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Boomers and AI art are just an interesting combination. I burned down the equivalent of 12 acres of rainforest just to make you this picture. Hello, and welcome to episode 226 of the erasable podcast. Along with my co host, Johnny Gamber. I am Andy Welfle on hosting duties tonight. Our other third in the trio, Tim is real busy, so it's been hard to kind of like nail him down, but he has some stuff going on. So we were like, you know, instead of letting this go another week and maybe just like finding reasons to not record, we're like, let's just do a short episode. So you're stuck with just the two of us today. Yeah. So how you doing, Johnny?

Yeah.

Yeah. How are you? Lots of new stuff. Yeah, man. If we don't talk about it now, then maybe we'll get scooped.

Exactly.

Yeah. So, yeah, things are getting hot out here in San Francisco. It was pretty, pretty warm today and over in Baltimore. Yeah, Johnny. No, actually it was like. It was like in the 70s today for a little bit, so.

That's hot for San Francisco. We don't even. We don't have A.C. usually around here. And Johnny, you've had your A.C. on today, right?

Oh, man, I didn't realize.

Yeah. No, I don't blame you.

Yeah. It's funny, one of the things in our household. My girlfriend is Canadian and one of the things that we are. We cannot communicate on is temperature. Like, she's on Celsius and I'm on Fahrenheit. And like, it's. It's gotten to the. Like, it's gotten. It's really hard to, like, guesstimate between them. You have to do some, like, complicated math. So that's been interesting. Like, if. If she's like, what's the temperature out? And I'm like, looking. I'm like 65. She was like, that means nothing to me. So I'm getting better. I'm like, I think that's about 16, 16 and a half. Yeah. So, yeah, let's. Let's get into it. We have a few tools of the trade, and then, yeah, we have some cool field notes things. Some cool Blackwing things to talk about and just kind of see what else happens. So, Johnny, do you want to jump into some tools of the trade? Oh, real quick. I should remind you. So if you are a Patreon member at any level, you are probably you. If you're not, you could be seeing a video of us talking. You can see our lovely faces and usually try to hold up the stuff we're talking about. So if you're a Patreon member, you have that. We have some other interesting Patreon perks that just came along last week that I will mention a little late in the episode. But, yeah. So we are obviously recording audio. This is a podcast, after all. But also, like, come check out our video if you're on Patreon at any level at all.

Oh, yeah, mine is. Mine is more than stubble, but it doesn't look like it. It is poor.

Okay. Your face is dirty, Andy.

Andor is so good. Like, I don't understand. Well, I understand why it took a year and a half or however long it took to make the second season. But, like, I don't, like, the writing is just so much better than any other Star Wars.

Because the writing was crappy.

Yeah. No, it's. It's. It's so good. I remember watching it just be like, oh, well, I remember I really liked Rogue One, and I thought it was, like, just interesting when they got away from the typical Star wars story. And when I was like, oh, it's a prequel to Rogue One. I was just like. But it's just so much more than even that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You read it.

Oh, nice. Yeah.

yeah, Pulitzer is important. Booker is good.

Oh, wow.

Oh, nice.

They were talking about it's not good.

Congratulations. Congratulations. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

How structured is it? Does it have, like. Like time Slots or is it just days or weeks?

Yeah.

I was. I had to go back and look at the last episode and see what I was talking about then, but have not moved on to any new books since then. And a lot of it is because my brain has like so been occupied with. So the week we recorded last I had. I was giving a conference talk in San Francisco. And lately the last few weeks I've been writing another conference talk which I'm going to be giving in London in a few weeks. And I like, I feel like when I'm writing like a talk like that it just like takes over my brain and I'm just so exhausted by the end of it that like, between that and work, I'm just like, have no room for like adding like interesting media to my brain. So most of the stuff I've been consuming media wise has just been like disassociating like YouTube videos. But I have been watching. There's a. There's a really fun anime series on Netflix called Cells at Work. Have you heard of this? It's. It basically interprets cells in your body as like little characters in an anime. So there's like a bunch of like red blood cells that have like little hats and they, they like scurry around through like taking tanks of oxygen to other cells. There's like your white blood cells which are just like these warriors that like come in and just like massacre like the bad, bad viruses.

No. Yeah. It's told through the eyes of one of the red blood cells. And he's just like trying to do his job and deliver oxygen. But there's all this. There was like a series that was a little bit more kid education oriented. And then there's a new series that came out, I think the last couple of years that's like in a body that's like really hard on itself, like an alcoholic. And at some point this, this body gets like a venereal disease. And like there's, there's a lot. Like first they talk about like the, like they have to. All the red blood cells have to congregate down down below because they're trying to, like, get an erection, and then they finally accomplish that, and then all of a sudden it lets in all of these, like, these, like, terrible viruses, these monster viruses. That's venereal disease.

