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Tim 0:00

Just like I said on that ipod. They call it primitive, but I call it living. Hello, and welcome to episode 116 of the Erasable podcast. I'm Tim Wasem, Johnny's youngest son, on honcho duties tonight, and I'm joined by Mike Hagan of leadfast and my usual co host, Johnny Gamber. Greetings, fellas.

B 0:25

I'm Johnny's oldest son.

Johnny 0:27

Yep, his middle name is John. We call him mj.

Tim 0:34

Well, Andy is preparing for a trip out of town and won't be with us tonight. But we miss him so much.

Johnny 0:38

We miss you, Andy.

Tim 0:40

Coming off of our super long episode last time about riding outside, we thought we'd play it fast and loose and just stick to the tools of the trade and fresh points with our pal Mike. So, Mike, thanks again for joining us.

B 0:50

My talented Mr. Ripleying of Andy is nearly complete.

Tim 0:57

Excellent.

Johnny 0:58

Now you just have to ransomware.

B 1:00

I just gotta go work at Adobe.

Tim 1:04

You just show up one day at his desk.

B 1:06

Hey, I'm Andy, guys.

Johnny 1:07

Yeah, well, Mike hasn't told you he's podcasting from his car. He said it straight west.

Tim 1:12

So if I cut out 15 miles an hour, passing through Colorado right now.

Johnny 1:17

Yeah. All kinds of states with poor Internet service. Sorry.

Tim 1:23

Come on, Skype. Play nice. Yeah. All right, well, let's just jump right in. Tools of the trade. Mike, guest of honor. Why don't you get us started?

B 1:32

All right, well, for consuming, I have recently picked up the Bullet Journal method book that everyone was talking about about a couple months ago, because I'm, like, really far behind on everything. And so I've been reading that. I've had kind of like, followed all the YouTube videos and the website and just Bullet journaling in general, but I kind of wanted to read the. Everything from the horse's mouth. So I just picked up the book and I'm about halfway in.

Tim 2:02

It's.

B 2:03

It's okay. It gets a little like, you know, I don't know, flowery for me, but, you know, he. He talks, like, deep thoughts about, you know, just writing stuff down in a journal. It's kind of. Yeah. So then I've been obviously, like 90% of the country watching the Game of Thrones final season and also kind of meh about it with the dragons, right?

Tim 2:29

Yeah, yeah.

B 2:30

But I'm not like, like, super up in arms, like half of Twitter, so. And then I've just been watching the. I think it's season 150 now of the Chicago Cubs.

Tim 2:42

Yes. They've been on a tear.

B 2:45

They have been on a tear. They haven't lost a series in like 11 series now or something like that.

Tim 2:51

So like 23 and 7.

B 2:53

Yeah, yeah, something ridiculous. So. And Kyle Hendricks almost had through a Synderguard last night if he could have gotten into the ninth inning or through the ninth inning but. And I'm riding with old auto point double headed, you know those like mechanical pencils that like on one side's like the regular like core and it's black and then the, the tip like on like where the head would be is like red and has a. Another point and so I just have the same lead on both sides though. It's. I got this at a garage sale like five years ago or something and just found it in a box and I was like oh, I want to put some lead in this. And the only thing that fits in it is this 9 millimeter pentel HB lead that I have. So I. And working with that and on a Baron Fig Mastermind mini desk pad. That's the one that's about. I don't know, it's about the size of a. A5 book.

Johnny 3:51

I like that one.

B 3:52

Yeah, I do too.

Tim 3:53

Yeah, that one's nice.

B 3:55

So I feel like sometimes like for the size, you know, next to the computer or next to the mouse, you know, type of writing pad that's like pretty much perfect size. The. The bigger one is probably more for like I don't know under the computer under, underneath where you're typing or something.

Tim 4:13

But and that reminds me, I was thinking the other day that one big ob like an obvious hole in the already huge Baron Fig lineup is they need, they need to start selling just that paper like by the sheet, you know.

B 4:28

Oh yeah, or legal pad version of it.

