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Andy 0:00

The official pencil of the Antifa headquarters is what I think they're saying with this.

Johnny 0:13

Hello and welcome to episode 158 of the Erasable podcast. I am Johnny the Foot. And I am joined by Tim the Beard and Andy the Cool Cat for tonight's discussion of pencil sharpeners. How are you bearded and catty guys doing?

Andy 0:28

It says right here the Kook cat. So that's what I thought you were gonna say.

Tim 0:32

Kooky cat.

Johnny 0:34

Oh, I wrote, didn't I?

Tim 0:38

Oops. So why the Foot? Why are you. Why are you the Foot?

Johnny 0:41

I don't know, I.

Tim 0:43

Are you like a bad guy in a Ninja Turtles movie?

Johnny 0:45

I was very caffeinated when I wrote that. That took me exactly 2 1/2 seconds to type the entire intro and document.

Tim 0:54

Impressive. Yeah, yeah.

Johnny 0:56

My laptop is missing some keys, so. We talk about Sharpeners a lot, but I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the last time that we did a full episode for Sharpeners was number six, which was so long ago when

Tim 1:13

we didn't know a thing.

Andy 1:15

Yeah.

Johnny 1:16

And our seven year anniversary will be up before we record, so this could be our anniversary episode or that one. So, you know, a nice blast from the past. And there are so many new Sharpeners since then. Like there was no masterpiece back then, I believe.

Andy 1:33

Yeah.

Johnny 1:34

Dang, What a world.

Andy 1:36

Seven years.

Tim 1:37

We are also recording like what, 367 days since we first saw y'. All. We were all in the same place for the first time. Yeah, that was like two days ago, the 28th.

Andy 1:50

It's a little bit weird because a lot of things happened on February 29, which did not exist this year, so. Yeah, that's true.

Tim 1:58

Yeah.

Johnny 1:59

Yeah. So before we get into tools of the trade, we have a little announcement. To celebrate our lucky seventh anniversary, we're doing a T shirt campaign which we haven't done for a while. So this is going to feature a hand drawn logo by Alice. Unlike last time, there are going to be a variety of colors and styles. If you're a patreon Supporter at $10 a month and we read your name at the end of this, you're already going to get one.

Andy 2:24

If that's the case, please fill out a survey that I sent you through the Patreon feed. Yeah.

Johnny 2:30

So before March 14, which is not that far away, get on this printing. And I think they're going to come after April 1st. And all proceeds go to keeping the show up and running and keeping its hosts in pencils. So go to erasable US T shirt to see the campaign and pick out which one you want. Yellow. Yellow.

Andy 2:52

There's a choice originally when we. When we put this together. So if you're not familiar with it, familiar with Elisera. He was on episode, I think 152, 154, 152, let's say that I'll look it up. And he was fantastic guest. He's a just really talented illustrator. And when he was kind of announcing on his Instagram that he was on this episode, he had. He showed his notes and it had a little doodled erasable logo in it. And we saw that, we're like, wow, this looks so good. So I. I asked him if he would be willing to let us put that on some swag. So that's kind of where this came from. And originally I was thinking it'd be really fun to put just like the. The hand drawn. This hand drawn logo just in simple. Like black or dark gray on a gray shirt is very subtle. But then we saw that gold one and it just looks amazing on that. So I don't know if you're a. You're a gray T shirt kind of person or a gold T shirt kind of person. There's some other colors too.

Johnny 3:51

Yeah. If in doubt, get both.

Tim 3:54

True though.

Andy 3:55

Yeah. You're all over that, what you said, Tim, the hoodie.

Tim 3:59

Yeah, I'm definitely, definitely picking up a one of those. I think I'm gonna get in gray, but.

Andy 4:04

Yeah, man.

Tim 4:05

Ye.

Johnny 4:06

The first time that we did hoodies, I didn't get one because I forgot.

Andy 4:10

Same here.

Johnny 4:10

A friend of mine would wear his all the time and I'm like, damn, can I have that? But he really, he really liked it. He said it was a really good hoodie, so no dice. He got it nice green.

Andy 4:23

I wish we could have ordered zip hoodies again this time. But the company that we went with to print this bonfire doesn't offer that. So we'll find a way to do it.

Tim 4:32

I'm. I'm a fan of the pullover hoodie, so I'm happy this time. But we should. We'll figure that out for the next one. Yeah. Oh, they do youth T shirts too. I forgot about that.

Andy 4:40

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Tim 4:42

And a pink. Oh, you can get a pink one for Lila. She'd be like, oh, man, this is gonna happen.

Johnny 4:49

Awesome. So before we talk about sharpeners, you want to do with the tools of the trade, do you want to go first, Mr. Tim?

Tim 4:57

Sure.

Johnny 4:58

Wait.

Tim 4:58

I'd love to. The beard. Yeah. So main thing, which has been a great source of Joy. Which I found out about because. Because of Andy is somebody feed Phil.

Andy 5:12

Yeah.

Tim 5:13

And loving it so much. It's so great. He's like. This might be a reference. Johnny, you might be familiar with this because of the little kids, but you guys know who Blippi is? No. Okay. He's a former, like, apparently he's like a former Marine who started this, like, kid show where he dresses in this, like, ridiculous outfit and just, like, goes and films himself playing at play places, like, in acting like he's a little kid. It's terrible. It's awesome.

Johnny 5:46

That's not really weird.

Tim 5:48

It's night. It's nightmarish. But he's. The kids are like. Kids just get, like, hooked on. We've weaned our kids off of it, thankfully.

Andy 5:55

But he's huge.

Tim 5:56

You can buy toys of this. This psycho. But anyways, Jane, we were watching it, and she's like, he's like the Blippi of food shows. Like, just because of all of his, like, facial expressions. Like when he bites into something that's good and his face just, like, lights up and his eyes get really big and the huge smile doesn't say. It's just delightful. It is delightful in this context. So we're really loving that. We've only watched maybe about five or six of them.

Andy 6:24

I love his theme song so much. Beginning, like, the Lake Street Drive Dive. People are so good.

Tim 6:30

Yes, they are. And I love his parents.

Andy 6:34

Yes.

Tim 6:35

On the show.

Andy 6:35

Yeah.

Tim 6:36

I love seeing his parents and that. Like the. The New York episode where he's, like, in the next room and he just walks over. But they're. They're always, like, just so game for everything.

Andy 6:44

Yeah. The jokes. Yeah. It's so good.

Tim 6:47

Oh, yeah. Um, we have also been watching and really enjoying For All Mankind, which is on Apple TV plus.

Andy 6:58

Oh, is that the thing about the moon and moon landing?

Tim 7:00

Yeah. Yeah. So it's a alternative history story where the Russians land on the moon before we did. And so it changes the course of history. So this follows, like, if the. If the Russians had landed first, here's what would have happened next. And then it follows that for, like. I mean, we're in season two now, which. Just. Which is coming out right now. So there's only two episodes out

Andy 7:23

and

Tim 7:23

it's already spanned, like, 15 years, I think. So it kind of jumps. It'll. It'll jump ahead. It's only 10 episodes the first season, but it's really good. And so it turns into it, you know, the whole space race takes a whole different turn where they're building a base on the moon and you know, they going all the way up to like Apollo 37, you know, and, and there's also all these interesting little details you find out throughout the show. Like things that changed in history where you find out John Lennon didn't die, but Pope John Paul did, he was assassinated. And like, I don't know, it's just all this stuff comes out that, that's not the point of the show. All those details, they just kind of squeak out here and there where you're like, oh, it's a totally different world. Like just the, the moon landing changed everything.

Andy 8:09

So have you ever listened or watched that movie where it's, it's if, oh man, if the Beatles didn't exist, this musician, okay, he gets hit in the head and then all these things are slightly different in this like alternate reality where the Beatles don't exist. It's so interesting.