Yeah, and there's, like, it's going through balding. Like, it's going like this. This body's having a rough time, and it's a little bit more gritty. So, yeah, it's. It's. It's fun. It's very accurate in sort of like how the biology works, if the biology were all a bunch of little anime characters speaking in Japanese. So it's pretty good. Mostly been doing that and then working on conference talks. But, yeah, like you. I'm going to binge andor when it comes out, going to be on a plane in a couple weeks for about 10 hours and going to London. So I'm going to probably watch it on the plane. Yeah. And I want to watch that. And I also want to watch the new season of Doctor who, so I'm not quite sure which I'll watch first or maybe I'll alternate.

Yeah. Yeah. But, man, that Disney app is going to be just cranking. Yeah. And besides that, I have been writing. Well, one of the pencils I've been using the last couple days, I will not talk about. Because we'll talk about it later. But I also have the new. I've never owned a lamy ballpoint, so I'm holding this up, and it's this really pretty, kind of like, light metallic blue. They call it denim, but that, to me is, like, lighter than I would think denim is. And the, like, very signature lammy, like, like, grip, triangular grip is in this, like, translucent orange plastic that reminds me of. Do you ever use, like. Do you ever play with legos in the 90s? The 80s and 90s, when they had, like, the visors were like, different translucent plastic and there's like an antenna that you put on your ship or whatever. Yeah, it just reminds me of that, which is exactly the reason I bought it. So it writes. It writes pretty good. It's very smooth. I mean, it's a ballpoint, so it's not, like, super smooth and flowy. I mean, it's a lammy, so it's not smooth anyway.

Yeah, I'm sure it is. They do also have fountain pens like this. And I. I might either get the one that's in this color. Are the One that's in like a dark, dark purple with like a fluorescent yellow grip.

Yeah. Which is a really good color. But yeah, I, I mostly like, I'll. I have like a couple lammies and I like to buy them because of the colors. Like I have an iconic yellow one. Then I also have like this green one that's a really good color. This is my, my green safari. So yeah, I mostly. Yeah, they write fine. Mostly I just buy them for the colors and this one is no exception.

Oh yeah.

Oh, wasn't that like a big drama thing?

Yeah. I sort of remember Brad like talking about like he got like the official wine from Lammy or something like this and talking about it in his podcast.

That was like, okay, look for that.

yeah, cool.

That's my fresh points. You want to jump into some of the tools of the trade stuff, talk about our abilities.

Yeah.

So I'll hold it up because I, I'm not blurring my background. So. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think they accidentally oversold. I actually really appreciated their email because they were pretty. Just open about that and they're like, yeah, we oversold, but we're going to do another run. And so I'm pretty sure I ordered these before. Well, obviously I did because I got the Shipment. So, yeah, I. So I got the. I got the pencils, and then I also ordered the notebook just because I really, just really like the idea. So they released a lab notebook to go with it that is. That has black pages for you to write in it. And it looks pretty good. My girlfriend just likes to kind of like, doodle and draw, and she was kind of playing around with it. So if you. If you can see this, there's just like some gold and silver accents, and she just drew, like, little things and. Yeah, it shows up. Shows up really well in this black paper. It's. It's almost like construction paper. It's pretty toothy.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I did not.

Wait, there was a blackwing summer tote. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they look really good. Yeah.

I am swimming in tote bags. So I. Especially with all these conferences I've been going to. Like, there's so many tote bags.

So it's good to get another. Yeah, it's great. I really. I really like that. Just that flower color on it. Like.

What do they do? They replace the O and notes with. It's like the center of, like a daisy or something.

Sunflower. Yeah.

Oh, fine. I mean, that's. I have a tote bag to store. All the damn tote bags I have.

It's sort of like back when everybody was still using all the, like, one use plastic bags. Like, you just had a plastic bag that's full of plastic bags. So we've just replaced that with. Yeah.

Oh, it's that guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. I didn't make that connection, but, yeah, that was a. The Underland Underworld. Underbrush. Underland. Oh, man, I should know that one. Yeah. Like, gorgeous cover.

Yeah.

Yeah.

based it on with a bri. Did you see that little.