Tim 4:31

That would be nice legal pad. But like I would totally write letters on. On those. On that paper if I. Oh yeah,

B 4:37

I do get by the sheet all the time. Just especially. That's another good reason for this like desk pad mini. The Mastermind mini is just like tear off a sheet at the top. It's kind of I guess like a legal pad except for you can't really fold it over but it's like it is like glued at the top if you you know, hold it in portrait and so I don't know, I'll just rip one off and like write a letter real quick or something like a quick note or something and throw it in on envelope. It works perfectly on those like per. You know like letter sized envelopes too. Those kind of just generic letter size ones. You don't need to get A big business envelope. You know, dork grid. Dork grid?

Tim 5:12

Is that what you said? Some plain.

Johnny 5:16

If you turn it over, it's blank.

B 5:18

That's true. Blank on one side. It depends how you open.

Johnny 5:26

Do it upside down, Tim. Geez.

Tim 5:28

Jeez. Come on. Why are there dumb dots on the back of your letter? I don't understand.

Johnny 5:33

You set it down on something.

B 5:36

Yeah, so that's what I've been riding on tonight for the podcast. Anyway. What about you, Johnny?

Johnny 5:45

Awkward silence. So I just read a book called the Paris Wife, which is about Henry's first. Henry's Hemingway's first wife, Hadley Richardson. So if you like Hemingway, you probably heard of this book and I didn't for some reason. We're in 2011. It was 50 years after he died, and a bunch of Hemingway related books came out, including this. It was kind of like hard to get into at first because I don't really care that much about Hadley Richardson, like, until she met Hemingway. So, like, that was kind of slow, but after that was pretty interesting. You can't read anything about Hemingway, right. The these days without reading about what a jerky was and how much he drank and stuff like that. So it was like that, but also interesting.

Tim 6:31

And tried to spy for the KGB or whatever.

Johnny 6:34

Oh, man. Yeah. And like, you know, there are other periods of his life that might have been more interesting to write a book about because, you know, there's already a film about Hemingway and Gellhorn, which was like freaking terrible because Clive Owen cannot play Hemingway because Hemingway doesn't have a badly covered up British accent. And. But yeah, I mean, I'd want to see something about him and Pauline that would be interesting. But I read another, you know, mental health book called On Edge that's about one person's anxiety that was interesting. If you have those sorts of interests or problems, you might enjoy that book. And I got sucked into watching Prime Suspect Tennyson, which is sort of like a prequel to the cop show with Helen Mirren called Prime Suspect. That was obviously just like a rip off the Endeavor thing, but it sucked. Like, it wasn't very interesting.

B 7:33

Andy, where do you. Or Andy. Johnny, where do you watch all that? All that, like, British TV stuff?

Johnny 7:39

Oh, so we have a subscription to Brit Box, but this was on Amazon.

B 7:45

Oh, okay.

Tim 7:45

Brit Box.

Johnny 7:47

Yeah, Brit Box. So Brit Box is a streaming service where you can watch like, contemporary British programs for like six bucks a month. But, like, they have weird licensing fee situations where, like, if you want to watch Shetland, which is not on Netflix anymore, you can't watch the old seasons, so you're just like, who's this guy? But they have like all the old Doctor who, all the old Poirot and Inspector Morse. So there's some cool stuff on there. I don't know if we're gonna keep it, but yeah, I also finished Endeavor, which I think I might have before the last time we record it, which is a prequel to Inspector Morse. But, like, he's not such a jerk and he's not yelling at Lewis all the time because Lewis doesn't exist. And it's a lot better than the regular Morse. It's really, really, really good. Like, so delicious and awesome. And I think season six comes on soon. I've already seen it because I have my ways. But he's got a mustache now, so that's worth watching for. But I am writing. Yeah, I'm writing with the general Cedar point number one in a right notepads, the deep notebook, AKA the big ass octopus notebook. Yeah. How about you, Tim?

Tim 9:06

Before I talk about what I'm consuming, I'm going to acknowledge what my dog is consuming right now because I can see the little dots on my recorder. Reading him chewing on a bone behind me, but just. Just acknowledging that Theo is going to town on a bone. And he is. He's locked in with me so he doesn't wake up the littles upstairs because I'm. I'm home alone with. With everybody right now. So that's what that noise is. If you hear any weird crackling in the background, Theo is doing his thing. But I have been watching on Netflix, they have a new show called Street Food. Guys seen this yet?

Johnny 9:44

Oh, I saw the preview.