Tim 8:26

Yes.

Andy 8:26

Yeah, yeah.

Tim 8:27

That, that is a movie I always describe as like a very solid B plus. Like it's, it's, it's a lot of fun. But if you think about it for more than five seconds, you're like, this makes no sense. Yeah, but it's very fun. I've watched it multiple times, but yeah, because I remember the first time we watched it and I saw it by myself in the theaters the first time actually. And I was watching it, was really having a good time. And then he was like looking through his record collection and he couldn't find the Beatles records. And then he picked up a Rolling Stones record and I was like, that doesn't make any sense. Rolling Stones wouldn't exist if the Beatles didn't do. You know, I was, you know, the Beatles wrote their first hit. They never would have made it if it weren't for the Beatles. How is that possible? So I think too much. And I'm still reading the same book I was talking to you guys about recently, that A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is George Saunders book version of his course on Russian short stories. So that's a lot of fun. I like that. So he kind of, that's how he folds his. It's like his writing book. So he folds his writing advice into like an analysis of these like perfect six perfect in his. In his view, like six perfect Russian short stories. Cool. And it's a great book. And I am listening to Hayes. Carl is somebody I've been listening to recently a lot. He's a Texas kind of country ish songwriter. Now we'll just say country songwriter, but like more in the classical sense. Not like Garth Brooks or something, more like Waylon Jennings or something like that. And he, yeah, he's kind of flies under the radar, but he's, he's really good. He's got a, there's a good song called Nunya. Drunken Poet's Dream is a good one too. But he's, he's one of those guys who's kind of perpetually on the verge of being known by more people but kind of comfortably stuck there somewhere in the middle. And I like them. I like them. And writing with. I've got two things with me. One, I've got. I've been using Forest Choice a lot this week and I've been really digging that. And then I also have in, in honor of our most, there's a little sneak peek for the people who don't get to listen to Indelible. If you follow us on or if you support us on Patreon, you get access to Indelible, which is our pen podcast that we do. And we talked about gel pens this last. And I am using. I've got my Uniball Sino, UM153, which is the capped 1.0 fat gel pen. And, and I've got it in blue black here. And I have been using that a ton.

Andy 10:59

You gave away the Secret Society? Yes.

Tim 11:06

So yeah, that's what I'm using. And then writing on, to be perfectly honest, I am, I've the, the only paper I have here are the, the backside of some song lyrics that I printed off that I was working on a song. So that's what I'm writing on printer paper is what I've got right here. That's me. How about you, Andy?

Andy 11:29

Oh boy.

Johnny 11:30

So.

Andy 11:31

So last weekend Katie and I watched this movie that is just bananas, just completely off the wall. It's called Barb and Star. Go to Vista Vista Del Mar and have you heard of it, either of you?

Tim 11:43

Oh yeah, I'm watching yet. But I'm, I've, I'm. I'm aware.

Andy 11:48

Yeah, it is a, it's, it's written by Kristen Wiig and I'm gonna blank on her name. It's her writing partner for Bridesmaids. She also stars in this. They are together, Barb and Star. And they're these two, two middle aged women from I think North Dakota who go have a vacation in, in Florida and it's just so strange. It's like a little bit like if you cross bridesmaids with the target lady sketch and that character that, that Kristen Wiig does in on an. On snl where she's like the aunt who likes surprises with a little bit of Austin Powers mixed in. And that is this movie.

Tim 12:40

I like that description. Yeah.

Andy 12:43

So Katie and I were like, we went the whole time just not really knowing if we liked it or not. And I think the way that you described that Beatles movie, which I can't remember the name of. Tim.

Tim 12:54

Yesterday.

Andy 12:55

Yeah, yesterday I would describe this as like a solid B plus.

Tim 12:58

Like it was worth watching, worth your time. Yeah. But if not going to change your life.

Andy 13:04

But if you don't like, if you don't like any one of those things that I just described, don't watch it because you would not like it.

Tim 13:11

If you don't have all of those, those cornerstones in place, then you're not going to like it.

Andy 13:17

Also, Katie and I just finished the Flight Attendant, which is a. I can't remember if I talked about this last time, but it is a kind of like high energy, high anxiety thriller starring Kaylee Kuoko, who is Penny on Big Bang Theory, and she plays this flight attendant who is in Bangkok and she wakes up next to a dead man in a strange hotel and basically has to like, figure out, you know, what's going on from there. So pretty, Pretty good. It's. Yeah, it like tires you out watching it because it's super high energy and it also like kind of. It definitely gave you some anxiety while it was happening. The other thing I.

Tim 14:05

So high. High energy and like a stressful way, not high energy in like a exciting way.

Andy 14:11

Yeah, I mean, both has really good storytelling, really like, interesting things happen, but also like, oh my God. Oh, God. Like, it just keeps on going.

Tim 14:19

Yeah. Okay, gotcha.

Andy 14:19

Yeah. Yeah. I been reading this book that I just picked up called Spirits of San Francisco by Gary Kamiyah, who is one of the founders of Salon.com and writes a lot about San Francisco. He wrote this really great book called Cool Gray City of Love a few years ago that has all these little vignettes, like chapters about the history of San Francisco, like from the time when the indigenous people were here to like, you know, to the 19th century to some, like, stuff about that, like, you know, the natural history of the Bay Area. It's really good. This one, he focuses on 16 different, like, views in the city. He worked with a really great sketch artist, like an illustrator, and he talks about the history of Chinatown, he talks about the history of north beach, which is really kind of fun to read after you know, Lawrence Ferlinghetti just died. Just a big beat poet. And, like, he ran City lights bookstore, which is a big staple of North Beach. It's a really good book if you want to read about, like, the history of San Francisco. Last thing I'll mention is this. So for my birthday, Katie got me an oculus quest, which is a VR headset. So, like a virtual reality headset. So there's this game in there called I expect you to die, and it is sort of like a spy puzzle. You. It puts you in these situations, like, you're posing as a window cleaner outside of a lab, and you have a sponge and a spray bottle and a gun and, like, all these different things. And you have to. Yeah, you have to, like, like, break the. Break the window and, like, do all these things to stop a virus from happening. And it's just you interact with everything, and it's so immersing because, like, you can pick up objects and look at them and try them out and make them work with other objects, and it's all in virtual reality. And that's just really, really bananas to me. So I'm a big fan of. Big fan of this if. If you have any VR inkling, anybody out there, like, check out something like this. And I am writing. The other day, I pulled out a general cedar point, and I've been writing with that.

Tim 16:39

Nice.

Andy 16:40

And in my. In my lich term. Tony, how about you?

Johnny 16:44

I am doing research for the next pencil revolution scene, which is about walking. So I read a book that the New Yorker recommended recently called the walker on losing and finding yourself in the modern city. So I didn't, like. I didn't read anything about the author. So I thought this was going to be like, oh, walking is great. Here's some tips for great walking. So it showed up, and it was actually just a series of essays that were, you know, really high in theory. And he starts talking about Derrida, and I started having grad school flashbacks. So triggered. Yeah. At the end, I'm like, I think I liked this book, but I didn't realize that it wasn't a book but an essay collection that didn't really fit together that well. But it was interesting. It was good, you know, going back to, oh, this book requires a lot of brain power instead of my usual, you know, not brain power books. And I. Another new book that came out recently is called ADHD 2.0 by Dr. Hallowell and Rady. They are the guys that wrote the original book that came out called Driven to Distraction. I think in the 90s, when people didn't really know what ad at the time add was. So this one's, like, really short. And they talk a lot about embracing those sort of traits as an asset if you can manage them. And they talk about the fact that a lot of people in modern life are starting to develop attention problems, and they could probably benefit from some of these strategies too, but they can't get Adderall.

Andy 18:26

Do they think that. Do they think that people are developing it, or do you think it's just becoming more known and diagnosed?

