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But Johnny Gamble, you're such a wiggle worm. Hello and welcome to episode 211 of the erasable podcast. I think we are. Our podcast has as many episodes as there are miles in the John Muir Trail. I'm ask me why I know that. I'm Andy Welfle. I'm on hosting duty tonight. I'm eating chicken soup out of a stormtrooper helmet. I don't know what that means. Johnny made me put that. Made me say that. And I'm here today. Tim is. Tim is taking a break. Tim has some other stuff going on. So it's been a while and Johnny and I thought we would just hop on. So, Johnny, how are you?

Good. What's the reference to the stormtrooper helmet?

Yeah, we have these like the round white bowls.

Seems like the stormtrooper helmet would like, you know that saltiness of the stormtrooper sweat would be like kind of like show you broth so.

Yeah, true.

That's true. So we have kind of a short episode today. We realized it's been a while since we talked about some of the seasonal releases. So we're gonna. We're gonna add back in our tools of the trade since there's just two of us and talk about fresh points and just kind of go through some of the spring releases. Some new stuff going on. So. Yeah, Johnny, tell us about your tools of the trade.

I was gonna say that sounds like the most British TV show name I've ever heard.

I didn't watch it, but I'm familiar with it.

I haven't watched. Looks just like beautiful, like cinematography, but I've not seen it.

So you know your autobiography? You can do the audiobook.

But Johnny Gamba, you're such a wiggle worm.

Oh, I heard it was pretty violent.

That's probably a good idea.

Yep. I finished it on the, on the plane on the way to Florida, which I'll talk about.

Yeah. So I had read just. Just in the last few months, I had read the trilogy, the books it's based on, and there's some things that they just do really well. Like, I was like, I don't want to do any spoilers, but I was wondering how they would treat the whole thing with the Sofons, like those computers that kind of fold out from different dimensions. Did you. Did you watch the whole three body problem? Okay, so, yeah, in the. In the book, they. The way that they talk about it is just like in sort of this kind of abstract way. And the way that they describe it, like, it's almost indescribable. Like, it's almost hard to demonstrate that visually. And. Yeah, I thought that was really interesting. They did such a good job with that.

Yeah, he's great. So, yeah, he's a. He's a character. So the book, hopefully. I don't give anybody spoilers, but the books span, like 400 years. They basically kind of span the. The time it takes for the. The aliens to. To get to Earth because they have to travel at like, a certain, like, 100th of the speed of light. And his character kind of spans all of those decades. And they. They have lots of reason, like, centuries, and they have lots of reasons why. But, yeah, he's really great. The other interesting thing is John and I were talking about before the show, the. The kind of four main characters who are scientists or they kind of. They're kind of an amalgam. Well, first they split characteristics of the main character of the first book into all four of those people. Like the. The. The guy who was the student of the woman who, like, was a scientist who, you know, dies at the beginning, and then that woman who runs that nanofiber factory or plant is the same person. And yeah, it was a really interesting to how they just. Just combined and also kind of like split apart all these characters and also made them more international because, you know, everything is. Everybody was Chinese in the book.

He was in the movie Shang Chi, that. That Marvel movie.

Oh, and he was in the Doctor Strange movies, too.

Oh, okay.

Such so good at playing just like a kind of a hard bitten detective.

Yeah, I like that. Yeah. But so if anybody here is really into just like hard ish science fiction I, I think this is really good and it's. What I liked about the books a lot was that they're you know it's very China centric. It's written by just one of the most prolific Chinese sci fi authors and it just like covers a lot of things in just a different way than I think we usually see in western science fiction.

I don't know if they. I definitely, I know exactly what they're going to cover in having read the books what they're going to cover in the second season if they do. And I really hope that they do because they are far from done telling that story.

Yeah, I think you'll have time because. Because man things move slow.

Somebody, somebody told me that the. So there was originally a miniseries on in China that was very close to the book and somebody said that Hulu has or no Disney. I don't know the name of the streaming apps anymore. There's too many of them. Somewhere, Somewhere we can watch the, the Chinese miniseries.

So I'd be interested to kind of watch that and compare. Yeah, you'll. If you liked kind of that that first season I think the rest of the story I think you would really be into.

I think so. I mean you're get out. They converted you to Star wars, right?

We'll get you on Star Trek soon.

This conversation is at an end

Yeah, so kind of didn't like forgot this existed but Last year, our. Our friend Mark Kurlansky. He's not really our friend, but it came out in November, and Mark wrote. You know how he has books about, like, the social history of cod and salt and paper and so many things. I think he did one about milk. He did one about.