Tim 9:46

It's great. Yeah, it's awesome. It's like a they. It's sort of in the same vein as like an Anthony Bourdain kind of show, but without the personality of like, the host. So it's just the people who he's talking to. So they. Every season is going to be a different area of the world. And so this one's Asia. It's like, specific. Is it Southeast Asia?

B 10:09

Yeah. I mean, I think I've only seen two episodes. I saw the, like, the Thailand one and India. Oh, and I saw the Japan one too.

Tim 10:17

Yeah. So anyways, they're all Asian countries in the first season, so in every episode there's like 30 minutes. They'll. They'll profile the street food scene with like a food critic or somebody who's an expert in the area. And then they'll profile two different kind of legends of that street food scene. And yeah, it's really good. It's a really, it's really beautifully shot and get to salivate looking at this food that's cooked. And he's like dumpy street vendor places. So it's really awesome. So check that out. And I'm reading a book actually listening to all my reading right now is all school related stuff. So I'm like reading Gatsby and the Crucible and all those things that I have to read every year. But I'm listening to a book of essays by Sloane Crossley called Look alive out there. And she is a hilarious essay writer. Essayist, if you're interested in like David Sedaris, those kind of essayists. She's very good. She's not the same voice. She has her own very distinct voice. When you listen to the audiobook, you get to hear her voice because she reads it and she does a really good job. But it's a. It's super entertaining collection that I would recommend. And yeah, I think that's it. I've been listening to a lot of tallest man on earth who I've talked about before. But I went and saw him in Asheville a couple weeks ago, two or three weeks ago, and it was an awesome show. So he has, he has a new album out called I think it's called like I love you, Fever Dream or something. It involves love and Fever dream somewhere in there. But it's a really good album. And he recorded the whole thing in his apartment in New York City, which is also makes it extra cool.

Johnny 11:59

Oh, cool.

Tim 12:01

And I am writing with a golden sword pencil HP that Andy sent us after his trip, after his travels. And I'm writing in a pocket Shinola hardback notebook that was given to me that is branded for xq, the super school project, which is the thing that our school is a part of. Oh, cool.

Johnny 12:23

Awesome.

Tim 12:23

Yeah. Did you guys hear that?

Johnny 12:28

Doggy's gonna dog.

Tim 12:29

Dog's gonna dog, Puppy's gonna pup. I'm just gonna let it happen because if I put him outside that door, he's gonna bark his head off.

Johnny 12:36

He might bite you.

Tim 12:38

No, no, he won't do that. He's too nice. But he'll bark because he's a baby. All right, that's all I got. So let's roll right into the fresh points. And Mike, I think you've got something special for us.

B 12:51

Yeah. So did you guys see those twa black wings? Those like red black wings that they did in concert with the twa Hotel?

Johnny 13:01

You mean, did I immediately order two packs?

Tim 13:05

I did not. I had no idea about this until I looked at the, until I looked at the show notes. So that's.

B 13:11

Those things are awesome looking. I didn't buy any. But I wonder when they got posted in the group, I wonder if they were like, wow, why are we all of a sudden getting so many orders for these freaking pencils?

Johnny 13:23

Ye yet. Right. So there was a feature on CBS Sunday Morning the day before about this hotel. And the whole time we watched it, I was like, that is so stupid. Like, that's just something like rich white people do because they don't know what else to do with themselves in New York. But, but then these pencils came out and I'm like, I kind of want to check out.

B 13:43

I just, I just find the whole like hotel idea interesting that like, basically they're just taking this old brand and making junk that you can buy and then plus there's a little hotel.

Johnny 13:53

Yeah, I think it's like 300 bucks a night. Which for New York City is not bad.

Tim 13:57

Right?

B 13:58

I mean, but you are staying out at the airport. I mean, isn't the hotel at the airport?

Johnny 14:03

Yeah, it's a jfk.

B 14:04

Yeah, but I mean. Yeah, I don't know, I just find the whole thing interesting that I mean, if you go on their, like store on their web page, it is just, I mean there's just like, you know, yeti, like drink holders and like all sorts of things. Anything like you could think of, they have slapped the TWA logo on it

Tim 14:24

and made it red.

Johnny 14:25

Yeah, they were like lots of different size daily item.

B 14:27

Yeah, I know. It's just like any, any sort of like cool promotional item has been TWA'd, including black wings.

Johnny 14:37

No notebooks.

B 14:38

Yeah.

