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Andy 0:00

Did you go, do you know who I am?

Johnny 0:02

Like, my name is Brad Dowdy.

Tim 0:05

Just sweep a table, like, off, like, everything off the table. Be like, I'm Brad Dowdy. Hello, and welcome to episode 194 of the erasable Podcast. It's April again. We got to another April. Congratulations, fellas. And that means that National Poetry Month is upon us tonight. After talking about our usual pencil and paper goodness, the things we've come across since we've last talked, we're each going to read three of our current favorite poems and discuss them a little bit. So. Hey, Andy and Johnny, My two. My favorite couplet. You two are my favorite couplet.

Andy 0:49

Aw.

Johnny 0:50

Are we AA or bb?

Tim 0:53

Whatever you want to be, man.

Andy 0:54

Jay, thanks. We're F you.

Johnny 0:58

F for funky.

Tim 1:01

We were in the car today after this, like, school function, and there was some guy from our area who was selling, like, at this school function, he was selling a kid's book that he had written. And he was a former. What did he say he was? He was some kind of, like, scientist. And in his retirement, he's been writing, like, poems, he said in his bio, just for fun. And he wrote this, like, children's book that is a poem about basically, the water cycle. But he has, like, illustrations with it. It was cute. And the kids were both read it out loud in the car, which is fun. And it got to the end. Henry said, I think this is an ab rhyme scheme. And I was like.

Johnny 1:38

And other things that nine year olds say.

Tim 1:40

I was like, oh, my gosh, that is awesome.

Andy 1:43

Does anybody remember Jack Perletzky, the children's poets? He wrote like, a poem book about dinosaurs.

Tim 1:49

No.

Johnny 1:49

He wrote a really good one about ogres that Charlotte and I used to love when she was really nice.

Andy 1:54

I like Jack Perlitsky. He had the one about the Ankylosaurus. It was clankety. Clank. Ankylosaurus is built like a tank. And I don't know why I remembered that. Just. Well, that's why all this time.

Tim 2:04

The power of poetry.

Johnny 2:08

He edited a really popular kid's poem anthology that I think is still in print. They had, like, the silliest little drawings. It was really delightful. And they had a whole section on the city, which I thought was awesome and unusual.

Tim 2:22

I like that this is maybe, like, getting ahead of things for our topic today. But I just put this in the chat. It reminded me of this Shel Silverstein poem. Stupid.

Andy 2:31

Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.

Tim 2:32

Some dummy built this pencil wrong. The eraser's down here where the point belongs. And the points at the top. So it's no good to me. It's amazing how stupid some people could be.

Andy 2:41

I remember thinking that was just the most hilarious stuff I've ever heard in my life.

Tim 2:49

All right, well, you guys just want to jump into it. And we're. Today we're going to do fresh points before our main topic, which is talking about some favorite poems here for National Poetry Month. So Andy, you want to start us out?

Andy 3:00

Yeah, I have a few of them this time around. So one of them last week I went to the San Francisco Stationary Meetup, which meets once a month. You guys have to come out for it sometime. It's so much fun. And it was during the Cherry Blossom Festival, which was huge in a lot of places, but is just pretty big in San Francisco. There's a pretty big Japanese population here. And the theme of the stationary Meetup this time around was spring cleaning. So it was a little bit of a swap meet. We all brought stuff to give out or to trade or like get rid of and of course pick up from other people. And I brought a bunch of pencils and a bunch of notebooks and that was really fun. I curated some little packs for people that was really fun. But I picked up a couple things. I found a few things. There's one. It's a. Have either of you ever tried a Mitsubishi Uni Star for Itoya kids?

Johnny 3:54

What? I've had a regular Uni Star.

Andy 3:57

Yeah, this is a Uni Star, but it's branded. Co. Branded with Itoya. I guess just to try to grab the bag here.

Tim 4:04

It.

Andy 4:05

It has some sort of a special formulation. I wish I read Japanese, but I. Somebody who goes to the pnup group who has been living in Japan for a little while picked up a bunch of these. And the lead is harder, but like it's a B. It has a B grade, but it's harder. Harder to break the lead. The way that it's. What it seems like they're saying on the back is that it has like the hardness, like it's hard to break, as if it were a 3 millimeter wide lead even though it's a 2 millimeter wide lead. So yeah, I'm going to read more about it and try to find a link and post it in the show notes. But it's a just a very. I'm sorry, you know what I'm looking at completely the wrong pencil. I've been using. This is so stupid. I've been using the Zuni Star for it Toya Kids, which is Great. Which I picked up from there. But I also picked up a different pack that involves this. This harder led. So no, two separate pencils I'm talking about. They're both blue. I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, this is just a regular old like uni star, but it's like this really nice rich blue with a yellow cap on it. Just really lovely. I like this pencil a lot. I also picked up. He put out. Well, actually Seth McCombs, who is a friend of mine, friend of the show, he put a Keras custom ink fountain pen version 1 on kind of on the swap table. So I picked it up. So brand new. My first ever Keras custom fountain pen.

Tim 5:27

Nice.

Johnny 5:28

What color?

Andy 5:28

It's orange. It's an orange steel color. It's version one. I think that they're doing version two now. I'm not sure what the difference is yet, but has a really nice. Oh, I'm guessing that's a fine tip on it. But I'm gonna. Gonna ink it up with. I think I'm gonna ink it up with Fuyugaki, which is my favorite. Sort of like spring summer ink.

Johnny 5:47

I've seen some really late knockoffs of that pen on Amazon recently.

Andy 5:52

Oh yeah, People have been knocking off Keras customs a lot.

Tim 5:57

Next in line.

Johnny 5:58

I held one of those right after they came out. Joe Lipo had one.

Tim 6:00

They're really nice. Cool.

Johnny 6:01

They look beefy.

Tim 6:02

I had one of those for a minute back. I mean, this was early days of the podcast. I mean, it was like right around when we started doing this. I had one for I think about a year and then I ended up trading it. But yeah, it's cool. I've got a lot of their pens I love. I still love the bolt. That's my. Oh, the bolt. Yeah, that like bolt action one. I love that thing.

Andy 6:21

So, yeah, looking forward to trying this guy out. Another thing I've been trying to do is I. So I started a new job today. I, after six years, moved on from Adobe, working at a. This is the most like San Francisco tech startup ever. I'm working at an autonomous electric car startup, so.

Johnny 6:41

Love it.

Andy 6:42

Yeah, it's. It's called Cruise. And yeah, just kind of will be doing what I did at Adobe, but there. Except I'm not going to be a manager, which I'm very excited about. Don't have to do performance reviews and promotions and hiring and firing and stuff. Excited about that. So all that to say that I have been rethinking my sticker and my Stationary strategy. Just because, like, new job, kind of a new start on this kind of stuff. So I have new stuff to sticker. I have my new laptop and I'm going to sticker up my lichtturm notebook. So I've been thinking a lot about what stickers to put on that. Do you guys have any suggestions? Like, Tim, you started a job not too long ago.

Tim 7:18

Did you.

Andy 7:18

Did you sticker things?

Tim 7:20

I haven't really because I was kind of in the middle of some stuff. I actually now I'm feeling like I should have because we started some new. I got some new notebooks. I got those paperage or whatever. Oh, yeah, they were called paper age or paperage. Started those and I should have stickered them up. But we have a in. In person thing happening in Baltimore soon. Johnny, talk again in a minute.