Johnny 18:32

Oh, they think they call it vast for variable attention something. And they're like, this is not like a brain disorder, but it's a set of behaviors that are really disturbing. And because of social media and like, the pace of modern life, people are just not learning how to focus on anything because it's basically discouraged.

Andy 18:56

Interesting. Yeah.

Johnny 18:56

Yeah, it was good. Really good.

Tim 19:00

And short.

Johnny 19:00

They popped it down to like 50,000 words or something. But, yeah, if you, you know, maybe have a kid who possibly has it or you do or someone else is definitely worth a read. And the other thing I'm reading is like a crap ton of zines. So I'm really into behind the Zines. Like, that's like one of my new favorite scenes. And I just got my copy of Basic Paper Airplane today, and on the back they mentioned that you could get back issues. So I googled it and instead I came up with a website that's about making paper airplanes, which was like an hour and a half rabbit hole before we record it. I was a couple minutes late because I was building paper airplanes. But I want to find the link and put it in the show notes because some of them were so good. Like, I can't wait to get outside with some paper and just go bonkers with this. But I'm writing with a Papermate Earthrite. I think these are from the late 90s. They're yellow, but the eraser is green. They're so darn pretty. They're very nice cedar. And I'm using a red Wright notepads pocket notebook with a crab on it.

Andy 20:12

Oh, yeah, that was a good one.

Johnny 20:14

Yeah, it's so red. It's pretty. I love it. Yeah. So want to jump into fresh points, Mr. Tim?

Tim 20:22

Yeah, sure. So the first thing I wanted to talk about is just a. I. I noticed something on Instagram the other day. I put it as the first link in my freshpoints for you guys to click on, but it is a picture that was posted of these Anniversary. Like this beautiful anniversary box of the uni pencils. And it's. It was just. Yeah, 60th anniversary. Gorgeous. When I first saw it, I was like, oh, these are new. Cool. I want to find this. But 60, they've been around for a lot longer than that. Right? I mean, Mitsubishi Pencil Company. So I think these are vintage. So anyways, I was going to share that with you guys just because I thought they were beautiful. This, this box is really cool looking. And I really like the. How they printed 60th anniversary on the sides of these pencils.

Andy 21:11

Oh, yeah, man. How do I get. How do we get some of these?

Tim 21:15

No, just. Okay, so you're not going to want that after you click on the second.

Johnny 21:20

Oh, my God.

Tim 21:21

Yeah, I've got there.

Johnny 21:21

I've been kicking myself. Have you ever seen one of those?

Tim 21:25

I never knew about these until yesterday. So. The 50th anniversary of uni. Of uni. So I guess this maybe you would check out maybe those. Maybe it is their 60th anniversary. Because this was 2009. This is a Jetpens link and it was their limited edition pencil holder. And it looks like a fountain pen, but when you take the cap off, it has the same kind of twisting mechanism as you have on a lot of pencil holders to hold the pencil in place. So you could literally have that in your pocket. It looks like a pretty handsome looking fountain pen, if you ask me. But when you open it up. Wow. Boom. Yeah, it's a. It's a pencil holder.

Johnny 22:07

Yeah.

Tim 22:07

I am just absolutely smitten with it and I cannot find them anywhere.

Johnny 22:11

So I think they only. It was one of those things where they only made like 500 or 5,000. Oh, wait, it says right there, 5,000 of them. So, yep, when they came out, I was in AmeriCorps and I couldn't swing or justify buying one. But ever since then, I'm kicking.

Tim 22:23

How much were they when they came out?

Johnny 22:24

I want to say they were 50 or 250, one of those two numbers, but they were like, you know, if you're an AmeriCorps VISTA, they pay you the poverty rate. So that wasn't happening.

Tim 22:35

Right. Anyways, I was just blown away by that thing and so it just made

Andy 22:41

me want to like.

Tim 22:42

I wish. I can't believe that's the only one of those out there. Right. Does that seem a little. That seems a little bananas that nobody else has made anything even remotely like that that I know of. Johnny, have you ever seen anything else like that? No.

Johnny 22:55

If I did I'd have one. I'd have three of them.

Andy 22:58

Yeah, you should reach out in the group. We have a few people who are pretty. Pretty good scholars of, like, you know, all things uni. So I wonder.

Johnny 23:08

I think John Morris has one, doesn't he?

Andy 23:10

I wouldn't be surprised.

Johnny 23:11

I mean, if you're listening, I'm your namesake, so I should be your favorite host. You should hook me up.

Andy 23:18

Wait, they named John Morris after you?

Johnny 23:20

Yep.

Tim 23:21

I'm losing. I'm traveling.

Andy 23:24

The rules.

Johnny 23:24

I assume I'm older than him. I look older than him.

Tim 23:27

I don't make the rules. I just follow them.

Andy 23:29

Yeah.

Tim 23:30

Yeah. Cool. So, yeah, I just want to show you guys those two things. That is really cool. And so I am going to go on a hunt for this. This. This pencil holder because. Never seen anything like it. And it would be very cool to have. Not if it cost $250, though, so. But, man, that would be cool to have somebody figure out how to make those again. All right, and next I was going to mention the. The article that I put in the Feral Files, which was a really good read. It's from the Paris Review. And I'm not going to say too much about it, because if it's just something. If it's something that sounds interesting to you, then you should check it out and spend some time with it. But it is an article in the Paris Review called Someone Else's Diary. So it's a really cool essay about the appeals of reading kind of published diaries and the diaries of other people and what, you know, the insight that you get from that and why it's. Yeah, I don't know why it's so enjoyable. So it's. Cool little essay. Cool little essay. It's a. It's a great essay. And it also, I guess. I guess was extra interesting to me because I've talked before on here about how that's one of my favorite things to read before bed is like the published diaries of whoever, you know. I think that's a. It's a great bedtime read to read a few entries from. Yeah, I've done Steinbecks, and I've got Thoreau's and John Cheever, Thomas Merton. Those are some of the ones that I've. That I've spent some times with, some. Some time with. So if you have any others that anybody out there, likes, let me know, because I'm always looking for something in that. In that genre. And the last thing on my list is I figured we should probably talk

Andy 25:20

about the teaser Watch them announce the whole thing tomorrow after we publish Black Wing 223.

Tim 25:27

Yes. Yeah. So, yeah. So what do you guys. What are you guys feeling about this? Well, who haven't told us much.

Johnny 25:38

Someone in the group figured out exactly where it came from.

Andy 25:42

Oh, really?

Tim 25:43

I didn't see that. I know when I first saw.

Johnny 25:45

That's why I wrote what I wrote in the, in the document. I'm sorry.

Tim 25:48

Yeah, well, I saw the picture and as soon as I saw the picture, I was like, that's a guitar. So. But I, I. Yeah, I don't know. What did they figure out? What do they say?

Johnny 25:59

Should I say, yeah, sure.

Tim 26:02

So why not?

Johnny 26:03

Someone found the exact picture and sort of like photoshopped the teaser into it and it was a picture of Woody Guthrie playing his guitar with the this machine kills fascist sticker on it.

Andy 26:15

So I. Some good detective work right there.

Johnny 26:17

Yeah. When someone found that, I'm like, how in the hell did you just like from a corner of a guitar, figure this out?

Andy 26:23

But so one thing, one piece of context we should probably give is that whenever Blackwing announces the volume number, they always put it against like a blurred out image that has something to do with where it's. Where it comes from. So somebody, somebody like found that little corner of an image that has been blurred out and kind of like compared it and contrasted it. And I think there was, in that blurred out image, there was like a kind of a curvy piece. Tim, is that, that's what you're talking about, right, with the guitar?

Tim 26:50

Yeah. Like the hourglass shape of an acoustic guitar. Yeah, that's what I was.