Yeah, he did one about onions. So I was expecting it just to be called onion, but it's called the Core of an Onion Peeling the rarest common food. Also, there's a bunch of historical recipes that he includes in there, which is pretty interesting. So just. Just starting it, I just kind of got past the first kind of intro where he just, like, throws in so many, like, references to onions and culture. And he like, spanning everything from, like, you know, Catholic monks who wouldn't eat onions because they were afraid it made you horny, all the way up to, like, people, you know, using onions to, like, balance body humors to, you know, people who would just, like, you know, eat. Eat an onion like an apple.

I've not gotten to that part yet, but he. I hope so.

A social history would not be complete unless he quotes Shrek. Oh.

Yeah. So, yes. So far, so good. It just feels very much like a Mark Kurlansky book. And, yeah, I learned a lot about onions. When I was chopping up an onion for dinner the other night, I was, like, thinking about that. So, yeah, he was talking about, like, just a lot of the ways, like, why onions make you cry and what's happening with those volatile compounds when they sort of like, mix in with the water of your. That are just sort of present in your eyes and kind of why that makes your eyes sting. So just like, you know, if you just cut an onion in half and then kind of, like, rinse it off really well, that really helps a lot to help you from crying. Oh, yeah, I gotta do that.

Yeah. It's like, I'm not crying. It's the onion chopping onions, I swear. And then my world, the last thing. Yeah. Started reading a interesting book called the Future by Naomi Campbell. And she wrote a really interesting book a few years ago called the Power, where, like, the women of the world develop, like, a superpower to, you know, shoot bolts of energy at men. And it just kind of, like, shifts power balances in society and things. And this new one is about three. Gosh. What's about three tech billionaires. One of them who runs a large shopping website. One of them who runs a computer company and one of them who runs a social network are all kind of like, in league to protect themselves for the end of the world, basically, like the coming social apocalypse. And it's kind of about that. There's like a survivalist YouTuber who kind of falls into this plot and yeah, it's. It's good. And it doesn't feel super off from where reality might go, so it's definitely, like, is going. Yeah, she fictionalizes a lot of it, but there's definitely some, like, archetypes that feel very, very apartment so definitely recommend that book. I'm trying to think if there's any other tv. I have. I've watched the first two episodes of Star Trek Discovery, the latest season, which is. Was very good. But I have. I'm very far behind. I was traveling for the, like, last week and the week before, and I'm definitely super behind on all my stuff, so.

Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, your primaries aren't till. I forgot. They're not till kind of later.

Oh, boy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not a huge Rob Zombie fan, but if it's a departure, maybe I would like that more.

Yeah.

Ish.

Yeah. Nice. Well, should we jump into fresh points?

It looks so good. Did you sell them?

Yeah.

Yeah.

In the show notes, Johnny put Hubba hubba in parentheses behind it. And for some reason, my brain read that as Hubba Bubba, like the bubble gum. And so I was immediately in my head, I was like, oh, it's a bright bubblegum pink.

Hey, let's sell these as new.

Okay. Mine. So, okay, so the week. The week that Johnny and Tim recorded that episode with Carol, which, by the way, was really good. Love loved hearing her talk. I was going to Orlando and to go in Florida to go to a conference. So I. And also my sister lives in Orlando and her family. So I went to this conference that was at a hotel on the, like, Disney park campus. And it was pretty bananas. It's a huge hotel, 1500 rooms. There's like seven, eight restaurants in this hotel. And there's like all this various, you know, there's buses and there's a ferry and there's all this way to like, get, to get to the various Disney parks, which is just a whole other experience. I went into the parks a little bit. I haven't been there since like the 80s, since I was like 6 years old. So it's been a long time. And it was. I'm not, I'm not a Disney adult, but I definitely like, appreciated just like the, the care and the curation of like, your experience that you have there. Like, I'm, I'm working on a new theory, Johnny, that like, people who are really, really into Disney really want, like, they really like it because it kind of offers almost like a, like an urban, like a dense urban experience without like the chaos and uncertainty that comes with urban experiences. Like, that's true.