Andy 7:43

Oh, yeah, Correct.

Johnny 7:44

It's almost me.

Tim 7:45

We had some stickers made, so I'll slap some of those on there. And then we given some away. Not related to our place of work. So. Yeah, I hadn't really. Yeah, I'm afraid to put anything on the computer.

Johnny 7:56

Yeah, you want some Pence Revolution press sticker action? Yeah, I forgot that I bought.

Andy 8:01

Can you send me some new ones because I no longer have the laptop that I put that on.

Johnny 8:05

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. I found a 50 pack that I forgot I bought. I was like, I'm about stickers.

Andy 8:10

Thank you, sticker mule.

Johnny 8:11

Yeah, well, I went to order them. Like, okay. Yeah, actually, I was doing my taxes and that's a right off.

Andy 8:17

So I feel the same way as you, Tim. Whenever I start a new job and get a new computer, I'm just like. I'm afraid to put like. I have this nice brand, shiny new MacBook that's just like gleaming and I'm just like, oh, do I sticker it up? But I usually wait just like a month or so before I start putting stickers on it.

Tim 8:34

The last school. Actually, the last school I was at was the only one that ever gave me a computer. So when I was at that one and I waited until I saw everybody else doing it, and I was like, all right, we're doing this. And I slapped some John Prine stickers all over it. And then I started this one. But I'm working from home. I don't know what people are doing to their computer. So I'm not gonna. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna abstain. But yeah, I'll just start putting them all over my desk.

Andy 8:52

What you do is get one of those Little shells. You can get like a little case. And I did that at one point. Just put a. Put the stickers on that. Yeah. So rethinking that. Trying to think about, like, I'm probably going to be working a hybrid schedule, so maybe once or twice a week going to the office and I have a bunch of writing, is designing stickers and pencils. And I think that what I'm going to do to encourage people to, like, accept my meeting invites is tell them that I'm going to give them a sticker and a pencil. So I think that. I think I'll just bribe people with swag.

Johnny 9:23

Yeah, you could get some, like, I went to the meeting stickers. That's. Hello, That's a good idea. Hello sticker that just says, I don't know, I'm here.

Andy 9:30

I went to a meeting.

Tim 9:31

I went to and I went to Andy's stupid meeting, and all I got was this sticker.

Andy 9:37

That's a great idea. So, yeah, thinking about that. Also, I wanted to mention I am going to be in Florida next week and the week after for almost two weeks. And I'm interested in any. I'm going to post this in our group, too. But I'm interested in the recommendations for stationary. Cool stationary stuff in Miami and Orlando. Those are the two places I'm going to. There's only one pencil shot that I think I know of in Florida because the woman who runs it's in a group, and I think that's in Tampa. Are you familiar with what I'm talking about, guys? I'm not okay to look up the name of it. It's called, like, Seahorse.

Johnny 10:18

Oh, I've heard of Seahorse.

Andy 10:19

Yeah, Seahorse something, right?

Johnny 10:21

Holy crap.

Tim 10:23

What?

Johnny 10:24

No, the new. Sorry, the new independent.

Andy 10:25

Oh, yeah, I was gonna mention.

Tim 10:27

Yeah.

Johnny 10:27

Whoa. They're way off from the other ones.

Andy 10:29

Yeah. I'm gonna be in Florida during the independent bookstore day. And Blackwing always does a special dozen independent bookstore day pencils. And so I'm going to try to find a bookstore to something to go get that at. And yeah, it looks totally different than the other two years.

Johnny 10:43

Yeah, it looks like an antique, like, Islamic book.

Andy 10:46

Yeah. Yeah.

Johnny 10:47

That's really cool. Really cool looking.

Andy 10:48

I like the new direction.

Johnny 10:50

Ooh, yeah. Two in a row. Going to have to get some of those.

Andy 10:53

Yeah. So never been to Miami before. And I've been to Orlando a bunch of times. My sister lives there. But this is going to be. I'm going to try to do a few fun things instead of just sitting around My sister's house. I mean, not. That's not fun, but I'll do that. Last thing I was going to mention is we're kind of interspersing some product reviews in with this because there's been a bunch of stuff released since we last recorded. And the thing that I'm going to talk about is the new Baron Fig Draft Squire. It's a collaboration with the author, Roxane Gay, who wrote Bad Feminist and Just a Bunch of Things. And this is really cool. It's a matching Squire to a confidant that they released last year. If you guys remember that. It was like a kind of a guided journal about drafting drafts, right. Short stories or essays or what have you. And it was kind of like a dark blue and pink branded. Branded thing. And this pen is really cool. It's. It's kind of a dark blue. You guys have one, right?

Johnny 11:53

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Andy 11:54

It's a dark blue. It has sort of like a full wrap of. Oh, it looks. It's not actually legible, but it looks like just somebody just drafted. Just handwrote something, drafting it. And it just has that sort of like stacked sheet of paper logo that the confidant draft has. And then it says Baron Fig X Roxane Gay. So it's a really attractive one. It's a blue. I would say it's a darker blue than like the arrow 404 1. Do you guys like this?

Johnny 12:25

It's almost like. It's like a blurple. When it came out, I think I was like, oh, it's kind of purpley like the book. I really like this.

Andy 12:33

They say that there's nothing. No words that rhyme with purple. It's.

Johnny 12:37

I mean, I didn't invent that. I read it in an ink review.

Andy 12:39

Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, Yeah, I like that.

Johnny 12:43

Yeah, I like how it feels very grippy.

Andy 12:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim 12:47

It is sort of a. Like a byproduct of the type. It has like a little. Just a touch of like an extra grip to it. Love this one. I love the look of it. It's like. Like a navy blue that's leaning towards purple or something.

Johnny 13:01

I would. The only thing is it would have been really cool if it matched the ink.

Tim 13:05

But I thought about that navy blue ink or something like that, which I didn't really.

Johnny 13:10

Blue.

Andy 13:11

They're really bound by those refills. I wish that they would. Or even just put a blue ink in there in general. Right. But yeah, I think it seems like they default to black pretty much all the time. But yeah, but yeah, it's up at the Bearing Fig website. I think that you can buy it in a pack with the Squire. But I'm.

Johnny 13:30

Oh, neat.

Andy 13:31

Yeah, I'm definitely like. You can also buy it independent from the Squire. It looks like it matches the blue, the blorpel of the journal really well.

Tim 13:38

And they get navy blurple.

Johnny 13:41

I'm never sure when they put stuff out, like are they keeping it in stock. But it seems like the writing book is along with the other ones, the themed books, and that it's going to stick around.

Andy 13:49

They're categorizing this as a limited edition, so I'm guessing they're just going to just sell it until they're out.

Johnny 13:56

But not the book or the Notebook.

Andy 13:59

Oh, good question.

Johnny 14:00

I hope not. I mean, I really like that book. That's one of my favorite ones they've done.

Andy 14:03

Yeah, yeah, that's a good question. I don't know about the book. Yeah, yeah, it looks like the confidant. It's under the guided journals category. So yeah, they're not saying whether or not it's going to stick around or not. Yeah, so.

Johnny 14:19

And by the by, they have seafoam green confidants right now.