Johnny 26:55

Yeah. Whoever posted that photo, that was really amazing.

Andy 27:00

So. So we think it's. We think it's a Woody Guthrie pencil.

Johnny 27:04

It's. It's exactly from that picture, like they, they fit it right in. Crazy.

Andy 27:10

What is the, what is the connection to 223?

Johnny 27:15

Was that his birthday something?

Andy 27:17

No, I'm trying to find.

Tim 27:19

Not his birthday. Yeah. I've tried to hunt around, I thought, like, number of songs he's written, but apparently he's written over a thousand. His birthday doesn't fit. So it's got to be some like obscure reference to a song or something.

Johnny 27:30

But on February 23, 1954, something about this land is your land. Yeah. If there was this land is your land pencil, that would be pretty amazing, I have to say. I really like that song.

Andy 27:47

Yeah.

Johnny 27:48

The Jennifer Lopez version was not terrible.

Tim 27:52

The Avett Brothers recorded a really awesome version like six months ago. That's worth A worth a Google.

Andy 27:59

That was a noise.

Tim 28:00

Was that the Zelda version?

Johnny 28:03

The one time I forgot to mute my phone. Sorry about that.

Tim 28:10

So I guess. I don't know if we can make any guesses. Yes. Like if it's a Woody Guthrie pencil or this land is your only pencil or whatever. Like, I mean, my first assumption is it's probably going to be an extra firm.

Andy 28:21

Yeah.

Tim 28:21

Is my guess that just. That just like philosophically fits. What do you got? 3. Traveling on the road. You don't want something you have, you know, you have to sharpen something. That's hardy. Right. Yeah. So I think it's going to be a hard pencil. I'm really, really just praying and hoping that it's a round pencil because they just haven't. They've only done one. Right. I mean, that's like. That was such a. Such a tease. They need another round. Black wing. Yeah.

Andy 28:48

So. So we think that maybe it's going to say on it, this machine kills fascists.

Tim 28:54

That'd be great if it did.

Andy 28:55

Yeah.

Tim 28:55

I mean, I don't know like that's. It would be, you know, as like edgy and statement making as they've been as far as like politics go. They had the writing thing, but like, I mean you can't, you can't make a pencil that says something about being anti fascist these days without immediately like having some significant sub. I mean, I fully believe in they.

Johnny 29:19

The women to. The women's right to vote is more like a social issue, I think, or a moral issue. But not political.

Andy 29:26

Not.

Johnny 29:26

Not these days.

Andy 29:28

But fascism is a social and moral issue too. Yeah.

Johnny 29:32

Yeah.

Andy 29:32

This is the, the official pencil of the antifa headquarters. I think they're saying with this.

Johnny 29:38

Yeah. When I, When I first saw the connection, I, you know, immediately thought of the notebook.

Andy 29:42

Right.

Johnny 29:42

Notepads made like, oh, that looks familiar. But yeah, them, them.

Andy 29:48

That was a good notepad.

Johnny 29:49

Yeah. And then putting something anti fascist on a pencil is pretty gutsy. That'd be pretty awesome.

Tim 29:54

Yeah, that'd be cool.

Johnny 29:56

I could dig it.

Andy 29:56

Yeah.

Tim 29:56

And I mean, it's like this is as far as like taking from. Right. Notepads or whatever. This is like this land is your land is like one of the most famous American phrases ever. So it's like, yeah, I would be happier if it was that necessarily been appropriated. Yeah. Or Wood Guthrie or whatever. But yeah, I'm excited for it. I'm excited. And yeah, chances are we'll find out before this is even published or something. But I haven't. Have you Guys gotten your shipping notice yet?

Johnny 30:24

No, I got my purchase notice.

Andy 30:27

Yeah.

Tim 30:28

Yeah, same here. I got a.

Andy 30:29

The thing that shows that they're. They printed a label, but it is.

Tim 30:34

I hate that.

Andy 30:35

Yeah, that just sticks around for a while.

Tim 30:37

I hate that email. Yeah. Yeah. Alrighty. Well, that's, that's. That's all I've got. So we'll see what happens with the. The 223 and. Yeah. So, Andy, what about you? What do you got for fresh points?

Andy 30:51

Just a couple products and one interesting thing I've been working on. So I. If any of you in the Erasable group or from elsewhere knows who Keith Allen McCleary is, who is random thinks on. On social media, he has been 3D printing some amazing things I purchased. I think I talked about my golden bear style, my blue book, golden bear style. Pen cup, pencil cup. Before that. He made. He's made a really great little pencil holder and he just made this really cool field notes file. Like, like file shelf. Right? Like a. What am I trying to say here?

Johnny 31:34

It's like a magazine holder.

Andy 31:36

Yeah, but for your field notes. And. Yeah, I just think they're super cool. I don't really keep a lot of field notes out on display, but sometimes I want to like, you know, thumb through them and look at them. So I ordered a couple. Um, I just really love the things that Keith makes. Um. Yeah, he just comes up with some really interesting things.

Johnny 31:55

Yeah, he was sort of exploring doing bullet pencils for a while. I wonder what happened with that. I have two in gray and like, I really, really like them. Plus they're not old, so I just don't mind beating them up a little bit. They're super durable.

Andy 32:11

Did you see those ink sample things that he made, Johnny?

Johnny 32:13

No.

Andy 32:15

He made these really. I know, I don't know, maybe a topic for some. Some other podcast, but he made these really cool little 3D printed. Looks like a coffee cup on a. On a. Like on a saucer. And the middle of it has a little hole for one of those sample vials that you like. Ink sample vials. Oh, neat. And it basically just holds it into place while you, you know, suck it up in your fountain pen or whatever.

Johnny 32:40

That's a really good idea. Awesome.

Andy 32:42

So, yeah, he's great. I recommend his stuff. I'll try to find a link to his store and put in field in show notes. But he also heavily. He offers it to the Erasable group as well, which is great. Other thing I'll mention. So Draplin, Aaron Draplin did Another round of collaboration with the James brand and made a really cool little pocket knife called. Oh, they have one called an Elko E L K O. And this is his take on that with kind of a black blade and, of course, an orange hilt, some stuff on it. So picked one of those up. Did either of you guys get that?

Tim 33:20

No, I did not.

Andy 33:21

Yeah, I'm not really, like, a knife guy, but, like, I've heard good things about the size and sort of the durability of this. And so I can always use the knife to, like, open boxes or, you know, stab people in the park, whatever.

Tim 33:35

I have a. I have a. What's the Swiss army knife brand?

Andy 33:40

Victorinox.

Tim 33:42

Yeah, I have a. I have a really nice Victorinox knife that I confiscated from a student on a trip to D.C. so about five years ago. So I'm. I'm content with that one.

Andy 33:54

Who's your student? Nicholas Cage.

Tim 33:57

No, I actually don't even know who the kid was. We found it, like, on the floor of the bus. And I had taken my pocket knife with me. We were going to the Smithsonian. They were checking my bag and I was like, oh, no. And the bus had already left. And then I forgot that my knife was in there. And it wasn't like a really nice one or anything, but I was just like, whatever. I threw it away. I went back into the bus later on, and one of the other teachers was like, look what I found. It's like, oh, check that out. He's like, you want it? Yep. Because we're not giving it back to the kid, that's for sure.

Andy 34:26

So he made 700 last time. The first round, they sold out in, like, 12 minutes. And this time around, he made, like 700 of them and sold out within a day. But, like, definitely longer than 12 minutes.

Tim 34:39

Yeah.

Johnny 34:39

That is bunkers.