Little Norris pencil in the front. That's interesting. So, wait, one is the US Cover, and one is the British cover. I'm looking at this and, like, the basic difference is that one has another shade of darker blue in it. Is that just the difference?

Okay. It's interesting that they would have.

Yeah. Yeah, it's gorgeous. I love the. And another thing I like about these notebooks is it has, like, a selective uv, like, glossy coating on it. So it really kind of gives it some texture the way it sort of

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Go find them and take your phone and record a, an interview for like,

The last time we had a British author on the show, it went really well.

But I think, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure Rollie listens to the show just like as soon as it comes out. So. Hey, Rolly.

Something I have, they have the Janus in there, which is one of my favorites that I could never make work really well.

Oh, cool.

Yeah. But did you see, did you see the, like in the article about that box? They had like a, like a, a link to the artists. Like he wrote a substack with all of his pencil sharpen, his pencil sharpener collection. I'll put the link in the show notes. But yeah, it's really cool. Like he. That dude has hundreds of pencil sharpeners and he has them arranged very nicely too. Like it looks like it's one of those old type, like type boxes, hot type boxes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What are the appointment. What are appointments?

Oh, cool.

I see. Yeah.

You put the Vertigree in the Verdigris.

Yeah, that's really cool.

And depends, do they get federal funding? Yeah, they left, so we don't cry.

Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I just have a few things to talk about. The first one, I'll mention kind of the. The last roundup of the. Just, just the new things that came out. And that is the new Blackwing. You know, we all. We all got a. The notice. It was Blackwing140. And like, this is the quarterly edition Black Wing. I mean, and I guess so it's interesting. Sometimes I feel like they send out the non California orders first, and then people get theirs like a few days before me. And sometimes they just send them all out first. And because I'm not that far from Stockton, I get like a couple days, usually a couple days before others. So this came in, I think, on Saturday. And yeah, it is the Blackwing 140. And I'm holding it up right now. And it is bright, bright silver. And what's interesting about it is that this is a different silver than on the paint on the, like, Black Wing Labs. So for the. The silver ink, like, this is a much sort of shinier kind of shinier. I don't know if you can see this in the, like in the view, but it's like more of a mirror finish than. Than this one. And so what it's Trying to do. It's the culinary pencil, and it is all silver. The paint is silver. The ferrule of silver, like, has kind of a gray silvery eraser. And it is, I guess, 140 is the Celsius temperature for the Maillard reaction, which is when things start to, like, caramelize and form, like, a crust and things like that. It's like when things happen, like in cooking, it's. It's at that point. So this is stainless steel because of, like, commercial kitchens are typically stainless steel. I mean, this isn't stainless steel. Stainless steel colored because of, like, it's

Yeah, it's very, very, very firm if it's stainless steel. So, yeah, it is. It's gorgeous. I. You know, these are my favorite kind. The ones that are just a very simple sort of execution of a theme. The. I think the last one that I liked this much was like the Golden Gate Bridge 1. Just very simple, no wrap. You know, this is just the paint job. And what I like is I haven't actually. I need to dig out my. My collection. But, you know, I. The Philadelphia Museum of Art pencil black wing that they came up with was just like, full gold. Just everything was gold. And then we had the coffee pencil last. Last year, two years ago, whenever that came out.

Yeah, that's like copper, because, like a copper pot. And so we have a silver and gold and copper pen, like black wings now, which is fun. So that could be fun to play around with the, you know, the erasers in there. So. Yeah, that is the culinary pencil. It's a. It's a balanced graphite. So it's the pearl graphite, which isn't my favorite, but it's not terrible. It's fine. It. Yeah, just looks. Looks really good. Good job. Good job. Black one on that one.

No, they. I actually, yeah, the subscriber extras. You know, I. I don't like to complain about subscriber extras because they're just. That they're an extra, but they're just kind of like. I. They phoned in a little bit, and they were busy with the labs, but they're essentially. You get three of these, like, little note cards that has, like, kind of a structured recipe thing on the front, but, like, it's hard to see in this. In this video. But, like, wow. You have to write real tiny if you want to, like, actually use the sort of ingredients in the directions list. And then on the back, there's like, a A storyboard thing. Story. Visual sections for story sections for visual sections for notes. I didn't read the, the email too carefully so I don't really know what this, this is for. It's fine. I'm not going to use these. I'm probably going to throw them away.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not quite sure where you are supposed to put them in but like also the only, the top corner, only one top corner is rounded. The rest of it is sharp and I'm not quite sure what that's four.