Andy 14:22

Yeah, I used that.

Johnny 14:24

The hell.

Andy 14:25

I used that for my last one. It was really good.

Johnny 14:29

Oh, I didn't even know. I thought it was new. Think they've cycled through some neat colors recently, like just very quietly.

Andy 14:38

Yeah, yeah, they don't do a lot of talking about their color releases. I really like that lagoon one. I have not picked up one of those yet. That kind of like teal.

Tim 14:49

Oh my.

Andy 14:50

It's sold out right now, but it's a really good one.

Johnny 14:55

No, the website says it's on. It's listed separately with a bunch of other colors. Yeah, maybe it's a glitch.

Andy 15:03

Their website, man, is like, I appreciate how slick it is, but it's real hard to find categories of stuff sometimes.

Johnny 15:10

Oh, that's what it is. They're out of the jack grid but they have Blank enrolled.

Andy 15:13

Oh, I see, I see.

Johnny 15:15

Hey, that color is worth switching up your format.

Andy 15:18

Yeah, yeah, that seafoam green was on sale right now for 15 bucks. You must have it, Johnny. So, yeah, thank you to Baron Fake for sharing this with us. It's a cool collab. They've done collaborations both with Roxane Gay and with her wife, Debbie Millman. Now the Debbie Millman one is that if anybody remembers the askew confidant, which was. Oh yeah, that hand drawn ruling one. That was really Fun. I think I've told this story before, but I was at a design conference that she was speaking at, and afterwards I got her to autograph my askew and she looked at me and she was like, you're the first person who has ever brought one of these up to get autographed.

Tim 15:53

That's. I mean, like, those two notebooks are like two of my absolute favorite Baron collaborations. And then this pen just like right there with it. I mean, gosh.

Andy 16:04

So adding to my collection of too many. Too many Squires. But I don't know if that's possible. You can't have too many Squires.

Johnny 16:12

You use them all.

Andy 16:13

Yeah, I use our erasable number two Squire the most.

Johnny 16:17

I do too.

Tim 16:18

Yay. Yeah.

Johnny 16:20

I'm number one Squire.

Tim 16:23

Nice. I pretty much always have one of some kind with me that has that easy flow refill. The ballpoint. I love the one that it comes with, but I also just. The ballpoint, like, it's a little like more well behaved just with some papers and stuff. But I almost always have one of

Andy 16:41

those with me who makes that easy flow ballpoint.

Tim 16:43

This is schmidt Easy Flow 9000. I think it is. Yeah. Easy Flow 9000. Oh, right. I get it in medium. They come in light. I've been curious. They have a jet stream refill. I don't know if we've ever talked about this. It's in the Parker style, which is pretty awesome. But they're just like the Schmidt easy flow. I can get like it's like 12 of like 12 bucks for like six of them or something. And the. But this Jetstream ones are still a little silly. Like it's like seven bucks for one or something like that.

Andy 17:13

Yeah.

Johnny 17:17

Cool.

Andy 17:17

That is it for my fresh points. How about you, Johnny?

Johnny 17:22

So how about before I do my other ones, let's talk about the new field.

Tim 17:25

Yeah.

Johnny 17:26

Which are, if you haven't seen them, they're two. Two packs of their larger format books. And I forgot the name of the artist, but they have very intricate line drawings of. One pack is New York and Chicago. No, one pack is New York and Miami. One is Chicago and la. And they're full of like Mohawk super fine for sketching. And they're so freaking cool. But like soon as Charlotte seldom she wanted them and luckily we were in Boston, which is a place where you can just go buy field notes. And the subscriber extra was a pencil. Cool. But also a pen. I mean a pen, a big fat pink eraser which was very tickled by, was kind of cute. But yeah. Did you guys pop yours open? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andy 18:10

I like the. Just the texture of the COVID a lot. Like, it's a lot grainier than they usually do.

Johnny 18:17

Yeah. And more related to our podcast, they were pimpin Blackwing colored pencils to go with them.

Andy 18:22

That's right. They're selling them as like a pack. Right? Like you can buy a field notes bag with the Blackwing pencils in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Johnny 18:29

That's really cool.

Andy 18:29

That's first collab that I've seen that they do. They've done together.

Johnny 18:33

Yeah. They were like our friends at Blackwing. I'm like, what?

Tim 18:35

Yeah.

Johnny 18:37

This is gonna be another thing.

Tim 18:38

Awesome.

Johnny 18:38

Can we hang out?

Tim 18:39

Yeah.

Andy 18:40

You guys?

Johnny 18:42

Yeah. I don't want to spoil it, but the new Blackwing pencil goes with some stuff Field notes has done in the last couple years.

Andy 18:48

Yeah, that's true.

Johnny 18:49

So I wonder if that'll pop up as a package deal.

Tim 18:53

I gotta say that the this edition, their belly band game is like beyond cool. Mention that like just the pre colored belly band that like lines up and

Andy 19:04

the two backs that I got line up really well and everybody's. That I've seen lines up really well. So they had to like just before they shrink wrap it, just like line up with those belly bands every time.

Tim 19:14

Yeah, yeah. I mean that's like.

Johnny 19:16

That is.

Tim 19:16

That's nice.

Johnny 19:17

Attention to detail.

Tim 19:18

Amazing. Yeah.

Johnny 19:21

I mean, the. They have a new subscriber box too out. I don't know. Did you guys see that? It's called like junk drawer or something. It's colored, covered with pictures for like stationary items and utility knives. I'm like, this looks like my desk, but I think like it's out now. So if you're a subscriber, you get it next.

Tim 19:38

So I'll get mine in the summer. Yeah.

Johnny 19:40

I'm stoked to check it out. Not that I keep them, but I want to look at it. Yeah. So other than that, I was in Boston two weeks ago, which is a very good stationary city and where you go for spring break. Of course.

Andy 19:54

Everybody goes to the shores of Boston for spring break.

Johnny 19:56

Yeah. Not sure. Florida. Yeah. It was like going back in time. We got off the train, I was like, oh, it's winter here in Baltimore. Everything's green. We've passed most budding trees. But I of course went to Bob's Slate and now that I like fountain pens meant I got to visit the pen counter. And I'm trying not to collect Kaweco Sports, they've come out with some colors recently. That I really liked. I got the coral and the cyan, but then they came with teal. The teal.

Andy 20:24

I'm trying not to collect Kaweco Sports, so I only bought 20 of them.

Johnny 20:28

I was teasing the lady. Rosie was with me at the pen counter. I was like, she has more of these than I do. Rosie started giggling like, she does. I'm serious. But, oh, well, no, I tied her because I got the teal one, and it's so pretty. It's really dark, and it has a little bit of shimmer in it that you can't see unless you're, like, under a desk lamp. But it's really cool. And the thing that annoys me about Kaweco is when you pop that ink, that nib out, you don't know what you're going to get. So, like, this one needed a tweak. And after I tweaked it, it's like the smoothest Kaweco nib I have. Like, finally, this. I'll do this. But I forgot to pick up a clip, go on Amazon and pay, like, way too much money. But what they also had there, which I did not resist, is the Leuchtturm pen, which I am not going to try to butcher the name of. Have you guys seen this? It's like, it's based on some old design from someone. And you twist the top and the refill comes out. And it's. It's machined aluminum, so it's very light, but it's metal. And that's just one pen. Yeah, you can get the ballpoint or the gel. It's really nice. And wasn't that expensive? I'm surprised. But.