Andy 34:41

Yeah. Last thing I'll mention, which is just. Just really interesting to me. So my. My parents are. They just bought a house and they are in the process of kind of cleaning out the old house that they've had, that I grew up in, that they've had for 35 years. And so there's a lot of. Lot of stuff. And my mom is. Was the only child in her family, so she just has all this sort of like, old historical stuff that, like, comes from her side of the family. And she just sent me this thing that she found, which is a pocket notebook from 1921 from 100 years ago that belonged to my great grandfather. Um, he. He worked. He was an engineer at General Electric. Which had a big plant in Fort Wayne. And it's. It's so cool. There's. There's all sorts of things in it. There's like, little reference guides in the front. There's some, like, layman stuff, like, you know, populations and square mileage of every county in the US There's. There's, like, engineer stuff, like the tensile strength of copper wire and. Oh, wow. Like, the melting point of elements, things like that. And there's a spot for memoranda, like. Like, I like for notes. He has his, like, 2021 budget in here. He budgeted $520 for. For food for the year. That's $10 a week.

Johnny 36:02

Oh, wow.

Andy 36:02

He budgeted $420 a year in rent. That's $35 a month. Yeah, just really. He has. He has a spot for wife's budget and my budget. They're the same because, you know, women's equality. Yeah. It's just really interesting. And he has this whole, like, in the back, there's kind of like a word notepad style, yearly calendar, like, diary. There's a spot for, like, two, four, five lines of text for each day of the year. And it's. It's really fascinating because I can, like, literally see what my great grandfather was doing on this day 100 years ago.

Tim 36:44

That's awesome.

Johnny 36:45

Did you ever meet your great, great, great grandfather?

Andy 36:48

He died before I was born, so I've never met him. But he's. So my. His last name is. So his name is Hugh Stevenson, and his last name is my middle name. Oh, cool. And then I'm. I'm actually the. My sisters and I are the only, like, descendants of this generation because his daughter, my grandmother, was an only child, and then her daughter, my mother, was an only child. So we're. We're the only sort of descendants of Hugh Stevenson.

Johnny 37:14

Oh, wow.

Andy 37:16

Yeah. So he. He's really interesting. He published a. Like, he's a composer, and he published a couple waltzes that he filed with the Library of Congress. And, like, one of the things my mom sent me was a little card that's a receipt from that. So I think I'm gonna try.

Tim 37:30

That's. So.

Andy 37:30

Yeah, I think I'm trying to look up this waltz and see if I can find it. But, yeah, he's.

Tim 37:36

New theme music.

Andy 37:36

Yeah, there you go. He's a. He's a really interesting guy. I never knew him, but, like, I. My mom talks a lot about him, and I have several things that. That were his. He was. He started a mandolin Club when he was in college. And like the, the first, like in. I can't remember what year it was, but like in the tens. The 1910s. Yeah. So cool. So I was thinking about writing a. Like I was going to write a blog post about this on Woodclinched and Johnny, you had a really good idea. Make a zine. So I think I'm making a zine out of this.

Johnny 38:13

I mean, a blog post wouldn't do it justice. It's just a post. You could do like a whole blog about this for like a year.

Andy 38:20

Yeah, that's true. So, yeah, it's a lot of fun. I've enjoyed these little things and eventually when I get back to Indiana to help my parents kind of like go through stuff and move out, I'm sure that there's more.

Johnny 38:33

Are they staying in town?

Andy 38:35

Yep, staying in town. Just moving to a smaller place since they don't have a bunch of kids who live with them anymore. Yeah.

Johnny 38:43

Cool.

Andy 38:44

That is it for my fresh points. How about you, Jenny?

Johnny 38:47

Well, mine seemed really boring after that, but one of them is bright Nina Astro brights that lots of people, including Andy and I use for zines. They make a loose leaf paper now and so gorgeous. Yeah, it's not as thick. It's not 24 pound. It's 20, but 20 is really thick for loose leaf and it's got a smooth finish. It's like freaking amazing. It's totally fountain pen friendly, but it's, you know, brightly colored, so distorts your ink a little bit. But it feels very good. So, yeah, I think what were they, like $2.90 something cents with prime shipping on Amazon or something. So go nuts, get some colorful paper. But it only has white roll. So I wrote a letter on it recently and I'm like, wow, that's like big handwriting. I should use a crayon to write this. And also thank you to Paula. Paula sent me some cool mangos, including the xl. So it's a fat hex pencil. It's so awesome. And finally I got the new Parker51 fountain pen. And are we allowed to say the S word on this podcast? Because I really want to say, holy, this thing is so pretty. So I have some 51s and it could be because, you know, I was born in 1979 when they weren't new anymore and I've never seen a new one. But this thing is so shiny. It's really pretty. So I wrote my first fountain pen review that I think publishes itself tomorrow. So I'm probably gonna get A lot of, like, you don't know what you're talking about.

Tim 40:29

Console revolution.

Andy 40:30

Just, just on. Just on the main.

Tim 40:33

Yeah, like you need like a dark web version of your website.

Johnny 40:38

I referenced the fact that I have no idea what I'm talking about several times. So hopefully I won't get trolled if anybody reads it.

Andy 40:44

But don't worry, we'll troll you.

Johnny 40:47

You know, when this.

Tim 40:48

Don't worry, Johnny, you got your backup

Johnny 40:50

when they announced that everybody started crapping all over it without, you know, having seen it or held it or written with it. So I'm suspicious of anyone that reviews it right now. So the gentleman stationer, Joe and Evan at Inquisition, they both reviewed it and I trust their opinions and their opinions were largely positive and in line with mine. And also if you do a like, one thing people say is it's expensive because the list price is like 108 bucks. I think if you adjust for inflation, the old one's like 140 or 160 bucks. So score. And you know, this one won't melt inside from the terrible ink. But yeah, it's. I got the steel in black and I really, really want the gold one in plum. But we just spent all our Amazon credit card points on something else. So I gotta wait a while. But I'm dropping major hints around the house and I had one more fresh point. No, I forgot what it was. So we'll jump on to. Yeah, that's the picture.

Andy 42:02

I just. While you were talking and I was listening, I found that picture that somebody posted, I think Chris Jones did. And I just photoshopped that corner of the volume 233 on or 223 on top of it. So definitely what he got through.

Tim 42:17

Very cool. I'm excited.

Andy 42:19

I love.

Johnny 42:19

That's a great picture too. I'm stoked. So, you know, we all have pencils we love that we might not want to sharpen, but you know, this has been going around the group lately a lot. What good are pencils that you don't sharpen? So we actually asked that exact question back in episode six. And this time our answers will probably be different because where wiser slash older and there are new pencil sharpeners from which we can pick. So tonight we're going to take another look at pencil sharpeners and I don't remember, I think last time we did, we did this by category, like hand sharpeners, crank sharpeners or whatever. So I thought this time we could just do a free for all and just throw them out there. What do you like, do you want to go first?

Tim 43:09

Sure. Yeah. I've got kind of three. I guess I ended up with like three categories within what I picked. So I picked my favorite crank sharpener and then I picked my favorite kind of utility sharpener, kind of the use it with everything and then my favorite long point sharpener. So I, for the crank sharpener I picked the, the Uni KH20, which is the one that looks like the Android logo looks like the alien and I. So this is the one that. It also uses the rubber teeth to hold the pencil in place so it doesn't put the bite marks in it. It's like 20. I think I got it for like 22 bucks on Amazon or something like that. And I've over the years have become such a fan of the MMX and, or in similarly soft pencils and I've found that this sharpener's point with an MMX core is perfect. So like as far as like extending the life of a, of a softer core pencil, I just, it's just like a perfect little nirvana for me. I think it's a, it's a long point that doesn't crack off and also it just gives me plenty of writing time with my, you know, beloved volume four, Mars Black Wings and stuff like that. So I love that one. I still have the classroom friendly and it's actually been like blowing the mind of some of my coworkers at my new school who like come to my desk and use my pencil sharpener all the time. So like that thing is incredible. So I was like, yes, I know I can teach you many things, but yeah, so that is my favorite. I keep that one at home though. And then as far as a utility sharpener, the one that I probably use more often than anything else is the, the M R Bullet sharpener with the keychain loop that we got from CW pencils. I use it, just constantly use it every day. I think I've changed the blade once and that thing just holds up. It puts a perfect point. I. That's my, that's my sharpener of choice period. With harder pencils like the. I've, I've used like the, the KH20 and the super long point sharpeners and stuff with like a forest choice. But there's nothing better than a forest choice sharp sharpened with something like this keychain bullet. Just the, the angle of that, that, that, that point is just, is just perfect. Doesn't feel too scratchy. I just absolutely love it. So. And it's so convenient the Thing's amazing. One of my students was trying to like make fun of me for having a pencil sharpener on my keychain because I pulled it out and I was

Andy 45:57

like, joke's on you, dude.