Okay, that's good. If you want some extra ones, I'll send them to you. Yeah, so not huge on that but that would have, would have been fun if they had like a little recipe book. But yeah, I get it.

Yeah. So yeah, that is, that's the black wing. One thing I wanted to mention is in, gosh, two and a half weeks I am going to Europe for a few days. So I'm doing a conference talk in London. It's a content design leadership conference. So it's basically the job that I have. I'm going to be talking about like burnout and moving from like being a manager to we call it an ic, an individual contributor which is basically like a non manager role. So I'll be doing and talk about that. But I. It's been 10 years since I've been in London but I went to like Choosing Keeping and Present correct and like some of the cool stores so I'm going to go back to those. I'm going to spoiler hung out with. Gosh, my brain is not working. Noah from Maker's Cabinet when he was in town and actually going to go hang out with him in London and get a tour of the Maker's Cabinet space.

And I'm going to. I'm. I'm not quite sure what form it'll take yet but I'm going to try to record some video and maybe a little walkthrough and maybe some of that will make it into the show and some of it will be a Patreon extra but like kind of check out some of the like in my head the Maker's Cabinet space is just like this old sort of like Da Vinci workshop with all these things around and like really fancy brass things all over the place. I have no idea what it's actually like but that would be cool. So going to take a little tour of that. And then I would love any stationery recommendations that folks have for London and Paris because after London, I'm going to go to Paris for about five days and never been to Paris, but there's some really cool stationery shops there. I can probably find some. But I would love any recommendations people have. So unfortunately I am not on in the Facebook group, but I. A, I'm in the discord and then B, feel free to drop me an email. That's andyoodclinch.com I'll definitely share any shops that I get to go to. But if you have any shop recommendations, would love to hear those then. Also, like any interesting Parisian or French stationery items that seems like I should be picking up. So definitely going to see if there's any interesting, like Bic products that are just like special to France. Like I have some of the like translucent like yellow viros. Right. Like, like that they have.

No.

Bic makes this. Do they currently make it or is it like antique? Really? Okay, well, I'm gonna look for that.

Yeah. Okay. Interesting.

Yeah, that's my favorite kind of like. Yeah, those are my favorite kind of finds.

Like just the pedestrian stuff that like. Yeah. So definitely would love recommendations for that. Yeah. And if there's any like, interesting. I know that Johnny, you have a love for those kind of like vintage French, like school book, school notebooks out there. So maybe if I can find like, if I can find me a, like a antique store, maybe that would be something that shows up there. But yeah, I don't know what they

Yeah. There's a certain je ne sais quoi in that paper.

Yeah. Also, my French is real bad, so I'm probably going to start an international incident.

Okay. Can you come and be my translator? That would be.

Erica's Erica's pretty good at French. Like, she grew up in Canada, so, like, she wouldn't grow up in, like, the francophone areas. But, like, you know, she knows enough French to kind of get by, so that should be good. So I'm gonna eat all the pastries Coffer told me about. Apparently there's some really good pand raisins out there. I don't know how to say it in French, but, like, raisin bread. So definitely gonna get some raisin croissants. Yeah. So if we hopefully. Yeah, maybe we can record before I go. But if we don't definitely have some so. And tell for when I. When I get back.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, Boston's still great too, so I've never been. I would like to go to Boston.

Hey, ask the Bob Slate people if we can, like, borrow back room and do a recording there.

Oh, no.

I don't know.

Last thing I want to mention is just an update on merch stuff. I talked about both of these things last episode, but we have some, like, official things that are, like, up now. So the little erasable lapel pins, the eraser friends. I have, like, little cool, like, pin cards for them, and they're all bagged up and ready to ship out. I don't know if you. I think I got this since I sent Johnny, you and Tim the samples, but I found out on Amazon you can just buy, like, different color of pinbacks. The little rubber clutch for the back.

And so I was like, what the heck? These are so cheap. So I bought, like, a yellow one and a pink one and to make just, like, little pencil colors. So the backs have those.

Oh, the locking ones are. Yeah.