Andy 21:37

And they come in matching colors, too. Notebooks.

Johnny 21:40

They make a lot of colors. I got black because it matches everything. But they were. Andy and I were talking about this. They have. I mean, the refill looks like the one from a Baron fig, but they're very specific about theirs being made in Japan and having a ceramic ball and how it writes well at any angle. And it's supposed to be expressive, almost like a fountain pen. What? And that's a lot to live up to. But it writes very nicely. And they make a pencil now, too, which I didn't see or I would have bought it. But yeah, we also went to the bougie store, which is like, I guess, supply shortage. They're like, out of everything.

Tim 22:18

It's funny, I thought you said bougie store.

Andy 22:20

Bougie store.

Tim 22:22

Well.

Johnny 22:23

Well, every time I go there, they're restocking the pens. So they have these like. I guess it's a cart full of cubes and the cube opens and it's like 500 aqua blue pens. Like, God, that's like pornographic. Even though that's not my favorite color pen. But yeah, they. On the flip side of where they keep pens, I think it's at most of their stores they have all the little stationary doodads. Half of them are gone. They don't have the little utility knives. Kind of sad face. But it's nice that it's still there because we don't have one of those in Baltimore, obviously.

Andy 22:54

They closed all of the Mujis on the west coast of the US What?

Johnny 22:59

Really?

Andy 22:59

Yeah, the two in the Bay Area. Gone.

Johnny 23:03

Crap.

Tim 23:04

Yeah.

Johnny 23:04

I would have picked you up some stuff I bought for myself. Exactly. One pen. A gray jail pen.

Tim 23:11

Yeah.

Johnny 23:11

And that's all I got. How about you, Tim?

Tim 23:15

Yeah, I'm going to start out with some. I'm going to get into this and start out hot on something that was big news around here that my kids were very excited about. We had a birthday party which my kids age. It seems like all of their friends are born within the same three weeks. So we have birthday parties every 25, 30 minutes, something like that. It feels like we have one birthday

Andy 23:39

party nine months before. That day was quite something in Tennessee.

Tim 23:42

It was a wild time.

Andy 23:43

There was that one party that we don't talk about.

Tim 23:46

Yeah. But he's a really good friend of mine. He listens to this podcast. Johnny and his kid had a birthday party and it was like a Harry Potter themed birthday party. And they found these just like awesome pencils that looked exactly like a Harry Potter wand.

Andy 24:02

Oh, wow.

Tim 24:03

And they had like fashioned them so that like you couldn't. I could. When Henry got it, I was like, oh, cool, it's a tiny little wand. But. And Lila had one too. But they even like taper it at the end and so I didn't even notice that it was a pencil. And they have it like sort of painted or dyed brown on the outside, but it essentially is like a mini jumbo pencil that has like a wand handle at the end. I'll send you guys a picture of it, but I just thought it was awesome. So I haven't followed up with him to like find out where he got it. But yeah, it was pretty cool. I see a link. Is this. That is it. That's the one.

Andy 24:34

Oh, wow.

Johnny 24:35

They're only 10 bucks.

Tim 24:37

Yep, that's the one.

Johnny 24:38

They write pretty good.

Tim 24:40

Yeah, pretty good. I'M writing with one right now.

Andy 24:42

It's.

Tim 24:42

I mean, they're on the harder side, but not like terrible.

Johnny 24:45

But.

Tim 24:45

Yeah, those are. That's it. And they were. They're pretty cool. Especially if you're kids. I mean, especially.

Andy 24:51

You can also get broom pencils. What I have those look kind of crappy. Somebody in the suggested thing in Amazon above that.

Tim 25:00

Oh, yeah, yeah, I see it. Yeah, I see it. Yeah, I think they did the. There's the option that gives you like the. There's like the pencils plus the glasses. I think they did that because they all came on with Harry Potter glasses. So pretty awesome.

Johnny 25:14

I mean, so I guess you could clean your desk with it.

Tim 25:17

Is it a working broom, too? No way.

Johnny 25:21

So this wand pencil looks like the billy club that my father had in Vietnam when he was a military policeman.

Andy 25:28

You can also use it if you want to have your Vietnam themed.

Tim 25:32

You can use it in the shower, you can use it in the bathtub. You can use it upside down. There's a throwback to an old episode. All right, so now that we've gotten past that in ports. Important piece of news with a pencil wand. New Blackwing. So we alluded to this. We were talking about that field notes and Blackwing collab. Yeah. So they have new Blackwing edition, the Blackwing 20, which mine are on the way. I don't have them in hand yet because I'm not a subscriber anymore. But they did a D and D themed pencil.

Johnny 26:01

Officially it's tabletop games.

Tim 26:03

Tabletop games themed. Sorry. Like it says on there was. I like chess, mancala and Senate. Yeah, that's why it comes with a 20 sided die.

Andy 26:13

Yeah.

Tim 26:14

Yeah. Because you know, when you're playing chess, you know what you need a 20 sided die. I do.

Johnny 26:21

I'm not good at chess for my

Andy 26:24

rook,

Tim 26:27

but a very cool pencil. I am very excited to get these in. It's got that. What do you call that pattern that's on it? It's like a. Oh, polyhedron. There it is. Yeah. Polyhedron design inspired by the gaming dice in the Subscriber Extra, which I guess I'm not getting sad, but is D and D dice. I say sad, I don't play D and I don't plan on ever playing D and D. I've talked before about how I love listening to D and D podcasts.

Johnny 26:53

Oh, it's a. I like to listen

Tim 26:55

to other people play it.

Johnny 26:56

Ecosahedron. It's a 20 sided die.

Tim 27:00

Yeah, Ecosahedron. Okay, so each pencil features polyhedron Design, but ecosahedron. Okay, all right, all right.

Johnny 27:07

Maybe it's iko. I can't pronounce things.

Tim 27:09

I was assuming when they said it was tabletop games, I was like, okay, so this is for, like, scoring uno. That's cool. They, like, teamed up with Uno and then I got

Johnny 27:18

phase 10 subscriber extra is the wild card.

Tim 27:21

Oh, that'd be awesome.

Andy 27:22

One of the little details I think is really cool about this particular one is I don't think they really talk about it, but the. So the ferrule is gold, but they put a black clip on the eraser, so there's just like this little peak of black that matches the black barrel. It's funny, it seems like consistently once every year and a half or so, Blackwing does a black pencil. And consistently people just like that design a lot. So. Yeah, well, yeah.

Tim 27:48

And they managed to do something a little bit different each time, which is cool. And I saw my band played a gig on Friday and we played at a place, this really awesome place in Johnson City here that's called Mulligan's Gaming Pub. And it's an Irish pub crossed. And it's huge. I mean, it's like, way bigger than you think it should be, but it's an Irish pub and restaurant mixed with a super nerdy board game store. It is awesome. And it's, like, big. They have a good stage and good food. It's great. So we just. And so when I was there, I like, mentioned this to him. I was like, you might want to start selling these while they've got them, because I think your would freak out for these. But yeah, it's really. It's a really cool place. You go in, they've got, like, a stage, they have an Irish pub and like, a restaurant, but then the walls are just lined with, like, really intense, like, awesome, nerdy board games. And if you buy food, then you can play the games and they sell all the, like, stuff.