Tim 45:59

You get to my. I was like, you get to my age. You cannot threaten my, My masculinity with anything like this. Like, I. I know I've got it figured out, so you'll get there someday, you stupid kid. I was like, I, I am. You have no idea how good I have it with the sharpener, but I love that thing so much. And then my last one, which I know, Johnny, you'll have something to say about this, is I really love the black wing sharpener. So the single hole, it's kind of like a. It's like a semi concave point or whatever. It's not like a long. It doesn't have a long collar on it, but definitely puts a long point on a pencil. And I know, I've heard from other people and just seen it around that some people get duds, apparently or get ones that aren't great. I have two because I had one and then I thought I lost it and then I bought another one and then I found the other one and both of mine worked great.

Andy 46:49

Yeah.

Johnny 46:49

Who got it?

Tim 46:50

I have zero complaints.

Johnny 46:51

I think Brad got a dud and they sent him a new one. He was like, it was definitely a dude.

Tim 46:57

Sucks for Black Wing. That's like, that's like the one person. It's like that guy, that basketball player. I don't know if you remember, like Duke Zion Williamson, who's like the biggest college basketball player in the universe, and he had a pair of Nikes that like broke into pieces on the feet, on the court when he was running. If I was Nike, I'd be like, no, we sent him the one pair of shoes that like disintegrated under his feet and like injured him.

Andy 47:26

Yeah.

Tim 47:26

But yeah, it's like of all the people to get the dud, Brad.

Johnny 47:29

Yeah. Like, what's that verse in the Bible that you know to be nice to people? Because you never know if it might be your own angel or supernatural being. Like you should just.

Tim 47:39

Or an influential watch, stationary block.

Johnny 47:42

Watch your quality control because you don't know who's going to buy your stuff.

Tim 47:48

Yeah. Or test it before you send it to somebody. You know, like that. But. But I love the thing. I have one in my. I keep one in my backpack at all times and then I have one at home and I use it a ton. And this, the thing is just. It's super durable, which I love. I've never changed the blades on them since I got them. But I'm. I see that they have those available now, which is a huge bonus. I'm excited about that. So this is kind of like a. You know, like there's that comb sharpener that was like in a jar. Oh yeah, I have one next to my little jar. Yeah, I had, I ordered two of those and both of those damn things showed up broken. And so I was like, never mind. Like I'm not trying anymore. Like the sharpener part broke out of the inside and I was like, you know what? No, my. Forget it. Because that was like perfect in my head. Like, because it was small, it held the, the, the clippings or. Why can't I think of the word. The shavings. It holds, holds the shavings. It's not fingernails.

Andy 48:47

You have a jar, a jar that you clip your fingernails into.

Tim 48:51

Do you guys watch what was that, that show on Nickelodeon, Angry Monsters? Was that what it was called or what was it called?

Andy 48:56

Ah, Real Monsters.

Tim 48:58

Handy. Ah, real Monsters, yes. And there was like that like human fingernails and toenails were like their currency.

Andy 49:04

That's right.

Tim 49:06

Yeah. And they had like, they had like jar. They would like go into this guy's, this guy. There's this creepy. This is on Nickelodeon, for crying out loud. There's like this guy who like saved his fingernails for some reason they would like sneak in, steal his jars of fingernails to use as like money.

Andy 49:19

I literally have not thought about that show in 20 years.

Tim 49:22

You're welcome. You're welcome. But yeah, and it was so that like Coomb sharpener was like perfect. But then they broke and broke. So now this is the next best thing and probably even better because it's obviously more durable. So it, it holds the shavings and it puts a good point that I'm happy with. And it's. I hear good looking, so I'm.

Johnny 49:43

Who sharp.

Tim 49:44

I'm all for it.

Johnny 49:44

Are one of you sharpening a pencil?

Andy 49:47

Oh, I was, I'm sorry, I was unscrewing my, my blackwing sharpener.

Johnny 49:52

Oh no, I thought you were sharpening a pencil. I'm like, cool, that's very fitting. Yeah, I like that sharpener a lot and like, I really like the point. It gives. But after you use it a couple times, you have to empty it. And the way it comes apart when you empty it is like as I'm doing right now, it's a big source of Frustration. And the way they packaged it, you

Andy 50:13

have to unscrew it approximately 300 turns,

Johnny 50:15

and then the two pieces fall apart while you're putting it back together.

Tim 50:19

I love it because you can spin it.

Johnny 50:22

Yeah.

Tim 50:22

Well, I love, like, when you're opening it and you can just kind of flick your thumb and it spins and it's like. I love that. But I actually love, like, when you pour out, like, all the clippings that are inside and there's sometimes where you're doing it and it just keeps coming. It seems like something out of like, Willy Wonka where it's like, keeps pouring shavings out of it. You're like, they just keep coming.

Johnny 50:40

There's more.

Tim 50:41

There's more.

Johnny 50:46

Yeah, the.

Tim 50:47

Those are my. Those are my three favorites. They.

Johnny 50:49

The blades came out and someone posted a picture and I thought it was a sharpener because there's a whole lot of packaging for those little blades. But I don't know, I guess, are

Tim 51:00

they curved packaged by Mr. Bean

Johnny 51:04

put some yogurt or do they curve when you screw it on?

Tim 51:08

Does it love. Love actually joke there for you? Oh, yeah, Yeah.

Johnny 51:16

I like that pencil. That sharpener came in. The. The box that came in was so pretty that I don't take that sharpener anywhere because I don't want to get messed up.

Tim 51:28

That.

Johnny 51:28

And, you know, it wasn't that long after it came out that we weren't going anywhere. There's that true.

Andy 51:35

I think we. I think I took mine to. To Baltimore and like, that was right after I got it.

Johnny 51:42

Oh, my God, what a year.

Tim 51:44

I don't know if I had mine or not. Yeah, I feel like I did. Yeah, no kidding.

Johnny 51:49

On that note, that's.

Tim 51:52

Yeah, that's. Yeah, we're. We're just sitting here all pensively reflecting.

Andy 51:57

Pencil is of.

Tim 51:59

Pencil of. So, Andy, what. What are your. Your top three?

Andy 52:07

Well, I definitely have that black ink sharpener at the top of my list. I. Ever since that came out, that has been my sort of like just desk and backpack sharpener of choice. And then. And then as Johnny said right afterwards, just my desk sharpener of choice. Because I don't carry. I don't carry around my stuff anymore. And it just like, it's the perfect combination of a portable, like. Like a portable sharpener, like something you can just throw into a bag and just that, like, long point in a. In a way that, like. And you know, it holds its own. It holds its own shavings. Like it just. For me, it isn't quite as, like, over the top as the masterpiece is like, I love the masterpiece, but like it's not as fussy as that. Right. Like, you don't have to start. It's not a two stage. So I'm a big fan of. Yeah. Of just like the balance that it has. It feels really balanced. It's a long point, not too long. It's curved like a tapered point, but it's not too tapered. It's really portable, but it's not tiny. Tiny like my keychain one is. So really love the balance. I, you know, for. For all the. All of its flaws, I still really, really love a classroom friendly sharpener. I think I just got. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've just gotten used to wrapping a little bit of a post it note around it so the teeth don't claw into like get itself into the wood. But I still use that all the time. Like it's so freaking sharp. Like you can just, just wield that as a weapon after you've sharpened something in the classroom friendly.