Johnny 14:39

Before I checked out, I was like, you can't tell me you guys don't even have some like stupid notebooks that you just like got made at Cafe Press or something.

B 14:46

I wonder if there's some like forthcoming field notes, collaboration.

Johnny 14:50

I was wondering about that. I was like, I might as well bang off my shipping at once.

B 14:55

The only thing that I'm like not into is the fact that these are the pearl core. Because like all the collabs. Yeah, pearl core. I don't know what, what did they do? Order like a bunch of pearls, you know, like pre made and just like paint them different or whatever?

Tim 15:12

I don't know, I wondered about the, the logic of that with the, that doing the custom. It's like, hey, you know what, if we're gonna do custom pencils. Let's do it with our most unpopular core.

Johnny 15:26

If you go on Instagram and search Blackwing, like, there are a lot of people that like the pearl. I don't know why, because I don't know why.

Tim 15:34

But okay, I will say this.

B 15:36

I don't mind the pearl in the number one, the round pencil. Once I took acetone to it and stripped it.

Tim 15:48

Get the sausage lining off.

B 15:49

Yeah. I kind of actually forgot that it was the, the pearl core. And I was writing with it and I was like, man, this is like really great. And then I looked it up again. I was like, oh, yeah, this is the pearl core. But then I was like, well, I kind of like the way this is writing right now.

Johnny 16:04

So, yeah, I feel like the first batch of them were crumbly and kind of junky for that kind of expected quality.

B 16:12

Wasn't the very, very first limited edition a balanced Core two?

Johnny 16:16

Yeah, it was. It was better than the original ones. And then the 33 and the third core was actually like super nice.

B 16:24

I really like the 33 and third too. Yeah, I actually thought that was a 602 core for the longest time.

Johnny 16:32

Yeah. I mean, I don't understand why people like the pearl so much because, I don't know, just doesn't fit. Like, I liked it at first, but I want like a colorful black wing or black or gray. Not shiny white with a white eraser and gold print. Looks like something I don't know from an 80s movie. Not in a good way. Yeah, JR has got a stack of him on his desk on Dallas.

B 17:02

Yeah. So that's, that's my fresh point is the TWA black wings.

Johnny 17:06

Yeah, I, I, so I ordered a dozen of them for my son who turns 6 because he loves the color red and he likes airplanes and he's never had black wings.

B 17:15

That's a no brainer.

Johnny 17:17

Yeah, he's been a jerk lately, so they might give way. Just wait till Christmas.

B 17:20

Wait, your son, Your son Tim. Your youngest son Tim or your.

Tim 17:23

Are you talking about me or Henry?

Johnny 17:24

Henry.

Tim 17:25

Henry.

Johnny 17:26

Bye, Henry.

Tim 17:27

Okay.

Johnny 17:29

You're Henry. Already had a birthday.

Tim 17:31

Yeah, pretty much.

Johnny 17:33

Happy late birthday to Henry Wasum.

Tim 17:34

Yay.

Johnny 17:37

So I only really have one fresh point. Also, I suppose I should, you know, full disclosure, I write for right Notepads blog now, and I don't do it for free. So, you know, maybe what I say about Wright notepads is taken with a grain of salt. But their new edition is so freaking awesome. It's called the Deep and it's blue with A giant octopus on it. I'm like, that's it.

Tim 18:01

Fantastic.

Johnny 18:01

There is no branding on the notebook at all anywhere, which is.

B 18:06

Yeah, those things are pretty cool looking.

Johnny 18:08

Yeah, it's really like. Can we use the word ballsy? Like guts just did. It's brave. They're like, hey, we're not even going to put our brand on this notebook because it's made so well, you know, it's ours.

B 18:21

Yeah. Is it the classic binding or is it stapled?

Tim 18:28

It is two staples, right?

Johnny 18:30

Yeah, it's stapled. So the only thing that sucks about that is there's there are two staples in the beautiful print of the octopus, but there's. I guess there's no way around that.

B 18:38

So are they like completely done with the regular pure binding or whatever?