Andy 28:43

Can I get a sticker of your band?

Tim 28:45

We need to make one.

Andy 28:47

You do? What's your band's name?

Tim 28:48

The Minor Leagues.

Andy 28:49

The Minor Leagues.

Tim 28:50

Okay.

Andy 28:51

Oh, you should make some Ebbets field hats.

Tim 28:54

Well, yeah. Well, I'll get right on. All of our 17 Instagram followers will love that. Minor Leagues. Minor Leagues Tennessee. I think that's what it is, but I don't even remember.

Andy 29:07

But.

Tim 29:08

But anyways, we had a lot of fun until I mentioned these to the folks that work there, because we played there a couple times. It's like, you guys should check these Out. And they seemed interesting.

Andy 29:17

Yeah.

Tim 29:17

So I think. Yeah, this is a really good edition. I'm very excited to get these in.

Johnny 29:22

Yeah. When I was at Bob Slate, they had a lot of singles of stuff. And the lady was working at the pen counter was like, did you get the new Black Wing? And I was like, oh, yeah, I got mine subscriber pack with the dye. And she just looked at me like a subscriber pack. Oh, man. You're like, yeah, embarrassed in the nerd store.

Tim 29:38

I am subscribed to this and you're illegally selling them one by one.

Johnny 29:42

Yeah, they had ones all the way back to the comic book and coffee ones. I should have texted you guys. They had dozens of the coffee ones. Crap.

Tim 29:51

I think John or Andy, you sent me a couple of those. So that's.

Johnny 29:55

They also had singles of the blue and red. The new ones that I forgot to pick up.

Andy 30:00

I forgot about the coffee ones. Geez. The gold ones.

Tim 30:02

Yeah.

Andy 30:03

I couldn't remember even what.

Tim 30:04

Yeah. When you think coffee, you think gold. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Andy 30:09

Biggest copper. Copper still.

Johnny 30:11

Well, that's what hipsters think of that. See, through coffee. They drink. Damn millennials. I'm sitting here with some very dark French roast in a very big black cup.

Tim 30:25

All right, I need no more Put hair in chest. Put hair in chest.

Johnny 30:30

It's making my chest hair turn gray.

Tim 30:35

Way ahead of you there. Yeah. Okay.

Johnny 30:37

On coffee.

Tim 30:40

All right, next thing is Baron. Another Baron Fig squire that we got like, I mean, like back to back. We got him because it's been. I mean, it's been a few weeks since we've made an episode, but like right after one, and then like a couple weeks later we got the Roxane Galen. But the other one is the. An all new form, the Baron Fig Oracle. This new limit, I guess limited edition squire. It is limited edition, right? Yeah. Because they hadn't decided to keep the shape around. But it is a. What do you call it? They're revisiting a previous theme that they did on their pencil and it is hexagonal and it's the same kind of design. You can roll it and make some sort of like predictions. You're like magic eight ball pencil or magic hold yours yet? Magic. Of course I have. Yeah. It's a magic magic.

Johnny 31:32

I'm like, this pen is so pretty.

Tim 31:34

I'm not rolling this magic six ball.

Andy 31:37

Yeah.

Tim 31:38

Trying to think of six sides. Magic six ball. But yeah. And then this is my. So noticeably. It is not the normal Baron Fig Squire shape that people sort of take. Umbrage with because of it just rolling out the boot. We've talked about like, oh man, if it had a clip, but also, I mean if it had a clip, that would sort of ruin things, I guess. It's just such a good looking pencil or pen. But this one. And I'll do the sound effects here. The magic thing about this one, that was the sound of me dropping it on my desk and it not rolling.

Andy 32:12

What new technology.

Tim 32:14

Yeah, it's like the opposite of inventing the wheel where you're like putting flat sides on it. I mean, so it's like I'm not like making fun because I think this looks amazing. It's got this sort of like whatever we call it, like gunmetal slate gray kind of color to it. And this really pretty looking. It looks like a Duracell battery. Like a six sided Duracell battery with a bunch of like prediction language and spades and hearts on the side. But it writes good like they always do. But just that factor is. Just makes a huge difference. I've used this one more than I've used a lot of others. At least in the first couple weeks that I've had it. So what do you guys think of this one? Love it.

Andy 32:54

It's. I was trying to figure out how that shape would translate to a Squire, but yeah, I like. It feels really good. I mean it's a really sharp hex, but it's a. It's bigger than a pencil is. So.

Tim 33:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andy 33:09

What is it like the size of like a semi jumbo or something like that?

Tim 33:11

Probably. It's definitely a fatter shape. So like those, the sharp hex. Because I've. I'm the first one here to like whine about sharp hexes and because of my delicate musician's hands, that's actually the opposite of what they should be. Maybe I'm not playing enough, but. But yeah, but it works and it's really comfortable and I really love this thing.

Andy 33:31

Yeah.

Tim 33:32

Yeah.

Andy 33:32

It feels really good.

Johnny 33:33

Yeah. I thought it was going to be fatter like from the pictures, but it's like the same size as a regular pen.

Tim 33:39

Ish.

Andy 33:41

I really hope that they keep this shape around a little bit. Like I. I mean if ever we do a second erasable Squire, I can definitely think of some things to do with that.

Johnny 33:51

So is this the only Squire since ours where the part that you twist is a different color than the barrel?

Tim 33:57

Oh, it's a good question.

Andy 33:58

Have they ever done it before?

Johnny 34:00

I don't know.

Tim 34:02

Not like publicly. Maybe they might have Because I feel like if we've made private ones, they probably made ones for other people. I don't keep up with like the collector market or whatever.

Johnny 34:12

Yeah, that was a really nice touch. That was copper or whatever color that's supposed to be.

Tim 34:16

Yeah. Really good looking. So like two like home runs, I think.

Andy 34:20

Yeah.

Tim 34:21

From Baron's Egg. So thank you for letting us take a look at these because these are really awesome.

Johnny 34:28

Did you guys get the Earth Day one last year?

Tim 34:31

I didn't.

Andy 34:32

What color was that?

Johnny 34:34

Like a really gorgeous blue.

Andy 34:36

No, I don't think I picked that one up.

Johnny 34:38

So if anyone listening did and you want to part with it for like

Tim 34:41

money or trade lifetime supply of notebooks.

Andy 34:44

If you want say 30 Levenger true writers, he.

Tim 34:49

He can spare a quarter of his collection.

Johnny 34:51

Yeah, I think that's like half man. Just my doubles. It's like five. That's not even a joke. All right. Yeah, they so unrelated. They just came out with four new lavender tree writers that are the elements but not as fountain pens. My. My bank account was happy, but I'm not.

Tim 35:14

Yeah. Say. I don't know how you could survive that. All right, cool. Well, that's it for me. So let's get into main topic. We're talking about poetry. It is National Poetry Month. We're going to do another episode coming up related to poetry. But we thought it'd be fun to share some of our favorite poems right now. So Andy, do you want to start us out and just like maybe start with one that you picked and we'll just go from there?