Yeah. Cause really good public transit, there's lots of like, food vendors and especially when you go to Epcot, there's all these different, like, styles of a food kind of like close together and there's like all sorts of people and things are really dense and close together. And I think that people just, especially people who are live in the suburbs and maybe don't have access to that on a regular basis. Like, this is a way to. And of course the difference is, is, you know, you pay for it. Like at Disney is expensive. It's like usually not less. Unless you have like a pass or whatever. It's not usually not less than a hundred dollars to get into the park for a day. So, yeah, it's still working on that one. But it was, it was really fun. I had a good time. Saw my sister, hung out with my nieces. But one of the things that just really struck me so, you know, I have a press penny collection. Like anytime I see like a thing you can put a penny in two quarters into and crank, you can do it. Well at Disney, they are everywhere. So many press penny machines. And, and the, the thing that they do is so first of all, they all take credit cards. So you don't have to use. You don't have to put in your own quarters in your own penny. You can put in dollar bills or you can put in a credit card and a press penny. Like at a machine where you put in your pennies usually cost 51 cents. They cost a dollar? A dollar? Well, it's, you know, they provide the penny, so I guess it costs 99 cents each. But the thing, the thing where they got me was each of the machines offered like, like three or four or a certain amount, like certain number of. Of the variants. And instead of going to pick your variant, you can just be like, oh, yeah, give me all four for $3. And so that's what I did every time I encountered one. I got all of the pennies and my favorite was in. So in Epcot, that Disney park, there's like a whole thing where you go to different countries of the world and they have like, maybe a ride that's connected to it and some shops and some food and just like. Yeah. So I was in China and they had a press penny machine that for $10 you could get 12 pennies each one of the, like, the Zodiac characters and then there was some, like, Disney tie in to the Zodiac. So altogether I come back home and I'm like, I'm going to. I got 91 press pennies when I was in Disney.

So I probably spent, like, I bet I spent a good $80 just. Just on press pennies. So I don't know what I'm going to do about all these. I think I'm just going to kind of pick out the ones that I like and just kind of see if my mom and my sisters want any. So, so many press pennies.

Well, I can't, because once they, once you squish them together, like, come on,

I mean, it was once legal tender. Maybe I could just melt it down and use the copper for. For something.

I think so. And there's like a congressional mandate to make them.

Most pennies are mostly. Gosh, what is it? It's. It's not magnesium.

Zinc. That's it. Yeah, it's mostly zinc. And just like, you know, a tiny bit of it is copper, so makes. Makes it more squishable that way. But so many. So had a fun time. Was not really super paying attention to sort of like the stationary experience of Disney. Like, there were a lot of. There weren't a lot of, like, wooden commemorative pencils. What I was seeing more of were those, like, you know, Those pens that like go this kind of crappy stick pens that go up and then they're. They're kind of like bent in the shape of like mouse ears or something like that. There were a bunch of those.

Yeah. And they, they're not very well balanced. So. Yeah, I was also kind of looking a little bit for. Because I recall from before and this was again decades and decades ago, but those pen, those comm. Those memories commemorative pens where you like turn it over and there's like a little thing in water that slides up and down. Like, I, I think the main one was like, you know, ladies with clothes falling off doing that. But I, I recall there being a monorail one where you turn it and the monorail goes back and forth. Oh, cool. I really wanted one of those, but they don't, they don't. They don't have those anymore, so. Did not get that.

Really cool.

Yeah.

Yeah. So while I was in Florida, I. It was, it was over independent bookstore day. So I was looking on my. My handy dandy little blog post from Blackwing to see what. Where their independent bookstore day pencils would be. And so I went to the one that was in Orlando, the one bookstore, and yeah. Found a box and picked it up and. Have you, have you seen these pencils, Johnny?

They're really nice. They're blue. Um, they kind of have the same, if not the same, a very complimentary design to the ones last year where it was kind of, it was kind of arabesque, I think is the, the term. Um, it was red and kind of gold and so this one was blue, but a very similar pattern. So it seems like they're getting away from that kind of like very geometrical design for the first two. And so last year and then this year, which ironically. Weirdly not weird ironically, but coincidentally last year I was also in Florida when those came out, so. Oh, I picked some up in Miami. I'm not like that big of a Florida goer, but just, Just so happened to like go to Florida in May for the last two years. So I pick some of those up and yeah, they're really nice firm graphite. Just really, Just pretty nice looking. Yeah.

So that is. I haven't really been paying super close attention to A lot of the, like, limited edition black wings lately, except for the ones we'll talk about and these independent book store day ones. But, like, I'm still. Still down to pick up some bookstore pencils.

Yeah. Oh, you'll. I mean, go into the group and people are trading them, so.