Tim 53:48

I. I've just stopped caring altogether. I just put it in there and let it chew it up. I just, I got, I got tired. I got tired of that. So I just, I just let it.

Andy 53:58

Yeah.

Tim 53:59

Let it leave its mark.

Andy 53:59

I was.

Tim 54:01

Battle scars.

Andy 54:01

Yeah.

Johnny 54:02

Okay. Sorry. Do either. Do either of you have the yellow one?

Andy 54:09

No, I have the green one and the blue one.

Johnny 54:13

Yeah, I really like the yellow one.

Tim 54:14

Red.

Johnny 54:15

But I want to know someone that has black. I have a feeling it gets very gross.

Andy 54:20

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I bet that yellow one is just like filthy real quick.

Johnny 54:25

Yeah. Charlotte has the pink one and it gets foul, like really quickly.

Andy 54:30

Yeah. But it's still just such a. Yeah, just. Just the point that puts on it is so nice. And they're just really durable. Like, I don't know how many times I've dropped mine

Johnny 54:40

on your foot.

Tim 54:41

I was really.

Andy 54:42

Yeah.

Tim 54:46

It was really satisfying to get to a point when I was teaching middle school and my kids were like obsessed with using my classroom friendly sharpener that I actually had to order a replacement blade. I was like, yeah. Like, I just achieved. Like, I, like, I just got a badge, like a pencil. Pencil nerd badge or something. Like. Yeah. But we actually had to replace it and it was great. It was so exciting to get it. It was like, to actually, like, use my classroom money and be like, what are you ordering? I'm like, I'm ordering a replacement blade for my pencil sharpener. Like, you're what? Like, yes.

Andy 55:20

You mean you don't just use A Boston that's been hanging on the wall since the 50s.

Johnny 55:23

Oh, yeah.

Tim 55:24

Well, I would if it was there, but it wasn't. But it's like. But, but the alternative is you're not going to go to Walmart and spend 18 on a crappy electric sharpener until it dies and then buy another one

Johnny 55:35

that' credit ones that never quite work at all.

Andy 55:39

Yeah. Oh, yeah, no torque. My other favorite, which I wanted to put a short point on here.

Tim 55:46

You got to have torque.

Andy 55:47

Yeah, you got to have torque.

Tim 55:50

You gotta have torque.

Andy 55:55

So I have a short point sharpener that I have in mind and actually I haven't used it in years. Um, which reminds me, I need to buy a new one, but I really like the sonic Rachetta. Um, are, are you too familiar with that?

Tim 56:07

Yeah, I like, I like that one.

Andy 56:09

It has like sort of a ratchet movement on it. Yeah. So you don't have to spin it. You just sort of like move it back and forth and it ratchets. Um, yeah, that's, that's really nice.

Johnny 56:18

They make a new one. They have a new one that has two holes that I'll do a fat pencil on the other end. I just saw it on the Internet this past weekend.

Andy 56:27

Have to look that one up.

Tim 56:28

That's cool.

Andy 56:28

Yeah. Yeah, they don't have it at Jetpens yet, I don't think.

Johnny 56:34

Yeah, they market them in the US under Bostitch. I don't know, I guess because people have heard of that.

Andy 56:40

Interesting.

Johnny 56:41

But if you search on Amazon for like the Bostitch ratchet sharpener, you'll find that double hole. Yeah, because I want one.

Andy 56:54

But it has a really nice, a nice sharp like for a, for a little tiny like $6 handheld plastic sharpener. It has a really nice sharp point and it's, it's adjustable too. At least a single hole one. You can do a fine point or a broad point and it's, it kind of, it's cool looking. It looks like a little space capsule. And yeah, it's a, it's a short point, so I like that one a lot. So that's it for my three. I mostly just use those first two. Almost all of my pencils are long point, but I, I do like a short point every now and then. Tim, Johnny, how about you? What is your, what are your sharpeners of choice?

Johnny 57:36

First I'm going to go with the M and R keyhole sharpener that Tim mentioned, but I have to change the blades on mine all the time. I don't know what I do. Maybe I don't, I don't have a lot of keys. Maybe they get banged up a lot and I have dropped it a thousand times. So to get my blade in I actually have to like shove it in in a weird way because I've bent the brass. But I'm really attached to it. I'm not getting another one. I really like the things. Yeah. The lip at the bottom where it goes over the blade. I smash that in.

Tim 58:11

Damn.

Johnny 58:12

Yeah. Nothing. I wasn't doing anything cool. It was just one of the drops. You hit it just the right way

Tim 58:18

but it didn't like block a bullet from hitting you because it was in your breast pocket or something.

Johnny 58:22

No, I wouldn't keep my keys.

Tim 58:25

Just imagine something really dramatic. Yeah. I don't know why anybody would. But I just like bullet sharpener, you know.

Johnny 58:31

Yeah. And it's just a great sharpener because you have it with you that, you know, they always say the best camera is the one that's on you. The best sharpener is the one that's for some reason dangling from my three keys. And along those lines of sharp points that I don't like on a sharpener. I really like the single hole long

Tim 58:51

point sharpener from kum, but that was my honorary mention. Like that was the one that I almost put on my list. I like that one too.

Johnny 58:59

Yeah. But it's too sharp. So in the spring I took two and I sanded the corners down and then sanded off that really terrible finish so that it's like super raw aluminum. And I recently polished it with some metal polish. And like, you know, this is super obsessive. But now it's better because I can put it in my pocket without putting a hole in my thigh. Because you know, it doesn't, it doesn't put the kind of point that a masterpiece puts. But it's a little longer than the regular two step. So it's very serviceable, portable long point. And it doesn't taper so it's a little stronger. Like it's, it's great sharpener. And I should put a link in the show notes. The pencil things that we've talked about before they sell them. But the stock that they have is the short lived bead blasted version which I don't know if it's magnesium or aluminum.

Tim 59:53

Yeah.

Johnny 59:53

But it, it's sure that really sharp looking.

Andy 59:56

I'm such an, it is such an interesting, just sort of like time capsule from like 10, 12 years ago. Like. Yeah, they still have stock of things and I Just don't understand because I don't think that they refill stock.

Johnny 1:00:09

They still have palominos and H. Maybe

Tim 1:00:12

they literally are posting things from the past.

Andy 1:00:14

Yeah, it's just a time machine.

Tim 1:00:15

It's like a time travel situation.

Johnny 1:00:17

Yeah, they're. I think they charge two bucks for them, which is, you know, pretty much the going. The low end of the going rate. So.

Andy 1:00:23

Are you talking about what. What they're calling the stenograph lung point?

Johnny 1:00:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The last time I ordered some, I guess it was this time last year, give or take, they came and they were the bead blaster ones, and I only bought one. Like, oh, my God, I want more of these. So I ordered five and they had a lot left. If there are more left in a week, I might buy some more.

Andy 1:00:46

We'll sell them out if we mention it here.

Tim 1:00:48

Yeah.

Johnny 1:00:49

The last one is the sharpener that I actually use constantly, every day. And that is my beloved X acto School Pro Big Ass Electric Pencil sharpener. That. Is that part of the name? Yeah, that. They redesigned it last year, I think just now.

Andy 1:01:08

Big Ass on it.