Andy 35:42

Yeah, I. This is not any sort of. I just picked three. And this is just sort of a random assortment of different poems that I like just for various. For various reasons. And I realized that I. I know just a few different people, just really talented poets like. Like Johnny, your sister in law, Kiki Petrosino is just such a good poet. I have a friend from Fort Wayne, Brett Elizabeth Jenkins Jenkins, who is such a good poet and she was actually a couple different times featured in the Sun. Some of her poetry was. And she. Her poems are very narrative driven. Like they have a lot of story in them and it almost seems like a little bit of a slightly rhythmic just like short story or speech or essay or something. And they're always. They're usually kind of funny. Sometimes they're bittersweet. But this is best example like best exemplifies that. It's called Almost Cha Cha and it's from. It was printed in the sun in 2021. So I'm going to read this to you. I tell people that when I was born, my mother was on drugs and so she named me Brett. But what I don't tell them is that she almost named me Charlotte and wanted to call me Cha Cha. My almost name seeps with sugar and sequins. A dancer with a nicotine patch slapped over a half sleeve tattoo of a big tittied mermaid with a Fu Manchu. If I were Cha Cha, I swear to God, I'd have had all the boys in my sixth grade class smoking Parliaments with me under the bleachers. Ryan Goldstein would have never knocked up, knocked the books out of my hands and the girls would have lined up at my locker to get a look at my new Chuck Taylors. My mama would have wanted to rename me in high school when I started going God knows where at two in the morning with Jason Wheeler. Knocking back Miller highlifes and throwing the cans at speeding trains. Cha Cha is my id. The girl in the purple dress at the funeral. The hot lipped, Eff you very much, fast talker selling fake IDs out of the back of her pop up camper. In my dreams, I'm her. A goddess in ruin. A red lipstick denim jacket. Pool shark with a taste for whiskey who don't take no crap, who lets the cares of this world slip through her hands like air, like dust, like something impossible to hold. That is that one.

Tim 38:03

Oh, that's good. Yeah.

Johnny 38:05

Yeah. I have a child named Charlotte.

Andy 38:08

You should call her Chacha.

Johnny 38:11

People call her Sharsha.

Andy 38:12

Sharsha.

Johnny 38:13

Close. Sharshar.

Andy 38:14

Sharshar.

Johnny 38:15

That's a good one.

Tim 38:17

Yeah.

Andy 38:20

Cool. Johnny, how about you?

Tim 38:22

Sure.

Johnny 38:22

So the first one I picked is from one of my favorite writers, Michael Andanshe. And he's more well known as a novelist, even though he writes way more poetry than novels. And I know people that don't like the English Patient because they say it's too poetic, which I think is a silly statement, but his poetry is really good. So in one of his books, he mentions someone who is a cinnamon peeler. And how, like, if that's your job, you cannot get the smell off you, no matter what you do. So I don't know if this poem came before or after that book, but this poem is called the Cinnamon Peeler. If I were a cinnamon peeler, I would ride your bed and leave the yellow bark dust on your pillow. Your breasts and shoulders would reek. You could never walk through markets without the profession of my fingers floating over you. The blind would Stumble certain of whom they approached. Though you might bathe under rain gutters, monsoon here on the upper thigh is the smooth pasture neighbor to your hair or the crease that cuts your back this ankle. You will be known among strangers as the cinnamon peeler's wife. I could hardly glance at you before marriage, never touch you, your keen nosed mother, your rough brothers. I buried my hands in saffron, disguised them over smoking tar, helped the honey gatherers when we swam. Once I touched you in water and our bodies remained free. You could hold me and be blind of smell. You climbed the bank and said, this is how you touch other women. The grass cutter's wife, the lime burner's daughter. And you searched your arms for the missing perfume and knew what good is it to be the lime burner's daughter, Left with no trace, as if not spoken to in the act of love, as if wounded without the pleasure of a scar. You touched your belly to my hands in the dry air and said, I am the cinnamon peeler's wife. Smell me.

Andy 40:06

It's kind of cheap to me.

Tim 40:08

To me. Thanks. I like it.

Johnny 40:12

Yeah, I sweat. Link in the show notes has a very good reading by Michael and Donche of it, which is awesome. He's getting really old, so sad face.

Andy 40:21

Yeah.

Tim 40:23

He's leaving a lot behind though. Yeah. Prolific dude.

Andy 40:30

How about you, Tim? Nice.

Tim 40:31

So do it. I'm taking this a little different direction because. And I don't mean to make light of things but just we. And we're going to talk about this I think more in the next episode. But so I. This was like a few weeks ago when I did this. But actually before I even get there, I want to mention something. Let's put this in the show notes. So I've talked about Maggie Smith before who's a pretty like well known poet these days, which is kind of seemingly an oxymoron or something that she's a well known poet like. But she's like she became viral from this poem called good Bones that she wrote which is a really incredible poem which I'm going to read. I'm kind of cheat and read that one real quick. But she has a substack that I started following. It is fantastic and it is called for dear life and she actually just came out with a memoir that just came out this week that's called you could make this place beautiful and I recommend picking that up. But she on her substack and I'll put the link in there because I think it's still available as Like a free, free post. She has a post that's called poems that make you glad to be alive. And so she wrote that when she, in like 2017, she was like going through this really difficult time in her life. She was just going through a lot with her family and her husband, he had little kids. But anyways, she decided that she was going to start compiling poems that made her glad to feel alive, like glad to be alive. And so she has this really incredible list of poems and she's linked to a bunch of them, so I recommend going there. And she linked as many as she could for the post. So check it out. Check out the, those poems. But her poem. Yeah, yeah, I'll read this one. So this is Good Bones by Maggie Smith, which is pretty incredible. Life is short Though I keep this from my children Life is short and I've shortened mine In a thousand delicious ill advised ways A thousand deliciously ill advised ways I'll keep from my children. The world is at least 50% terrible and that's a conservative estimate Though I keep this from my children. For every bird there is a stone thrown at a bird for every loved child a child broken, bagged, sunk in a lake Life is short and the world is at least half terrible and for every kind stranger there is one who would break you Though I keep this from my children I'm trying to sell them the world. Any decent realtor walking you through a real shithole chirps on about Good bones. This place could be beautiful, right? You could make this place beautiful.

Andy 43:14

Tim, you should just read every poem.

Tim 43:19

Yeah. So that is a really incredible poem by Maggie Smith. Yeah. And I actually wasn't planning to read that before we got on, but I wanted to share that list. And I have two other poems I was going to read, but I guess maybe I just won't have time for them because her list is really incredible and there's a lot of amazing poems on there. And then that's the poem that just.

Andy 43:38

Yeah.

Tim 43:39

Can't talk about Maggie Smith without reading that. Andy, you got another one?

Johnny 43:45

Yeah.

Andy 43:46

I was debating between a couple, I guess, more kind of mainstream poets. One of them that I won't read is Wild Geese by Mary Oliver, which is a pretty, pretty classic one. And I think one of the reasons I like that one so much is just because, I mean, it's classic and just very, just uplifting and it's very Mary Oliver. But also I lived in a house where our landlords, who are artists, had that poem written on the inside of the medicine Cabinet, bathroom. And so every morning when I would have, like, opened the medicine cabinet to get out my toothbrush or whatever, I would just see a bit of that poem. So that was just a cool thing.