So if you missed the last episode, these are little, like, inch and a half long erasers that say the erasable podcast has a little smiley face on it. This is designed by Betsy Streeter, who's a friend of mine, and we were just kind of talking one day about, like, how we used to draw little smiley faces on our erasers to make little friends. And so she was like, she illustrated. And I was like, hey, can we make a Patreon of this? So send it out to all of our patreon members at $10 a month or more. You probably already got those. But anybody if you are a $5 a month subscriber, one of the things we try to do is give you little, like, discounts and stuff. So if you subscribe at A$5 a month, you can get a coupon code to buy this for essentially half off. So get yourself a little. Erase the lapel pin. But also it's just up on our website, on the little, little store for sale. So we've already had a. I haven't even talked about this at all, and we've already had quite a few sales. So, yeah, you can buy this there. Yeah, just a fun little new thing. We haven't done a. We haven't done a lapel pin in like eight years. So I just, I just found the other day I have one. One left that I can find and I have like the little erasable logo lapel pen, which was a real bear to make because they put this post on wrong and at first so had to send them back and get them again. So, yeah, get yourself one of these. We also have. Oh, if you go to erasable Us Friend, it's the like, little product page for this thing. Also. I have. Yeah, Johnny just put his on his head. Little embroidered erasable podcast logo caps that are baseball caps. They're corduroy. Even though they're corduroy, they're still pretty lightweight. Yep. Good for the summer. They come in sort of a reddish burgundy color. They come in. Johnny's wearing one that is olive, but I think it's more gray than it is green.

Yeah. And this one is navy. And I think there's also a black one that I don't have one on hand, but this is the classic logo. And the two colors with the. With the red banner and just sort of a white pencil behind it. Yeah, it looks really nice as a hat. I've actually twice worn this out in the world and people are like, oh, what's that? It's like, that's my podcast. Just that asshole who has a hat for his own podcast.

So I will. I'll say a quick thing about the pricing. They're $30, and that is mostly because kind of costs us a lot to make and I needed to make a little bit more. Like I wish, I wish this thing was a little bit cheaper, like 5$10 cheaper. But I think it's because, like there's a fee for like the hat itself and for the embroidery and stuff like that. But it is a, it is really nice quality. And if you order on our website, they come straight from the factory. So basically that connects to Printful, which is the company that makes this, the vendor and they, they make it and send it right to you. So, and I, I'm pretty sure if you're overseas, I think that they have printing locations in Europe and in Canada, so you don't have to deal with whatever the heck tariffs there are in the world. Yeah, not, not 100% sure of that, but I think that's the case. It's a little difficult to set up, but yeah, it should be pretty seamless from, you know, from your end of it. So if you want a nice little hat order that I would love to know from folks, I've been trying to be very, instead of just like plastering our logo on all the things, I've just been trying to be really selective. And so if anybody out here, out there has feedback with stuff that they would love to like have a little erasable podcast logo on, like let me know, like we have little winter hats that you can do. There's baseball caps that are not corduroy. There's like snapback cats if caps. If you want something that's a little bit more trendy. There's like those foam trucker caps if you want to have it very like kind of draplin esque. I think that one is maybe screen print instead of embroidery though. So I would probably like put maybe like a full color logo or something like that on there.

Ooh, I don't know. That'd be fun.

Oh, an apron. Yeah, I could use an apron, but yeah, I want to save on just like random swag waste. Like I work in tech and there's just so much swag that it's just like just filling landfills. So I want to be really intentional and I want to do stuff that people actually just want to wear. And so I'm not going to like plaster this all over everything. But I think it'd be fun to Have a couple cool little items. So. So yeah, that's erasable.com hat. Or if you go to erasable.com. excuse me, not dot com. Us. Erasable us. Slash shop. You can see these. Somebody ordered. I apparently I still have in the shop. Remember that podcast I had called Dot Grid? I still have stickers for that in the shop. Really? And somebody orders them. I was like, oh, shoot, now I have to find these stickers. And I did, thank goodness. So I shipped those out. We have some erasable logo stickers in there. I have I think three, still three issues of Plumbago that's in the shop that you can buy the collector's issue, the travel and nature issue, and then the. The last issue that we made, the little small pocket one. Oh, that's the tin. The tiny issue. So yeah, got those in the shop. Yeah. Have your fun. This, this proceeds from this mostly just goes to like hosting costs and keeping the lights on and occasionally like equipment upgrades and stuff like that. So when Tim's microphone bites the dust, we can just like pull from the coffers.

Yeah, yours is. I didn't realize you have like a little light inside that microphone.

Yeah.

Just by microphone light. Yeah. So yeah, that's about it. Any kind of last minute things we want to talk about, Johnny?

That's right. That's right.

That's too bad.

Okay.

Yeah. So if. So if write notepads is like going to keep on doing like corporate sales. Could I potentially like still buy those notebooks with like, if I order them in bulk with a company logo on it?

