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Johnny 0:00

Mayday, mayday. It's time for another Erasable call in show.

Tim 0:04

Yay.

Johnny 0:24

This is episode 95 of the erasable podcast. May we present a special welcome to all of our livestream listeners on this fine Tuesday night, the 1st of May. For those of you listening at home, you will get a chance to a little later to call in and ask Andy, Tim and Johnny. That's me. Anything but pencils. I'm Johnny and I'm joined by Andy and Tim. This is gonna be fun and wacky and very high tech. So hello. How are you guys doing?

Andy 0:51

Hello. Good. Super high tech.

Tim 0:52

That's one take. That one take went off the rails there at the end.

Johnny 0:56

Yeah, it works. Hey, Johnny, cross your fingers for tonight.

Tim 1:00

What's he gonna say next? He's off script. He's off script.

Andy 1:03

You never know. You never know.

Johnny 1:05

Not one of those words. No. So it's. It's getting warm here on the east coast. I don't know about you, I mean, not Andy with his perfect weather all the time.

Andy 1:18

It's been a little chilly lately. It's been about 60 degrees here for like the last two months, so.

Tim 1:23

Man, winter is coming.

D 1:26

Yeah.

Andy 1:26

Oh, yeah.

Tim 1:26

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good here. It's been warm. It's like that time of year where it's 35 at night and then during the day it's like 75. So it's really weird.

Johnny 1:36

But oh man, we're getting like 80s and 90s the next couple days.

Tim 1:40

Dang.

Johnny 1:41

Good thing there's no climate change. We know what we're getting. So a little later we'll put a link in the chat if you're on our live chat and if you're not on a live chat, then you can't ask a question. Anyway, I guess it'll go through our social media channels, but you'll be able to fill out a form with your information, your question, and your phone number. And then Andy will work some computer's magic and call you and you can ask us your question live on the podcast. And then also everyone will hear it later. But edit it for if you accidentally cuss or say, um, as often as

Andy 2:18

I do, I'll just press the beep button and the boop button and then you'll be connected science.

Johnny 2:26

So we're gonna jump right into tools of the trade. You wanna go first, Andy?

Andy 2:29

Sure. What am I consuming? Katie and I watched a. Actually, it was surprisingly good. You know how often on Netflix you'll see those, like documentaries, like the world's most extreme Homes or something like that.

Tim 2:43

Yeah.

Andy 2:44

There is a British one called the World's Most Extraordinary Homes that we were expecting to be very similar. And it's not. It's amazing. You turn it on. There's two hosts, there's a woman who is an actress and a guy who is an architect. And they basically go to like, each episode is themed by coast or forest or mountain, and they go to four homes that are just really amazing within that landscape. And it's kind of, kind of an architecture lesson. Like they actually kind of treat the viewer intelligently and they talk about like, you know, the intention of this and how this blends into the landscape and this building material is made with this, which is the best way to do it. It's. I mean, there's certainly extraordinary homes, but what's really amazing is just the way that they talk about it. Like they, they talk about Capital A architecture, for example, which I think is really interesting. So if you like those kind of shows, but you really just want to like actually learn something and not just have like Americans talking at you and like a Flintstones house. Check, check this show up. And then I'm writing. I can't remember, somebody in the group posted that they bought some Mitsubishi Uni penmanship pencils on Amazon. There's a three pack for like six bucks. So I bought some. I just really love these. They have like a big thick gold band and a black band. They're in 4B. They have 4B and 6B. And they're triangular. It's the ones that have a really thick core. And I sharpened it with my classroom friendly pencil sharpener and now it looks incredible. So I'm writing with that on the only notepad that is like supple enough to handle this like this lead, which is the right notepad's notepad. We talked about that in the show.

Tim 4:43

Right. Which one is that?

Andy 4:47

It's there. Just. Just big notepad, like just glue in the top and big thick paper with like a monogram, like a letterpress in the top. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm using the pineapple one right now, which has a really beautiful detail on

D 5:03

is.

Andy 5:05

Yeah. I think I talked before about how the paper isn't my favorite in the world. It's not very toothy. It feels a little coated, but I still like it. I think it looks really good. How about you? How about you, Tim?

Tim 5:17

I discovered a pretty amazing album today. I thought I'd share. Do you guys watch Bob's Burgers?

Andy 5:24

Sometimes?

Tim 5:26

Archer. But John Benjamin, the voice Of Bob. Excuse me. I found out that he had an album. Have you heard of this?