Johnny 1:01:09

Yeah. It's black. And on the website they call it the Big Ass Tough as a Mofo Pencil Sharpener or the kids and I refer to it as the Beast because the Beast. Like, I didn't want to write a review of it for Pencil Revolution because I don't have a lot of experience with electric sharpeners to contextualize it, but you can, you know, be listening to NPR so loud you can't hear anything and you can feel it sharpen and then stop because it's just like all

Andy 1:01:41

the lights in Roland park just sort of dim when Johnny sharpens his pencils. Yeah.

Johnny 1:01:45

And you know, as one does just in case, because I've noticed that X Acto doesn't keep their models around for a long time. I have an extra one in the box under my bed just in case I for some reason need another one. And yeah, this. It's different from the last one. Yeah.

Andy 1:02:03

I wonder. Change. I want to talk about this thing. It has. It has holes for triangular pencils.

Johnny 1:02:11

Yeah. The old one didn't have the big holes for triangular pencils. Like, I don't. There aren't a lot of triangular pencils that fit this thing. But if you have a fat triangular pencil, it really does make a difference. And also any.

Andy 1:02:26

I'm looking at the Amazon listing right now, and they have a sharpened. Like the third product image on Amazon is like this sharpened pencil, but it's like, horribly crooked.

Johnny 1:02:37

Yeah, that's the other thing. Frankie has the previous version of the school pro that's in our dining room, and sharpeners that hold a fat pencil. If you put a regular pencil in there, sometimes they'll sharpen off centered. Like, sometimes my doll does that. But with this one, if you hold it still, it doesn't do that. It'll just sharpen your pencil perfectly centered.

Andy 1:02:59

It's.

Johnny 1:02:59

It's amazing. And it's noticeably faster and more powerful than the previous model, and it takes up a little less room. It's really narrow, so it's. It's amazing. Last time I emptied it, I actually had to vacuum it because there's a cavity in there that you can't see. So it can hold, like, half a trash can of sharpeners, of shavings. So, like, I took the. The. The tray out, and it's just like, all this wood is falling. I'm like, what the hell? And I look up inside there, and this caked everywhere. I had to vacuum it, but it sounds amazing.

Tim 1:03:34

Yes.

Johnny 1:03:34

You can sharpen a woepex, and the auto stop works, and it's perfect. And you can put something that looks like a missile on a fat pencil. The only thing is, we figured out the hard way that vintage fat pencils are just a little too fat. And I, like, mangled this. I don't remember what it was. Something really cool and old that I wanted. And the older one will take a slightly fatter pencil. And the stop that actuates the motor in. This is not in there very far, which is why I'm not. I keep it where the kids can't get to it, because you could really put your finger in there and take the point off or the tip off. I bet if you had small fingers and you put your fingers in things.

Andy 1:04:17

There's only one way to find out.

Johnny 1:04:19

Yeah, I mean, when. When Charlotte was a baby, she put her finger in a fan and, like, chopped off her fingernail, and I was like, how bad is that? And I shoved a field notes pencil in there, and it chopped it in half. So I'm paranoid. This is why all the fans that we have at home are tower fans that don't have blades. But, yeah, like, I feel silly because, you know, David Rees had that really cool chapter about how to use an electric pencil sharpener, which is basically smashing it to pieces and then eating a sandwich. But I'm home all the time, so, you know, portability isn't an issue. And it's, you know, your pencil's Dull. You stick it in there without even looking at it or thinking about it, and bam, your pencil is ready to rock again. So I dig it a lot. It's also possibly the perfect point. It's long, but not stupid. And the auto stop never, ever fails. And it was like, 35 bucks. It was not expensive. I think it has a warranty for two years or something, which doesn't seem very long. Yeah, so I don't think any of these were on our list before. Except maybe the classroom friendly, maybe. Yeah, it had to be, because you

Tim 1:05:33

guys probably knew about it. I think that was right around when I had first discovered it.

Andy 1:05:36

But yeah, I, I, I feel like I heard about it maybe from you, Johnny, or maybe from Pencil Talk. And then I just, like, emailed the guy and he was like, yeah, here's a free one. He was really trying to get it out there.

Johnny 1:05:53

Yeah. And I mean, everybody's heard of it at this point. And I don't know how much that cost. It used to be, like, what, 20 bucks? And that included shipping. Totally not bad. And they have more colors now. They used to just have that green. Hint, hint. I want the yellow one. I'm gonna buy it. I'm gonna do it. But yeah, I have two green ones and a black one and a purple one. And Charlotte has a pink one. The purple one is for Rosie when she's old enough that I can trust her with a big piece of metal that sharpens things. Just not anytime soon. So moving on, should we do our backers first or our closing first?

Andy 1:06:37

I don't know. Whatever you feel like.

Johnny 1:06:39

I think do the backers first so I don't run out of breath.

Andy 1:06:42

Yeah.

Johnny 1:06:43

So this is actually in alphabetical order by first name this time around.

Andy 1:06:48

Do you want to give some context about what you have to do?

Johnny 1:06:51

Oh, yeah, man. I'm brain dead tonight. Everybody who sponsors us on Patreon at $10 a month has a producer credit. And like, every time you put this on here, it's a much longer list. So many, many, many thanks to the following folks. Adam Prebble, Alex Jonathan Brown, Ali Sarah Allison Sapita, Andre Torres, Andrew Squish, Ann Sipe, Bob Ostwald, Bobby Letzinger, Chris Jones, Chris L. Crit smetskis. Dave McDonald, Dave Tubman, Diana Oakley, Aaron Willard, fourth letter. Hans Noodleman, Harry Marks, Hunter McCain, Jocelyn Myers, James Dominguez, Jason Dill, Jason Santa Maria Jay Newton, Jamelia Joe Crace, John Bannon, KP Kathleen Rogers, Kelton Wiens Kyle Mary Collis, Measure Twice. Michael D'. Alosa, Michael Hagan, Millie Blackwell, A.O. pryor, Paul Moorhead, Random Thinks, Stephen Frascali, Stuart Lennon, Tana Feliz and Terry Beth.

Andy 1:07:55

Holy cow. Holy cow.

Johnny 1:07:57

Thank you all so much.

Andy 1:07:59

Thank you.

Johnny 1:08:00

And I don't know what's better, a T shirt or having your name read by us.

Andy 1:08:04

I mean, why not both, right?

Johnny 1:08:07

I mean, you can buy a T shirt. Well, I guess you could buy this too.

Andy 1:08:12

And those of you at that level, if you. If you're listening to this and have not looked at your Patreon feed or gotten an email about it, please go fill out a survey so I can get your T shirt size and make sure your address is up to date. And I will make sure you get a T shirt by April,

Johnny 1:08:28

which is in Covid time. Like tomorrow.

Andy 1:08:31

Yep.

Johnny 1:08:32

Or in three years.

Tim 1:08:33

No.

Johnny 1:08:35

So do you guys want to tell folks where they can find you online?

Andy 1:08:41

Yeah, I am@andy WTF? Or you can find me on Instagram and on the other one Twitter at

Johnny 1:08:49

a Wealthley and on Etsy@etsy.com shop woodclinched.

Andy 1:08:55

Oh, that's right.

Tim 1:09:00

You can find me Tim Wasem on Twitter at Tim Wasem. And I'm on Instagram at Timothy Wasom.

Johnny 1:09:07

And you can find me@pencilrevolution.com Be sure to read my very first fountain pen review, which makes me feel kind of icky. You can find me on social media ensolution and we are the Erasable Podcast. You can catch us at ERASABLE US this episode 158 will be available at ERASABLE US158. You can find us on social media at Erasable Podcast on Twitter and Instagram. On Facebook, you can find us at Erasable podcast. And we have the Facebook group Erasable, which is a facebook.com groups erasable, which is the nicest corner of the Internet. People say so. Thank you and we will talk to you again on the Ides of Merch

Andy 1:09:55

Beware the Ides of Merch. Do you like our piece? Most people like our podcast. But if you like our podcast, David will turn it off.