Johnny 18:43

Chris says no. And I think they're like the regular red, white and blue ones are still pur binding but I don't know if those are just backstock. But they, they make those things they call the paper journal that like the A5 bound books. If they started making those in staple that'd be pretty awesome because yeah, their books are so nice. So you know, it's the usual amazing paper but it's unlined. So for some reason it feels like pencils darker on there. That makes sense. But I'm discovering I don't like black wings on it. There's just too much going on. So I've been trying something a little less black wingy, but also waxy and smooth and really, really nice and wonderful. I think I filled up almost half one today because it felt good. And an appointment got canceled so I had time to myself.

B 19:37

So you write with something harder than a black wing?

Johnny 19:42

Yeah, I was using like a 2004, 2005 era papermate maraudo back when they were pretty light writing and cedar and Made in America. And that was really nice. And the write notepads pencil was nice but I can't write with the write notepads pencil on the right notepads book and also admit that I work for them kinda. So I switched over to the Generals and you know what? I thought it was a number two. That's what I was going for. And I tried for it before. I was like, that's a number one. That's the number one. But yeah, like I. I'm surprised they haven't sold out. The only thing I can think of is that they made a little more because I imagine they wanted to stick around because there's something really summery about these and it is Almost summer. And field notes had a sale like the day before. So I know a couple people in real life who were like, I blew my notebook budget. Like, that sucks.

B 20:37

Oh yeah, because they had the Wednesday thing, right?

Johnny 20:39

Yeah, that was. That was pretty. Oh, that wasn't a fresh point. So if. I mean, people don't know what we're talking about, sometimes field notes will be like, hey, it's Wednesday. Buy something today. And here's something cool you get for free. So they did some blue notebooks and they did some green notebooks. And last week you could pick whichever one you wanted, which was pretty cool. It would have been cooler if they opened them and gave you one of each because it's a two pack. That would have been pretty sweet. But I imagine there'll be a lot of person power hours, so. Yeah.

B 21:08

Because I think they even just come from the printer already wrapped.

Johnny 21:12

Oh, that's true. I hope so, since I get ripped ones all the time. Love you. Love you.

Tim 21:16

Field notes.

Johnny 21:19

I don't. I don't really care much.

B 21:20

I'm pretty sure. I'm. I'm pretty sure they come already belly banded and wrapped.

Johnny 21:25

Yeah, they had that in that. The video for Help Me Ravenswing.

B 21:30

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Johnny 21:31

And how they shrink wrap them is disappointing. It's like they just go into a thing and they get wrapped and like. Oh. I always picture something really cool like shooting the plastic on it, like Spider Man. No dice. No dice.

Tim 21:44

Might be their next video.

Johnny 21:46

Yeah.

Tim 21:47

And the Avengers edition.

Johnny 21:49

When was the last time they did a really great video? I guess the clandestine was cool, but it wasn't about notebooks, so. Not so much. Yeah, yeah. So that. That's my fresh point. How about you, Tim?

Tim 22:03

Well, the first one I've got to mention is that today was our big day for our school. I talked about our student podcast challenge, the last episode we won. And so today was the day that it was on All Things Considered. So that was pretty cool. We had a couple reporters from NPR come about two weeks ago, interviewed teachers and kids and took pictures and all that good stuff. And then they put together like a seven minute segment so you get to hear the kids say a few things and then clips from their podcast. And then the recorder kind of fills in the gaps. Cause they can't play the whole thing. But that was super cool. So like 3 million people got to hear stuff that my students did in my class, which was. Is really, really freaking cool.

Johnny 22:46

There's a picture of Tim.

Tim 22:48

There is a staged picture of me in the hallway outside of my room.

Johnny 22:55

That's the hallway. That's really cool looking.

Tim 22:57

Yeah. They picked the right spot because it's not an attractive school.

Johnny 23:02

If you go onto All Things Considers main page right now, the top story is Tim's class. That is really freaking awesome.

Tim 23:12

Yeah, it's really exciting. The article, if you look it up on npr, it's on the front page of NPR too. Just the main npr.org page is the Town that Hanged an Elephant is Now Working to Save Them. Um, so it's written by Corey Turner and Claire Lombardo. And it's a. It's a good article. And you get. There's a link to listen to the actual whole podcast in there as well. And we had about a thousand people listen to it today, which is also crazy. The number shot up from 4,5000 today.

Johnny 23:40

Yeah. 5.1. Jeez. Yeah, that is wacky. And that doesn't include people that just heard it on the radio.

Tim 23:48

Yeah. Who heard. Yeah. Clips on the 3 million people or whatever who heard clips on the radio.