Johnny 5:37

What? No.

Tim 5:38

It's called, well, I should have with an asterisk. And then on the bottom there's a subtitle. There's a little subtitle that says, well, I should have learned to play piano. And the artist that the album is under is John Benjamin, jazz daredevil. So he basically, John Benjamin hired three legit, like, really good jazz musicians to come to a studio to help him cut an album. But he doesn't play piano. So he's playing piano and he has a saxophone, drums and bass. And he sits down to make this album with him, but he's never played piano before. So he's just like making jazzy sounds, like trying to fake it the entire time. And it is an entire album and it is hilarious. It's a comedy album is what he's going for. But it's definitely worth looking up on Spotify because he does it with total confidence. You can kind of hear him in the background, like, shouting things out to the band. He's like, here comes here. His voice. But it's really. It's hilarious. Well, I should have learned to play piano. And there's a video I put in the show notes where it's kind of like a mini documentary leading up to it. And this was released on Sub Pop, like a real, real label. But obviously it was a joke.

Andy 7:02

But it's the new William Shatner speaking. His jazz album.

Tim 7:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he. I found out about it on. Wait, wait, don't tell me. Because he was the host or the guest this past week. But yeah, it is pretty hilarious, especially if you have any interest in jazz because he's so bad. But, like, playing with to. So the tracks are. I think there's a. I don't know how to. Or I can't play piano. Parts one through four of the tracks. And then there's one called, like, soft Jazzercise, but they're. Oh, it's funny. But in the video, it's like a little mini documentary where he's, like, leading up and it's pretty serious. He's, like, explaining what he's going to do, but he's. Instead of playing piano, he's, like playing on a table. Like he's practicing as if he's imagining it. And then by the end of the video, you realize that he's never played piano before. And the jazz musicians are, like, figuring it out as they go. So pretty, pretty hilarious. So you should definitely check out that video and then just listen to a track or so just to get a feel for it. It's really funny. And he was actually on Colbert. I don't know when it was, but at some point he was on Colbert and he was telling him about it. And at the end of his interview, he went over with Stay Human, Colbert's band, and played a song with him. And Colbert was like, well, I don't play trumpet, so could I play trumpet with you guys? He came over and played trumpet and John Benjamin played piano, and it was. That's funny. I have been reading a book called We Were Liars, which is a young adult book. I'm trying to now and then read some young adult stuff and try to find some good ones that I can recommend to students because there's a lot of bad ones out there. And it's very, very good. It's about a girl who suffers like a kind of like a freak brain injury, and she ends up dealing with opioid addiction while in the midst of, of course, like, a relationship. And then this rich. Her rich, like east coast old money family just kind of falling apart. But it's very good. It's really. It's not a. It's far less cheesy. It's. I mean, it's 100% less cheesy than some young adult books are. I think it's definitely, definitely worth a read. And lastly, podcasts for kids, which is something I've never, like, really delved into, but I was trying to find things other than the Lion King soundtrack to listen to on the way to school in the morning with Henry. And so I found out, originally found out, there's a podcast called Chompers, which was mentioned on the Take Note podcast, which is a three and a half minute podcast where they, like, give them facts about animals and, like, tell them jokes and, like, guide them through brushing their teeth. And it works like a charm for Henry. And he loved it.

Andy 9:46

That's amazing.

Tim 9:47

Yeah, it's really funny. And I even enjoy standing next to him while he's doing it so that I can hear it and make sure that he doesn't spit toothpaste all over the bathroom. And then there's a connected one called Story Pirates, where kids actually write. Like, kids from age 4 to 10 or something will write stories and send them in. And then this group of actors who play these characters who are on a boat, they'll perform the stories that they send in, like, turn them into songs, or they'll turn them into, like, little dramatic readings. And it's super entertaining. And then the last one is called Pants on Fire, which is every episode they get a kid. It's just kind of fascinating, even as an adult, like to listen to it with them. So we have fun with it because we're both interested. But they bring in a kid to be the contestant and there's a subject matter. So it'll be like the bears or chess or something, you know, some kind of subject. And they have an expert, and then they have somebody who's pretending to be an expert, and the kid has to ask them questions until they figure out which one's the actual expert. So it's like a podcast about telling truth from fiction and knowing who actually knows what they're talking about, which is a really valuable kind of, you know, and which was created for obvious reasons, just within the past year, I think. So, yeah. You have kids, you want some podcasts listen to in the car? Those are some good ones. Well, I guess the toothbrush one, I wouldn't do that in the car because that would get messy. But the other two are good. And I am writing with a spangle, a California Republic spangle.

