffee beans in. That has the Blackwing logo and it has like an Aeropress and a mocha pot and a French press. And you know, a bunch of different like coffee making accessories on it which, which is pretty cool.

Johnny 36:19

Yeah, that one was well done. I'd like that on a T shirt. I'd wear the heck out of that. Yeah, I actually, I used the bag to put my volumes tubes in. Now that's very strong.

Andy 36:35

That's a good. That's a good plan. So that's the Blackwing 200 I was going to also just kind of quickly mention. Well, Tim was talking about Squires. Blackwing did Blackwing Baron Fig did a collab with Netflix and they released both a Squire and a kind of a structured content journal. And the, the journal is interesting. It's a confident. Sorry, they call it a guided journal and it's for keeping like logs to write and remember and share movies and you know, things like that. It. It's a good Netflix. So that one is cool. I much I really like the, the Squire that it came with.

Tim 37:10

It's.

Andy 37:11

It's called the Play and it is red and it has sor. A play and then the like little scrubber from the bottom of like a video window on it which looks pretty cool.

Johnny 37:21

I think calling that red is an understatement. That is like violently.

Andy 37:25

It's very rare. Like I assume it's. I assume it's Netflix red. Nailed it.

Johnny 37:30

On the book especially.

Andy 37:32

Yeah, yeah, they did a. Yeah, just a very good job with that. So yeah, kudos. Kudos to that. I have a friend who works at Netflix and I asked him if he can get like it for cheaper in like the Netflix like store. Internal store.

Tim 37:45

Cannot.

Andy 37:45

The answer is no, he cannot. So yes. So yeah, that's a pretty good one. Last thing I wanted to mention is speaking of. I don't know what you're speaking of, but I recently did a little. Did a little trade with a new friend. If anybody here is familiar with the pencil pusher zine project it's on. I think he's pencil pusher project on Instagram. But it's a guy named Andrew Mecham who is. He runs a nonprofit letterpress shop in the North Bay in the Bay Area. So maybe like 50 miles to the north of San Francisco there's a little town called Sebastopol and he has like a little print shop, letterpress shop. That looks gorgeous. I really want to go visit it. He also has done some contract work with Blackwing as like a sales development person. So didn't realize that until we were chatting a little bit on. On Instagram. But he. It caught my eye. I followed him for a little while, it seemed like it was a zine project, but I'd never heard him talk about scenes. And he posted a story with some stuff from the Facebook analog lab, which was, you know, when I worked there, just a really cool place that just produced some cool posters and notebooks. And one of the guys who worked there designed the graphic that we. We turned into our matching tattoos. So I was just like chatting with Andrew a little bit and I was like, hey, I want to send you something. So I sent him a. One of those posters that. That has our little pencil. Our pencil Penrose on it and the misattributed Marsha McLuhan quote and a couple other things. And he sent me. He sent me four issues of a zine of the graphite zine, so.

Johnny 39:15

Oh, those are so pretty.

Andy 39:16

Yeah, yeah, he did.

Johnny 39:17

Is it awesome?

Andy 39:19

It's very cool. I'll send you guys some pictures. But it's. What's great is it has this a really, just like clean, just heavy duty cover. And the insides are just like little vignettes, little pictures and cartoons and stuff. And they do such a good job. It looks like graphite. It doesn't look like a photocopy of graphite. It look. Just looks like graphite on the inside. So that's pretty fun. Yeah, he did. Just did a bunch of them. So highly recommend. If you. I'll have a link in the. The show notes. I think that you can still get all of the issues. Issues from him and you can send me some stickers, which is cool.

Johnny 39:51

You can get them two at a time and save some cash too.

Andy 39:54

Yeah. So, yeah. Andrew, thank you so much for the trade. Um, yeah, I really appreciate it. That is about all. Can anybody else think of anything we should talk about before we button it up?

Johnny 40:04

I would like to. I don't reiterate how fun the April Fool's episode was to make. Not just. Yeah, listen to.

Andy 40:13

Just go and listen. Yeah.

Tim 40:14

Thank you to.

Andy 40:16

Yeah.

Tim 40:16

All of you are involved. It was just. It was really something special, something we'll remember for us.

Johnny 40:20

I want to get the pictures up on Instagram, but I have to do a lot of blurring of faces and other things.

Andy 40:27

Yeah, that's a good point.

Johnny 40:28

I'm not very good at Photoshop, so it's taken me a while.

Andy 40:31

Sorry. Send it to me.

Johnny 40:32

I'll take care of it.

Andy 40:34

Cool.

Johnny 40:34

You're in a lot.

Tim 40:35

And he knows a guy. And he knows a guy. He knows 3,000 of them.

Andy 40:41

So, Tim, where can people find you on the Internet.

Tim 40:44

You can find me on Twitter imwassum and I am on Instagram at timothywasum.

Andy 40:49

Nice Johnny.

Johnny 40:51

You can find me on Instagram and Twitter ensolution and you can see what you missed on pencil day@etsy.com shop pencilrevolution.

Andy 41:01

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