Johnny 23:52

So that is so awesome.

Tim 23:55

Yeah.

Johnny 23:56

So I feel like you've just like transcendent normal podcaster.

Tim 24:00

Well, remember, I wasn't podcasting, but I was telling the kids. I think I said this last time. But, you know, what you guys did was so much more complicated than what I do on my podcast. I record one thing in a conversation and then send it off to a friend who edits it. But they interviewed like half a dozen people and clipped it all down to 11 minutes from, like five hours and stuff. Like, it was way harder.

Johnny 24:23

I mean, I'm sure they had some inspiration from their teacher.

Tim 24:25

Well, I don't know. Great. They're getting a grade for it. One of those two. Yeah. Fear of failure. But yeah. So I'm going to share that. So if you. We were. It was really cool. We got to hear it sitting at the dinner table. Just had NPR on it came. I got to hear it live on the radio, which was really cool. But there'll be a link in the show notes if you want to listen to it. And then there's a link to the whole podcast. And then through that SoundCloud link that plays the full podcast that they did, which is like 11 minutes long. You can hear the other ones my class did, and they did a lot of really cool stories about a lot of really cool local stories in there. So that's awesome. And I got. So I got a few. Like, I don't know if you guys clicked on the links yet, but I've got a Cool. A few cool. Just kind of like weird pencils in the news kinds of things that I've stumbled across. So the first one which is just does not take very long, but I'm gonna mention it, is I came across the term traumatic tattoos, which, you know, good band name, but have you ever heard.

Johnny 25:32

Yeah. Is that when you get like a pencil stabbed into you?

Tim 25:34

Yeah, I'd never heard that term before, but there was a. It was a. I stumbled across. It was a Reader's Digest article, but it was like referencing a doctor who was explaining why when you stab a pencil into your hand that it never goes away. And I didn't know if we'd ever talked about that on the podcast, but that was just. Yeah, it was cool. It was talking about how like, graphite is. Well, first of all, it's like pure, so it usually doesn't cause infection when it's in there because it's not a. Because it's like a clean substance, so to speak. But. And also our skin. Graphite is one of the things that our skin can't like process and weed out. It can't. What do you call that? Absorb it or push it out. So it usually ends up getting trapped inside and just sticks there until you dig it out. Which I don't recommend and would never. Would never do. But yeah, it was just kind of weird to come across that because also is like, hey, pencils, cool. But at the same time, it was also like, why would you write an article about this? Which is mostly my response. Yeah, saw that. And also this is actually super cool, but I came across this when I first saw it was on a Reddit stream called diy but di w H y like, why would you do that? And what I found was a knife handle that a dude made out of colored pencils. I'm going to send you. I'm going to put this in the show notes so you guys can see this. It's pretty, pretty awesome looking. I don't know if it's going. Maybe it's come across the group. I just don't really pay attention to. Not in there very often, but I'll include on that. So there's the. The knife handle. And I was like, yeah, that's pretty cool. It looks. So they basically like cross section, they put. They glue all these pencils, colored pencils, side by side in a pattern and then cut and I guess they sort of like use a machine to grind it into a shape and then cover it in lacquer. And so it looks like there's these pencils buried within it. I was like, yeah, that's kind of cool. But then. Then I found the same thing done, but making a Fender Stratocaster. So you need to. There's a whole YouTube video where you can, like, watch him do it, but he takes 1200 colored pencils and builds a guitar shaped like a Fender Stratocaster and does the same. The same method. So by the end of it, it's, you know, it's got all. Of course, he gets it all geared up with the electronics and everything. And you can just. If you open the video up, just zoom, like, forward, like eight minutes, eight and a half minutes or something like that. And it looks pretty.

Johnny 28:13

I wonder what the chances of getting to talk to the guy and making a base would be.

Tim 28:18

I'm sure he would do it for the right price.

Johnny 28:21

I'm saying, also not charging me any money for it. A little harder here, you know, I would trade a box of two 11s. Just the body part.

Tim 28:34

That's a funny, funny clip in here.