All right. Should we talk about some of these spring releases? Sure, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I got those right in front of me. This is the volume 710, which is interesting San Francisco tie in. This is the Jerry Garcia pencil. And it is. The 710 is named after 710 Ashbury street which is. It marked the heart of the Enlightenment, an expression that pulsed through San Francisco in the 1960s. So definitely it's in the heart of the Haydash Barry, which is, you know, kind of the famous hippie part of town. Like Rolling Stones live there and Grateful Dead live there and all sorts of. All sorts of people. So I think, yeah, 710 Ashbury was where the. The Grateful Dead lived. So it's a cool house. A little plaque in front of it. But Jerry Garcia is. Was also an artist. I don't know if you remember Johnny from the 90s. There were a bunch of. I think they're still going. There's a bunch of neckties. Jerry Garcia neckties.

Yeah, I had a bunch of them. I was.

I went to a Catholic school where we wore neckties and I was obsessed. So I think I still have like three or four Jerry Garcia stand neckties. They were in the 90s. They were like 35, which was just extremely expensive for. Yeah, for anybody, but especially for like a high schooler.

Did you have some, like, keyboard ties like all the other band people?

Oh, of course you did. Somewhere I have a tie that has the four Star Trek captains on it. Kirk and Picard and Cisco and Janeway. I was definitely a cool kid, too.

I also embarrassingly had a. So I had those Jerry Garcia ties and I also had a Rush Limbaugh tie.

And not because I liked rushed Limbaugh anymore. But they look so cool. His wife, one of. One of his wives was an artist. And they.

They like, she designed Rush Limbaugh ties. And I was. I was too young to really, like, get why we didn't like Rush Limbaugh. So I just thought they were cool looking. So I. I did buy at some point somewhere. I still have a reverse limbo tie. And I'm just like, oh, geez. It's, as the kids say, cringe.

Oh, and you went to Missouri when you lived in Illinois?

Maybe it was the vast liberal. Liberal agenda.

That's true. So anyhow. Yeah. So I don't even know where it's going. Neckties. Gerosy and neckties. This blackwing features. We. I think everybody thought at first it was going to be tie dye because, you know, Grateful Dead. But it's. It's very colorful. But it's really a Jerry. One of Jerry Garcia's designs on there. So it's. It's still very colorful. It's probably the most kind of rainbowy. One of the most rainbowy kind of colorful ones they have. I don't know. Johnny, do you have these?

Okay.

So a few things. Like, it's a wrap, right? Like, this design is a wrap. And I know that it's really hard with many wraps as. As is with this one to get it, like a kind of more seamless, like, wrap on it. And it is. Oh, gosh, how do I explain this? So that there is a seam that you can see, and the seam is not uniformly positioned with the stamp with the imprint.

So I have a few of them where the, like, where it says Blackwing710 is like, right on the seam.

And again, like, I feel so stupid just complaining about that because it's like, just a dumb little thing. But this is a 30 box of pencils, so.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. And that's the thing. I don't actually know. I think this green is kind of like what's a good way to. It's. It's a. It looks like the green of like those more gritty erasers. Oh. You know, like the. The arrow like eraser caps that you can get for pens or pencils.

No, that's so great.

That's a good reference. I'm not familiar with that, but I will go look at it. Rabbit hole. I was. I was thinking sort of like a very, like, dentist green. Like, like that tooth polish, that mint tooth polish that they use.

Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah.

Very dental green. Yeah. But, yeah, the Minecraft spruce pens. Spruce green.

Yeah.

But these are. This is the soft graphite. So it's a nice. Nice dark, buttery, soft graphite. Which, you know, I. I think we. None of us, like, really goes for that pencil all the time, but I think it's always one to appreciate. I think Tim's a. Tim's a soft graphite. Like a soft black wing pain.

Yeah.

Yeah, we're stuck with this. But. Yeah, it feels nice, but it's okay. So the box, the little like, box at the bottom has finish curves and lines. Feral black eraser. Teal. They're saying this is teal. I guess it's kind of muted teal. And it's. And it does, I will say, like the teal that's in the. The painting that the design is based on. It's. It's. It's a very muted color palette. Like, everything's a little bit, like more sepia, a little bit more toned down. So it is very, very close to that teal that's in there. So it matches really well. Imprint white. And the graphite is soft. So that is the March 2024 volume 710 Blackwing.

Yeah.

Yeah. Compared to the Basquiat one. Yeah.

Yeah.

So, I mean, just like. Just like Beyonce and Jay Z. Right.

I like Buzzcap. Before he was cool. Before there were.

Yeah. And these black wings. I will say that the. The bright colors and the kind of abstract designs really, really go well with the field notes. Release that. Johnny, you. You should talk about.