Andy 11:21

Last from the past. Yeah.

Tim 11:23

A little bit more later writing with that. And I'm writing a Chicago Field Notes. How about you, Johnny?

Johnny 11:30

So the. Have you guys read or seen the film or movie Snow Falling on Cedars?

Tim 11:36

No, no, I looked it up when you put it in the doc earlier, and I can't wait to hear you talk about it.

Johnny 11:41

So it's set in the Pacific Northwest and they talk about Cedars. So being a pencil fan, that's why I read it. But that's not the cedar in the book, so that was disappointing. But the book's very good. The movie was less good, if I remember right. I haven't seen it a while, but it has Ethan Hawke, and everything is better for having Ethan Hawke, I think. And I didn't see the movie, but I've read everything but the epilogue of Stardust by Neil Gaiman recently, which is super, super good.

Tim 12:13

It's a good one.

Andy 12:14

Yeah.

Johnny 12:14

Like, I feel like you can't really talk about it without giving it something awake. It's so short.

Tim 12:19

Yeah, that's the one that he. What got him back into writing by hand, like, drafting by hand, because he wanted to write it in a way that it, like, that would resemble how it would have been written at the time where it's happening. And so he got this, like, big old notebook and fountain pen and wrote it by hand.

Johnny 12:35

Yeah. And he mentions Borrowing his friend Tory's house, which I'm pretty sure is Tori Amos.

Andy 12:39

Oh, it was totally Tori Amos.

Johnny 12:40

Pretty awesome.

Andy 12:41

Yeah.

Johnny 12:41

Yeah, I just mentioned my friend Tory Amos. House hung out, you know, no biggie. Yeah, I've been too sleepy lately to watch tv.

Andy 12:53

Need more coffee?

Johnny 12:54

Yeah, no, I keep. I've fallen asleep with coffee in my hand, but not spilling it, which is really something. You've got to have, like, a mess of kids to be able to do.

Tim 13:02

What a pro. Yeah.

Johnny 13:04

I'm a professional. And then I wake up, down the rest of the coffee, brush my teeth, and go to bed. Super pro.

Andy 13:11

Is that what the collective noun of kids is? It's a mess.

Johnny 13:21

So I'm finishing up in. Right. Notepads. Sakura notebook, which I feel like these things aren't getting a lot of attention for some reason when, you know, there was a big call, especially in the field nuts group. Like, oh, I love writing notepads. I love their designs. I love their paper, but I hate the binding. I wish it was stapled. Like, these damn things are stapled. And they're awesome, and the paper's amazing, and they're not expensive. So if you don't have any cooking sum, because they're awesome. And I'm using the controversial wood plus graphite pencil from Rainbow Pads. I guess. Not that controversial. Nobody seems to get upset, but a few eyebrows were raised.

Andy 14:02

I'm sure he and TJ had a chat.

Johnny 14:05

Yeah. So I'm gonna say wood plus graphite.

Andy 14:07

Yeah.

Johnny 14:08

Yeah.

Tim 14:09

But they're cool.

Johnny 14:09

They're, you know, they're Musgrave pencils, but they're good Musgrave pencils.

Tim 14:14

What makes it a good Musgrave pencil?

Johnny 14:17

You can sharpen it. The paints. The paint's on straight. The ferrule's on straight. Erasers work like, everything you want a pencil to do, but it's made by Musgrave is a good Musgrave. Okay, that's not. That might not be fair to Musgrave, or I might be being very charitable to Musgrave.

Andy 14:35

I think it's more of that.

Tim 14:37

Yeah, I think so. Sorry.

Johnny 14:39

We want you guys to come on the show one day. That would be pretty cool. But I don't think they would know what a podcast is, judging from their website.

Tim 14:48

Yeah.

Johnny 14:49

So shall we jump onto fresh points?

Andy 14:51

Yeah.

Johnny 14:52

Andy's is especially fresh.

Andy 14:53

It looks like it sure is. I actually only just have one. It's been a slow couple of weeks over here, I guess, but. But it's an interesting one, I think. I heard from an Artist named Rory Sparks, she and her artistic partner, Katherine Haley have created an homage in scent. I'm reading this here. The scent was created with a nose on a box of Blackwing pencils. And the idea of freedom focused on unlimited possibilities in the head throughout history and to this day, millions of incredible design projects. Start with the pencil. It's this guiding principle. With. It's with this guiding principle that we present the number two, the first fine fragrance, handcrafted and meticulously packaged in honor of the pencil, which is super cool. So she sent me this little sample, scent sample. And it's a little, little spritzer, like a perfume spritzer with a little band on it and a tiny, tiny little pencil. It says number two. So it is a perfume that is supposed to smell like pencils.