B 28:37

I've seen a bunch of videos about, like, people just doing that with, like, I don't know, Bolt. Making a bowl out of colored pencils. Or they just, like. I don't know what they. They just, like, put a. Put them all in, like, this bucket and then pour lacquer on them. And then it basically becomes a gigantic wood block. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Tim 28:56

Divided out. Yeah. Well, this one, you can see the whole process. Like, he. He. He cuts them to size and then puts them inside of it and just makes, like, a big square, like, fills the whole. It's like a tray. He basically makes a tray, and he puts them all upright in there and then pours the lacquer in, lets it soak in and dry, and then takes out as just like a big rectangle and then puts weights on top of it. And then once it dries, he uses that to shape the guitar body and everything.

Johnny 29:24

Nice. So I wonder what it sounds like. Like, what's the sound quality?

Tim 29:28

It sounds nice. You can hear him play on the video at the end. Once he gets everything set up, he. He plugs it in and plays. I don't know how to make that through my mic, but.

Johnny 29:37

Yeah, Ibanez was making basses at a Lucite once.

Tim 29:41

Oh, yeah, I remember those.

Johnny 29:42

I wonder if it would sound like that. Okay. I don't know what epoxy is made of.

Tim 29:50

It sounds pretty nice. I'm listening to it right now, which you guys can't enjoy because it's in My headphones, but ice cold, man. Let's see if I can do this, man.

Johnny 30:00

Okay.

Tim 30:10

Yeah. So it's got a pretty, like, warm, nice guitar sound. So. Yeah, so that was that. And then. Yeah. Oh, the other one was just this cool. I came across an article in Philadelphia, in Fishtown. Philadelphia. The Ballards at the end of the wharf, like. Or that, like, go along the road. There's tons of them. And this artist went through and painted all of them to look like yellow number two pencils.

B 30:39

Oh, nice.

Johnny 30:40

That is awesome.

Tim 30:41

So there's tons of pictures in there, but it goes like. I don't know how many he colored. There's just. I've just been looking at these pictures, but there's tons of them. But he. Yeah, he put an eraser and a feral and a number two kind of in like a sloppy Ticonderoga style. So they look kind of, like, imperfect. But also it's just. It's pretty cool. And I would love to just walk down the street in my hometown and come across something like that. That still, like, seems kind of random, but it's pretty cool.

B 31:10

Yeah, those things are awesome.

Tim 31:12

Yeah, it's like. I mean, and some of them are different. They're like all different shapes and sizes. So that's kind of thing I liked about it. As he goes through and just like, whatever they are, he figures out how to turn into a pencil. So it's like some of them have these little caps on them, and he turns those into the erasers and are, like, long and sort of skinny. And some of them are. You can see, like, chunks taken out of them from cars running into him. And he even, like, sort of worked that into it. So, yeah, just a cool little public art and pencil love out there in the city of love, right?

Johnny 31:39

City of brotherly love. And you know what? I'm pretty close to there. Yeah.

Tim 31:44

Go get your picture taken with one. Go hug a. Go. Go hug a bollard.

Johnny 31:49

You know, I will go string a charp between them and sleep there.

Tim 31:53

There you go.

B 31:54

That sounds like a like 1900s insult. Why don't you go hug a bollard?

Tim 32:02

You know what?

Johnny 32:04

Why don't you just sit on a Ballard to your butt, falls asleep and

Tim 32:07

fall on your head, bust out all

Johnny 32:08

your teeth and look like a dying fool.

Tim 32:10

That was very specific threat. Wow. Yeah, that. Hey, that reminds me of a guy I met the other day.

Johnny 32:18

Yeah. Did he have a knife around his neck?

Tim 32:20

Yeah, he did have a knife around his neck, but he. He also had we. This historian that we we met for a field trip, was giving us all these fun facts about phrases from history that, like, we don't know why they're, you know, like people never think about where they come from. You come across these every once in a while. But he told us about a few and one of them was, oh, well, first of all, crack a smile. Like, don't crack a smile. You know where that comes from? No, it's like back in England, like, you know, 1700s, when there was this like epidemic. I guess it was like chickenpox, like bad chickenpox or some kind of like thing that left scars, like visible scars on your face. And so people would use beeswax and melt it down and fill the holes in, on their face like before they went to church. And then they'd use makeup to cover it up to make their face look smooth so you can see all their scars. But so people couldn't smile then, because once it dried, if you smile, it would crack all these little bits of beeswax on your face. And then you'd look crazy. And then also, they said, he said also. That's where the phrase, when someone would point it out, that people would say, why don't you mine your own beeswax?