Tim 44:22

But actually, yeah, I was gonna say her collection. Her, like, collected poems that they put out a few years ago. It was, like, right after she passed away. I think it's called Devotions. I mean, I think I read that every other day. I mean, I pick that up so much. She is. She's really incredible. Yeah.

Andy 44:40

Mary Oliver just really. This is a whole topic of a whole different conversation, but at some point, I want to talk about how ChatGPT can, like, write poems in the style of Mary Oliver. Like, it's not. I mean, it's not good, right? It's a robot writing poem, but it's fun to see how it does.

Tim 44:53

It is Mary Oliver's, like, first draft.

Johnny 44:56

Yes.

Andy 44:59

But actually, I'm going to read you one from Lawrence Ferlinghetti, who is one of the. Besides Jack Kyrock, one of the most famous beat poets. He founded City Lights bookstore in San Francisco. He lived here. I mean, he was 102 when he died a couple years ago. He's been around. He wrote a book, a poem called the Changing Light, kind of about San Francisco. And I'm going to read that to you just to be nice.

Tim 45:22

It's the Coney island book. What was it called? Coney island of the Mind or something like that. I just remember that with my, like, high school, like, beat poetry phase. I remember finding that and being.

Andy 45:34

Yeah, I need to find that.

Tim 45:35

Gosh, now I need to find it. All right, sorry, I interrupted you.

Andy 45:37

No, you're right. He's great. So, yeah, here's the changing light. The changing light at San Francisco is none of your east coast light, none of your pearly lights of Paris. The light of San Francisco is a sea light, an island light, and the light of fog blanketing the hill, drifting in at night through the Golden Gate to lie on the city at dawn. And then the halcyon late mornings after the fog burns off and the sun paints white houses with the sea light of Greece, with sharp, clean shadows, making the town look like it had just been painted. But the wind comes up at 4 o', clock, sweeping the hills. And then the veil of light of early evening, and then another scrim when the new night fog floats in. And in that veil of light, the city drifts anchorless upon the ocean. I just like that one a lot because I feel like I've had that experience Like, I feel like I've been on a hill or have been driving across the bridge or something and just seeing the city of San Francisco and, like, all of these different kind of lights with fogs and all sorts of things. So it's just a really good. Just a really good poem for a place. Right. Like, the terroir of San Francisco is really well captured there.

Johnny 46:57

So this was one friends once. But when you're out there, does it feel weird that the sun is on one side?

Andy 47:06

What do you mean?

Johnny 47:07

I'm explaining this wrong. Whenever I'm off the East Coast, I'm really thrown off because the sun isn't. I know where the ocean. The ocean is. I know where the sun is and when that's not where it's rising, it's weird. Like, it throws off my entire equilibrium.

Andy 47:23

I'm not sure. Like. Like, you don't know. I'm interested in this. So it's not where, like, you're on the east coast and the sun would be rising from the ocean, Right?

Tim 47:36

Yeah.

Johnny 47:36

It's weird.

Andy 47:37

Yeah.

Johnny 47:38

Or the last time I was on the west coast and the sun was setting up the ocean, I'm like, well,

Andy 47:42

okay, that makes sense. So I guess. I guess I'll admit. So I've haven't spent much time on the east coast. So, like, I'm not definitely not used to, like, sun rising off of the ocean. So, I mean, I've spent a little bit of time in Florida, but, like, barely on the coast itself. So I guess. I guess to me, like, most of my experience of, like, looking at a sun on an ocean has been a setting sun.

Johnny 48:03

Yeah. It's weird because the colors are different.

Andy 48:05

Yeah. Yeah, the colors are different. It's like, especially in the sunset neighborhood, which is out by the ocean. It's, like, very orangey and pinky and kind of peachy. So. Yeah.

Johnny 48:17

Yeah. It makes the sunrise look kind of boring.

Tim 48:19

Yeah.

Johnny 48:21

So, you know, it doesn't get more fun. You're looking at it like, oh, that's enough. I'm going inside.

Andy 48:24

Yeah. All right. So that is. Those are my poem selections.

Johnny 48:31

So Tim mentioned that substack, which reminded me of a book that's from that Pocket Poets series that everybody's probably seen at bookstores. They'll have, like, the best poems by Whitman, or one of my favorite ones is Irish poems, because they're all depressing, and those are my people. So there's one that came out, I think, last year or the year before called Poems of Healing. And one of the poems in There was this poem. So if you were looking for an upbeat poem, volume of poetry, that was really good. If this is not an upbeat poem.

Tim 48:58

Oh, Johnny, I'm looking at this right now at that book. It looks incredible. And one of my favorite poems of all time is in it. Try to Praise the Mutilated World by Adam Zagajewski. Or Zagajewski. Whatever. Oh, gosh. I discovered that song because it was mentioned in a Over the Rhine song. There was like this line where they say, like the poet says to praise the mutilated world. And I was like, who says that? Shakespeare? Oh, no, it's this like semi contemporary poet. But it's a really amazing poem. So I'm definitely checking out this collection.

Johnny 49:34

Yeah, they're nice little books. They're durable. I have some that I've had for literally 20 years. They're still in reasonably good shape, but yeah, okay. So in that book they have a slightly shorter version of this poem because it's very long. But definitely check out the. The full version, which will be linked in the show notes. So this is Having a Night with Melancholy by Jean Kenyon. The intro is. If many remedies are prescribed for an illness, you may be certain that the illness has no cure. By Chekhov.

Tim 50:07

Bottles.

Johnny 50:09

Elavil, Ludium, Luduum. Oh my God, sorry. Take two bottles. Elavil, Luteamil, Doxepin, Norperamin, Prozac, lithium, Xanax, Wellbutrin, Parnate, Nardyl, Zoloft. The coda ones smell sweet or have no smell. The powdery ones smell like the chemistry lab at school that made me hold my breath. Suggestion from a friend. You wouldn't be so depressed if you really believed in God. Often, often I go to bed as soon after dinner as seems adult. I mean, I try to wait for dark in order to push away from the massive pain in sleep's frail wicker coracle. In and out the dog searches until he finds me upstairs. Lies down with a clatter of elbows, puts his head on my foot. Sometimes the sound of his breathing saves my life. In and out, in and out. A pause, a long sigh. Pardon a piece of burned meat. Wears my clothes, speaks my voice, dispatches obligations haltingly or not at all. It is tired of trying to be stout hearted. Tired beyond measure. We move on to the Moniamine oxidase inhibitors. Day and night I feel as if I had drunk six cups of coffee. But the pain stops abruptly with the wonder and bitterness of someone pardoned for a crime she did not Commit. I come back to marriage and friends, to pink fringed hollyhocks. Come back to my desk, books and chair, Woodthrush high in nardo in June light. I wake at four, waiting greedily for the first notes of the wood thrush. Youthful air presses through the screen with the wild, complex song of the bird. And I am overcome by ordinary contentment. What hurt me so terribly all my life until this moment, How I love the small, swiftly beating heart of the bird singing in the great maples its bright unequivocal eye.

Tim 52:08

Yeah, she might be like my new favorite poet. I mean, like, she's incredible. Yeah. I mean, I've read some of hers recently and like, that poem, I don't know if I've ever read it before, but I mean, just hearing you read it, that's a really incredible. And like, with me, I think so much about songwriting these days. Like, I just hear like, the kinds of, like, language she uses and the way she uses words that just makes me want to write a song, which is kind of what I'm always. What I'm always looking for.