Tim 15:57

That is awesome.

Andy 15:58

So. So here's the thing is I have always sort of like, traditionally just not had a very refined nose. Like, like, my. My preference usually is like, no, no scent over a. Any sort of scent. So I spritzed this and I just can't smell it. I've had people I work with and I've had other people smell like, yeah, it does. It smells woody. I see it and I'm just like, it just doesn't smell like pencil to me.

Tim 16:26

Maybe you just have it, like, burned. It's like when you have a scent that you smell all the time, like, you could become nose blind to it. You just spend too much time around pencils and so you just can't even recognize it.

Andy 16:35

Yeah, that could very well be.

Tim 16:38

I just.

Andy 16:38

I just don't know what it is. And I guess, like, you know, Katie, for example, doesn't like red wine because she says that all just taste the same. Like, whenever somebody has, like is doing a wine tasting and, you know, they say, like, oh, this one is a lot more delicate of a, like, as a floral bouquet. This one is big and rich and fruity. Like, she's like, they all just taste the same.

Tim 17:00

Taste their wine.

Andy 17:01

So Chris Jones in the chat goes, who in the decision tree thought naming a perfume number two was a good idea? You have a. You have a point there, sir.

Tim 17:12

It's a poofume.

Andy 17:13

Yeah, yeah.

D 17:15

So

Johnny 17:18

poo perfume.

Andy 17:20

So I will post a link in the chat to purchase some of this number two pencil scent on your own. It's actually interesting. About four years ago, Ish, I blogged about a similar venture. Somebody was experimenting with making a kind of like, wood shavings scent.

Johnny 17:38

Yeah, I remember that.

Andy 17:39

But it smelled like red cedar and that one, I don't know that this one to me smells better than that one. It's still not like pencils, but it's also packaged really beautifully. Like it. Just the way they presented it. And the, the note card that they wrote, Rory wrote a note on looks like a library card, which is really cool. Yeah, it's. It's very cool. So I'll have a link to that in show notes. That is it for my fresh points. How about you, Tim?

Tim 18:10

I got a. I got several, but they're all pretty brief. First one is just kind of a cool moment. I had a student who had been listening to the podcast or who was familiar with the podcast and was in. I forget where they had traveled. They traveled somewhere and. And went to a flea market and found something like, hey, I found something that I think you might like. So I got it for you. Here you go. And they handed me an old bullet pencil, like a vintage bullet pencil. I was like, wow, that's really awesome. And they're like, well, yeah, I mean, she could tell I didn't really understand. Or she's like, yeah, I guess. Cool, I'm glad you like it. But she's like, here's my favorite part. She turned it over and it was an advertising bullet pencil for a funeral home. And I just thought this was pretty great. That the slogan or whatever, it just had like the name of the funeral home and then it said the only. The only funeral home with air conditioning in Indianapolis. That was their selling point. So. Oh, my God. That tells you. That tells you how old it was, which is pretty cool too.

Johnny 19:12

I hope that tells you how old it is.

Tim 19:14

Yeah, it's a. Yeah, it's a. It's a pretty unusual shape too. It's like a little shorter and it's. It's like made of aluminum. Like the whole top of it's made of aluminum, but it's round. It almost. Honestly, it almost looks like the Midori, the white Midori one, which is kind of weird. So. And it's a different thickness too. So I'm. I'm really curious about digging into it and playing around with it. I actually left it at school. I would have added here to be able to. Yeah. Tell you more details. But yeah, it was really cool that you get that as a gift from a student. Yeah. I also have talked about the Postal by Venus. That was the. The red and blue pencil that I had talked about before on here. The double sided thing. And I think I sent you guys some, but I had a. I had a Weird problem with one. Yesterday I was sitting down to grade some papers, and I got one of those out, a fresh one. I sharpened the red side. Sharpened perfectly right away. I sharpened the blue side, and it was a little funny. And I kept going a little bit further, and the lead broke off. And then I realized that beneath, like, maybe a half an inch of the blue core was nothing. It was empty. And I've never had that happen. Have you had that happen where you've had a pencil that was just empty? Like, had no center at all?