Johnny 33:33

Oh my God.

Tim 33:34

That's where that comes from. So, yes, he also had a knife around his neck. Yeah, he did have a knife around his neck. And one next to him that he had made himself and Revolutionary War knife. And he looked at one, he said, that one there's made a. Made of a deer antler. And then the kids pointed the one around his neck and they're like, what's that one made of? He's like, this one. Oh, this is made out of a snapping turtle that was killed by a Buick. And that was my.

Johnny 34:00

And the follow up question, sir, what brand of car do you drive?

Tim 34:05

Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeah, might happen. He's. But he's an amazing. He's. He's incredible dude. But he was interview. He was one of the interviewees for my kids podcast. You can listen to the one. It's called, they call it primitive. I call it living. This guy dropped out of school in like in third grade, stop going to school, ended up living like in the woods with this Cherokee man who like taught him everything he knows about like living outdoors. And now he's like known all over the area for being like a Revolutionary War historian and also making traditional items. Yeah, it's pretty incredible. And he's. And he's, he's on. They call it primitive and I call it living. And when we were there, and we were, he was showing us how to make a fire out of like flint and stuff, showing the kids how to do this. And then he, he stood up and he was wearing like 1775 garb. And he goes, just like I said on that ipod, they call it primitive, but I call it living. The kids love that. They're like, did you just say ipod? Some of the kids are like, which one's the ipod? Like, you know, so. Made me feel old. But yeah, yeah, that's all I got. This is a short and sweet episode here, guys. You know what?

Johnny 35:14

This is probably the length of a normal podcast.

Tim 35:17

Yeah, this is. This is still twice as long as a pencil podcast as I thought a pencil podcast would be when we were on episode one, you know, 115 episodes ago. So too fun to talk.

B 35:31

We'll have it any other way.

Tim 35:32

No way.

Johnny 35:33

So we'll have to have Mike on again for a full length episode. Well, the topic.

Tim 35:39

Yes.

Johnny 35:40

That we thought of ahead of time.

Tim 35:41

Yeah, that sounds good.

Johnny 35:44

Yeah. But yeah, next time we'll have lots of good stuff to talk about too. I. I assume.

B 35:48

I feel like there just hasn't been a lot of stuff going on in the stationary sphere lately anyway. Unless some pin Kickstarter that I don't care about.

Johnny 36:00

The releases got spread out this spring too, so we didn't do our spring episode. Although I don't even know if. Right. Notepads is calling this spring release. They're referring to them by number now.

Tim 36:12

That's a good call. I like that. Just getting her to like the arbitrary quarterly thing, especially when. Because they don't do. They don't do subscribers anymore, do they?

Johnny 36:21

No, they're calling the Series 4, Volume 1, but on the website they refer to it as their 15th because they also included the Thoreau book and the John Keats book, which was possibly the best one they ever made. I never got amazing. Oh my God, I wish I bought them all. I behaved myself.

Tim 36:41

Good for you.

Johnny 36:42

Yeah, good for you for once.

Tim 36:46

All right, well. Hey, Mike, where can people find you on the Internet?

B 36:50

Well, the once defunct, now back and defunct again. Leadfast.org is still going. I. I have a couple reviews in the hopper and I just haven't taken photos yet. So a couple of those things are ready to go. Then on Twitter, which I'm never on, is@ledfast.org all spelled out. And then on Instagram, which I'm on more than Twitter, is Ledfast.

Tim 37:19

How about you, Johnny.

Johnny 37:21

I am on the Internet@pencilrevolution.com I think I mentioned we have new hosts, so it runs better now, which is awesome. That also means it runs all the time, so that's good. And on Twitter and Instagram at pennsolution. And Instagram just turned a year old. Yay.

Tim 37:40

Yay. Yeah.

Johnny 37:40

How about you, Tim?

Tim 37:42

You can find me on Twitter timwassom. And I'm on Instagram timothywassom. Thank you for listening to episode 116 of erasable. You can find us at erasable us116. That's where you'll find the show notes for today's episode. Please join our Facebook group@facebook.com groups erasable and like our page at facebook.com erasablepodcast and you can find us on Twitter and Instagram at Erasable Podcast. We'll talk to you later.

B 38:13

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Tim 38:15

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