I've been trying to get. So the startup I work at, like, we're not very good at making swag. Like we tend to make just like really junky T shirts and stuff. And I've been trying to convince them to, like, make some custom black wings or do some cool notebooks, and I think that would be a really neat. Really neat notebook. So, yeah, I might try to talk. Talk somebody there into that, but concentrate on one thing. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I remember, like, I loved. Loved their quarterly editions, but I also know that that was a big time in strain on Chris and Mose and everybody. So, like, I'm. I'm glad that, yeah, they're taking a break, but, yeah, I'll miss those. Miss the right notepad stuff.

Yeah.

Time to buy some more.

Yeah. Just take. Take it for granted. Cool. Well, yeah, we can probably. Probably button it up. I. I guess we haven't done a real kind of like, full endnote read for a while, but if. If y' all want to kind of engage with the podcast on various channels, we do still have a Facebook page and an Instagram page, which are. It's whatever. Facebook.com Instagram.com erasablepodcast still have a erasable group that I tragically am not in anymore because I gave up Facebook earlier this year. But I imagine it's still going strong. I actually really missed that group for when I was asking for, like, shop recommendations because I can't just, like, slide in there and do that anymore. But that is erasable. Excuse me. Facebook.comgroups/erasable. Technically, we still have an X account, but I don't think any of us are looking at that. I probably wouldn't try to get a story. Yeah, if you're. If you're a hipster, come on over to Bluesky. We're at Erasable podcast on Blue sky, and I don't update that much. Gosh, we're real bad at this. I think Instagram is mainly our thing. But also, if you want to check out this episode with the audio file and show notes and things like that, it's erasable U.S. 226. This is episode 226. And of course, we're on Discord, which is a new thing that I'm trying out. I'm also not very good about checking that out. But if you want a little community that isn't owned by a billionaire yet, I think it's just a matter of yet. No, seriously yet. Little chat app. It's erasable us/discord d I S C O R D and we'll have a, like a little invite link or something there. So yeah, check us out there. We're also on Patreon Patreon us. Excuse me, patreon.com erasable. I think I also have erasable us/patreon set up to forward to it. But if you subscribe at any level, you can see this video, a video of our episodes. You can see some extras. Like sometimes we do a pen podcast. We should do one of those soon. And if you subscribe at the $10 a month level, sometimes once a year we send you a little piece of swag, which is fun and do some cool stuff. So like this little erasable pin. So I think we're done sending this out for this year. But if you subscribe at the $10 level, check it out next spring we'll do another cool thing. Another thing we do for folks who subscribe that level is we read your name at the end of the show, which is what we will do here. So actually, real quick, before we do that, Johnny, where can people find you on the Internet and your in your

Is there still a blog? Like, can you go read your blog post there too? Or is that not a thing anymore?

Oh.

Yeah, some of that is good though. Like I, I still read like I was looking up the black polymer 999 and like I just found a bunch of old pencil talk posts. And I mean, Stephen Silk sometimes updates, but like just a lot of pencil talk stuff and yeah, that's. It's handy to have that around. Woodclinch is still up and people keep, keep hitting it. Like, I haven't, I haven't updated in like two years. So.

Yeah. And are you on any socials anymore or are you just.

Okay. With that, I need to. Well, we'll take this offline, but maybe you can make us some, like, reels or some stories about, like, the new erasable swag or something to. Yeah, yeah, get that out there. Yeah. Well, I am on a few social media sites. None of them are very big, so I'm trying to, like, limit my usage. So Mon Blue sky and Mastodon. And there's one that I've been playing around with called Pixel Fed, which is like Mastodon, but for, like, Instagram Y kind of stuff. So if you go to my website, Andy, wtf? There's links to all of that there. You can check that out. And I have a blog called Asterisms, which is Asterisms. Lol. My blog address. I'm trying to update that. Mostly not about pencil stuff, but. Yeah, that's where you can find us. Okay. Yeah, let's talk about. Let's thank our patrons. So big thank you to all the folks who support us at A$10 a month level or more. You can also do annual plans, which gives you a little bit of a discount. And that those people are Chris Berry, Mikhail Tuzikoff, John Scher, Ellen Dana Morris, Melissa Miller, Angie Aaron Bollinger, Ida Umphers, David Johnson, Tana Feliz, JAFX in the Midwest or JFX in the Midwest. And Sipe Krismetzkas, Mary Collis, Phil Munson, Valerie Drew, Tom Kely, Andre Torres, Paul Moorhead, William Modlin, John Capal, Capelli, Stephen Fali. Which, by the way, I need to get Stephen to tell me the actual pronunciation of his last name, because the three of us pronounce it differently from each other.

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