Yeah. I was expecting something that was actually more floral, like. Like a little less abstract and floral. But, you know, this is. I think, designer is. The design is nice. Yeah.

Yeah.

What do you. How do you feel about the COVID

Yeah. I actually did not like the COVID I. That really. That just, like, flat gloss. Um, I'm just not just. I just don't like the feel of that. Like, I guess I like something I usually respond to the ones that have a little bit more texture to it.

Yeah. So if they used, like, a linen cover on this, I would have been really into that.

Yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Wow. I did like. You know, I do like a mixed pack. So they had one that was lined, one was blank, and one was. That was dot, grid, and I. Yeah, that was. Yeah, I do like it when they do that.

Yeah. Just like three smaller runs instead of one bigger run. I also liked. I thought that gray that they used on the inside was really nice. That gray color for the ruling.

Yeah. But you're right. Yeah.

The. I'm reading it now. The Domtar Lynx. 60 pound white.

Yeah.

I haven't tried a fountain pen in here. I should do that. I think it's fine for pencil.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. You know, when I started using recently, just because I did. Did some. Did some trading. Trading around and got some of the. I'm using a deadest print. Oh, do we. I can't remember. Did we talk about dead as print on the show?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe you should discuss that when we're done with Flora.

Should we start talking about the dead as printer? Are we sure. Anything we want to talk about with Flora?

Oh, man.

Yeah, you did.

You, you ordered them in? Like, because, I mean, Traplin's website is abominable. It's a. I think you could order in

I can't remember. Like, yeah, I think you could order just one pack, but you, you order them in or. No, maybe it was like two or three or six or something like that. Right?

Yeah, well, the thing I really like about them is just like, you know, whenever Draplin does, like, his own kind of factory flow release, it is always just, like, a little more extreme or over the top than, like, Kudal would do. And I really like the, the progressive distortion that the packs would have. So in each pack, there was one that was very kind of like straight field notes, logo cover, things. On the inside, there's one that was, like, a little twisted and one that was just, like, super distorted where. Just, like, it's unreadable, like the, the Draplin design company thing on the back and field notes and the insides are just unreadable. And it's cool because it's distorted, but it's, it's a foil press or foil stamp. So apparently, I mean, that was just. Must have been so hard to do to get the detail on, right?

And the thing. One of the things I love about just, like, people come up with their own sort of, like, lingo for this kind of stuff. And in the field notes group, they started calling this sneeze. So, like, some of them have a heavy sneeze, some of them have a medium sneeze, and some of them have no sneeze. And I just, I think that's so accurate because it just looks like somebody just, like, sneezed all over, like, wet ink.

I did a little bit of trading first. I, I, I want to toot my own horn here. So my friend Will, who, who I did the Dot Grid podcast with, he is, his name is on the COVID of the Louisiana State poster. Are you all right, Denny?

Are you okay?

Glad you're okay. So Will, Will's name is on the COVID of the Louisiana state poster because he helped Draplin like figure something out with. With Louisiana. So his name is real tiny on the front of the state poster and so he's been looking for a dead print of that state poster for like some time. And I. They. He's. They didn't do a dentist but they. The last. The debtor print there was one that had his name on it and so it also had the Tabasco logo on it which a lot of people really wanted to hoard. So.

I did a trade with the field nuts to get will a will fangied dead print. It's pretty, pretty pleased with that. But I. There were a bunch of deadest prints that had the head cuts from the Golden Gate Bridge poster and just a really lovely poster. I have it hanging in my office right now and I just like the colors that they use. So. Yeah, I currently am sitting on a bunch of Golden Gate Bridge Dennis print notebooks that I just really like. So I'm using one of the ones that are like the most heavily distorted. It looks, looks ridiculous, but it's really nice.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, no, it is heavy handed but.

I haven't been like super energized by like trading and collecting and all that from the stuff. And I kind of got into a little bit with this stuff. So I'm. I enjoyed it. That was maybe two months ago when it came out.

Well, I can tell you if any are sought after on the, on the Field Notes forums because I've talked to a lot of people.

Oh yeah, and his dad music festival ones. Oh, you have one with his dad?

Are you sure it's not Jerry Garcia?

Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Send me a picture of them. I would love to see what you have. Yeah, yeah. Any other various releases that we should talk about?

Oh, the Huddle journal. Yeah, it's. I, I did not pick up one of those.