Johnny 52:41

She really nailed a couple things, like the powdery pills. Like, four times a day I take a powdery pill and think about this poem.

Tim 52:48

The six cups of coffee and.

Johnny 52:49

Yeah, that's my everyday.

Tim 52:54

That's wonderful.

Johnny 52:56

Yeah. And her author poems. Her author photo looks sad. She died young, but from an illness that she has a lot of good poems about.

Andy 53:07

Yeah.

Tim 53:08

And. Yeah. And she was. You said she was married to Donald Hall?

Johnny 53:13

Yeah, he. I think he edited the most recent selection or selected poems that she did of her poems.

Tim 53:21

My original love and, like, reverence for Donald hall was before I realized that, like, I had read any of his poetry, like, before I realized that he was even a poet was because he was my favorite. He was my favorite interviewee on the Ken Burns baseball documentary, which I've watched like a dozen times. The way he talks about baseball is like, we should hang out, man. Like, I feel like we be friends. It's like a poet talking about baseball. I just need a Ouija board at this point, I guess. But yeah, because he passed away, didn't he? Yeah, fairly recently. Yeah. It was like, within the last. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I wish I could, man. He would. He's really incredible. And now I'm like, like eager to learn as much as I can about. About Jane Kenyon, too.

Johnny 54:11

Oh, he died in 2018.

Tim 54:14

2018.

Andy 54:14

Yeah.

Johnny 54:15

But his wife died in the 90s.

Tim 54:16

That's. Yeah.

Johnny 54:17

That makes me sad. You have another one?

Tim 54:22

Yeah. Well, speak. Speaking of dead poets. Yeah.

Andy 54:27

Be a society.

Tim 54:29

There should be. Oh, yeah. Well, this one is about a poet who died very recently. I think it was in January, Charles Simic. And this is a poem of his called Stone. Go inside a stone that would be my way. Let somebody else become a dove or gnash with a tiger's tooth. I'm happy to be a stone from the outside, the stone is a riddle. No one knows how to answer it. Yet within it must be cool and quiet. Even though a cow steps on at full weight, even though a child throws it in a river, the stone sinks slow, unperturbed, to the river bottom, where the fishes come to knock on it and listen. I have seen sparks fly out when two stones are rubbed. So perhaps it is not dark inside after all. Perhaps there is a moon shining from somewhere as though behind a hill. Just enough light to make out the strange writings, the star charts on the inner walls.

Andy 55:45

That's really good.

Johnny 55:46

Yeah, I really like that.

Tim 55:48

Yeah, It's a really incredibly beautiful poem. I remember the first time that I like. I basically, like, rediscovered. I remember reading that. I think sometime it was like, I was in college, and there was. I had one professor who really liked Simic, and I found it and I didn't, like, fully appreciate it, and then he passed away. And there's a really awesome Instagram account called Poetry Is Not a Luxury, and they basically, like, post poems.

Johnny 56:11

Oh, yeah, that's a great one.

Tim 56:13

It's really good. And shortly after he died, I think that's where I was, like, scrolling, and they had, like, whoever runs that, like, he or she had posted that poem and just smack me in the face. And it almost like, it was like that ratatouille moment where, like, he tastes the ratatouille and he, like, zooms back to his childhood, but I zoom back to college and, like, it's like. I remember reading this poem, and this was, like, the one that I, like, synced up with a really amazing poem. That, like, idea of, like, something as simple as a stone can be, just alive, like, full of, like, mystery. And I really, really love that poem.

Andy 56:50

So nice.

Tim 56:51

Yeah.

Andy 56:51

Happy National Poetry Month, everybody.

Johnny 56:53

It's got kind of heavy.

Tim 56:55

It did, but poetry tends to do that and be afraid of that. But this was great. I mean, the poems that you all read, I hadn't read or I don't have any memory of reading any of those, so I appreciate you guys bringing those in because I want to dig back into them and read them after the podcast and read More stuff by them. I've read a little Ferling Getty, but he was the only one. And then Jane Kenyon. I've read a little bit too, but now both of those I just want to. I want to dive into. So thank you for sharing.

Andy 57:27

Our original idea for this episode didn't pan out, so this was kind of a last minute thing, but I think it was great. I really liked being able to just read poems at each other.

Tim 57:35

Yeah, totally. That'd be a good thing to come back to every once in a while. Maybe that's one of our rotation of like opening things. Like what's a poem you're enjoying right now? Because I think that it really, like lends itself well to just like talking about what's important to you right now. And the things that are. Yeah. On your mind. And the things that are striking you or the things that are. There's a. There's another great phrase from Maggie Smith, the poet that I talked about earlier, which I really just like envy the way she talked about this. I actually use this term with my kids. She says that her and her kids, when they see something like unusual or something beautiful that just like makes them stop. Their family calls them beauty emergencies, which I really like. There's like, her kids will just be like, there's a beauty emergency. And she'll come out back and there's like an owl in the tree or something. But I like any chance I can get to. And poetry can give us those beauty emergencies too. All right, well, thanks, guys.

Andy 58:30

Yeah, this is fun.

Tim 58:32

Yeah, that was wonderful. Well, we're gonna, we're gonna call it a night on this and, and you'll. We'll be talking to you soon. We're gonna actually talk about poetry again on the next episode likely, or at least one of the next couple episodes. So stay tuned. We'd like to start by thanking our Patreon producers. If you haven't supported us on Patreon or if you haven't checked out our Patreon, you can find it on our website at Erasable Doc. Erasable Podcast, sorry. Erasable Us slash Patreon. And these are our producer level patrons. So Liz Rotunda, Melissa Miller, digitaltent Tech Angie. Aaron Bollinger, Andrew Austin, Tara Whittle, Ida Umphers, David Johnson, Phil Munson, Donnie Pierce, Bill Black, Tom Keakley, Andre Torres, Paul Moorhead, John Cappellouti, Steve Franscali, Aaron Willard, Millie Blackwell, Michael Diolosa, Tana Feliz and Sipe, Joe Crace, Michael Hagan, Bill Clow, Mary Collis, Kathleen Rogers, Kelton Wiens, Hans Noodleman and John Wood. Thank you so much for your support. If you haven't checked that out, we actually just released a new episode of Indelible. So go. If you want to listen to that, support us on Patreon. You'll get to hear. That's where these alter egos talk about the inky Spend more time talking about the inky side of the writing world. You can follow us on Twitter and Instagram raceablepodcast. We're also on Facebook, of course, in the wonderful Facebook group. You can find that at Facebook. You find our Facebook group there. You can also find our Facebook page where you can like us and get some updates about the podcast. Thank you so much for listening tonight. And Andy, where can people find you on the Internet?

Andy 1:00:23

I am@andy WTF? And on I guess I'm still on Twitter. Wealthily on Twitter and then I also have a mastodon if anybody's over there@andy grid d o t g r.id how about you Johnny?

Johnny 1:00:42

I'm on, I'm sorry social media at pennsolution and on the Internet@pencil revolution.com

Tim 1:00:51

and I am on Instagram @timothywasson and on Twitter imwasson. So thank you so much for listening to episode 194 of the erasable podcast and we will talk to you soon.

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