Here's the, here's the thing about that is I like, it reminds me a little bit of those better help Internet ads that, like, are specifically to, like, for men. And it's just like, oh, I'll get in touch with her feelings, like, men can go to therapy too. And like, on one hand, it kind of rolled my eyes because I'm like, well, of course men can and should, in fact, should go to therapy. Um, but on the other hand, like, if, you know, if that's kind of what you need to do to get more medical therapy, like, good, good, Good for you. So this Huddle men's journal, I was looking at it and I was just reading through and it's a, it's a, it's a guided journal. And I don't think it's needs to be specifically for men. But on the other hand, you know, if this is what it kind of takes to get like, some men, this kind of football themed journal with all these guided entries and these very masculine colors, if that's what we need to get, like, more men to, like, write down their thoughts and feelings, like, maybe that's what we should so should have. So I kind of came around on that. I was kind of rolling my eyes about it a little bit first, but it's good.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Mm.

Yeah, that's really nice looking. Okay.

Oh, that did. That stand is really nice looking. It's on sale, Johnny.

A hundred dollars down from 120.

How many fountain pens can you have? It's like the motto of Johnny's. Johnny's life.

Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, the Huddle journals are nice. Those New York City squires are nice.

Yeah, I hope that, that, I mean it's something if you. I think we're just kind of deducing it because if you go look at that Huddle journal detail page, there is a pen that they're using in the kind of the product photos that looks familiar but different. Yeah, would love to. Would love to see that be a thing.

Yeah. So yeah, I think that's about it. From what I had on my plate. I. Yeah. Haven't been doing a whole after. After the Japan drip. I feel like I don't have any super interesting like stationary stuff happening. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. There's this one thing I have to like kind of complain about or show you that I.

Let me. So. Okay. Johnny, do you know what IA writer is?

Okay. So there's this app and I think it was originally just for Mac and iPhone but I think that there's maybe a Windows version too. It's this very minimalist, very good typography, European, like Swiss company word processing app. You could just like journal it. And it was very. It's like a minimalist app. Oh, well, they have released a notebook.

And like a, like a paper notebook and it costs $100.

Sorry. It costs $73 but after tax and shipping it's literally $100. And it's, it reminds me of those ones remind me of the name of the notebooks that were slightly gray and the lines were white.

White lines. Yeah, it's. It's basically a white lines notebook.

Oh, interesting. I wonder if this is like. I wonder if it's some sort of a tie in check out. I'll have the Lincoln show notes. Johnny. I just put the link in our thing. It is the most sort of like fussy, minimalist just notebook ever. I'm sure it's very, very nice.

Yeah. $73. What? Yeah. So if, if you are somebody who likes Iowider or likes just a very minimalist kind of design aesthetic, maybe this will be for you. Maybe I like this.

These are watermarked.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean I get. I'm sure that they like they. The notebooks are handcrafted. Our book binder will deliver them in batches.

Yeah, I'm reading the. Johnny, maybe you have to try one of these. Do you have to buy a 73 notebook now?

I think you're right.

Losing money if you don't buy one.

Well, is that on each page or is that on the COVID It looks like each page.

Yeah. Interesting.

It looks cool. I'm just like this thing is going to get dirty in a second. Oh yeah.

No IA is they make a very nice. I often use their word processing app if I'm just like writing something. They have a interesting. Like basically their version of PowerPoint too, which you know, you write an outline and it will convert it into slides for you. It's called IA Presenter. Use that a couple times. Um, yeah, just a. Just really nice software and it was just super interesting to me when they. When they released this notebook because I feel like it's an interesting evolution of it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, nobody, nobody except you uses Linux, Johnny.

Yeah.

There should be like a web interface for this so you can use it on Chromebook.

Oh, you can?

Okay.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

Yeah. All right. So interesting. Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, they've been learned yet. They've been making IA Writer, which I'm not sure, I think maybe stands for Information Architecture. Because that is what I think of when I hear IA and it is. I mean, it's been. I've been using IA Reader for almost 15 years now, so I know what it's like. Yeah, it's been around for a while. Yeah.

Yeah.

Should we wrap it up?

Yeah.

So, Johnny, where can people find you on the Internet?

Nice. I am @andy WTF. And this is the Erasable Podcast. And we are at erasable us. This is episode 211. And that is erasable us 211. You can get the recording and show notes and all that stuff there. And yep, we have a Facebook group. It is facebook.com group erasable. And you can find us on Twitter and Instagram and threads. Although I don't think we use Twitter much anymore. Instagram and threads at Facebook. At Erasable Podcast. Do you like our podcast? Most people like our podcast, but if you like our podcast, David will turn it off.