Andy 20:30

I don't think it was. So there was an empty space, but it wasn't just filled in with solid wood.

Tim 20:34

It was just a big hole. Once you got past that part that broke off, it was just an empty hole. And I could stretch out a paperclip and just stick it right in. It just went all the way down until you got to the red portion on the other side. It's one of those weird problems I get. I can imagine that kind of thing happening. You know, it was just a sort of freak accident on an assembly line or whatever.

Johnny 20:58

Sounds like a Mark Danielewski book.

Tim 21:01

Figured I would have. Figured I would have come across something like that by now. Yeah. Not super interesting, but it still just kind of freaked me out. I was like. I kept sharpening, kept sharpening, kept sharpening, kept sharpening. And I was like, over the trash can, I realized there was no blue coming off of it. And then I looked inside and realized that it was just. It was an empty. A sad, empty hole surrounded by fine cedar. Yeah. I also mentioned earlier about spangles, and I was digging around in my office downstairs, and one of my several boxes is just kind of full of a jumble of pencils. And found one and sharpened it up. And I forgot how good these are. You all used one?

Andy 21:48

Oh, yeah.

Tim 21:49

Lately. Yeah, they're very, very, very good pencils. And it is kind of interesting. Are they. Are they the only one that's the only one from Calcito that still says California Republic on it?

Andy 22:01

Well, I don't think they manufactured them anymore.

Tim 22:04

They're still just working through the.

Andy 22:05

Yeah, I. I'm backstop. Pretty sure they just didn't sell that many back in the day, so I'm guessing they just still. Is this still up on the website for sale?

Tim 22:15

You can get them on by the. I bought a dozen, so I have one, and then I bought a dozen, and they came in yesterday.

Andy 22:20

Oh, interesting.

Tim 22:21

And they've got a nice, like, wrap on them, and then they. You can even buy them by the gross and I really wish you hadn't told me that they are not making

Andy 22:28

them anymore because now you just want to hoard them.

Tim 22:31

Yeah, now I'm going to buy. I'm spend $35 on a gross of them.

Johnny 22:36

Oh, those are cool looking.

Tim 22:37

Yeah, they look like a. Just a mini jumbo. The same kind of blue as the Golden Bear but it's a round mini jumbo and it's comparable to the Ladee but it's just a hair skinnier and it's just the perfect size where you can sharpen it the bullet sharpener and get a nice point on it. But I've really been liking it. It's definitely a hb but cedar and they're just really nice. I'm going to probably, I probably won't go off and buy a whole nother gross of them but I could see myself getting another dozen just to have in case of apocalypse or whatever. So. Yeah, and then the last one was just very brief. But I just want to say thanks to the awesome folks at Baron Fig who I've been wanting to try. They sent me a the Baron Fig XL in blank. So I got a charcoal Baron Fig XL with blank sheets and it is maybe my favorite notebook I've ever used. I absolutely love this thing because I liked the big one but their ruled paper is just a little too small for me and so I was wanting to try this and I got it and I've been using it for some writing projects and I really, really, really enjoyed using that notebook. So if you, if you like, if you do longhand and write stories or essays or whatever and you just like to have a little bit of a bigger space I don't think as far as I know. And I've tried a bunch of them from Leuchtturm and Moleskine, Blackwing, all these like the Baron Fig XL is such an awesome size. It lays flat tons of pages. The paper is really good. I couldn't be happier with it at this point. So that's like my new favorite things. I mean I think I just wanted to thank them for. For sending me that and then I will certainly be buying those in the future and probably taking advantage of their cool buy more than one discount that they've got at some point. It's like buy. If you buy two, you get 15% off or something like that. So nice. Good deal. So I love it. How about you Johnny?

Johnny 24:52

Well, I only have two, although the first one I don't really know what my point is. But if you're a field notes subscriber or you follow them, you might have remembered that last week they found what is. They found a couple cases of Arts and Sciences and decided to sell them at cost at 12 bucks. But you had to be a subscriber and get the email. And then a lot of subscribers didn't get the email until after they were already gone. It was this whole big giant thing. But it was. I thought it was still a nice gesture because they could have just. So they. At hq, they sell older editions and they sell them for the market price. So they could have just, you know, kept replacing their Arts and Sciences and making some money wouldn't have been as much work as what they probably just did. So that was a nice gesture.

Andy 25:38

Yeah.

Johnny 25:38

I got an extra pack because they're pretty and I want to one. Yeah. So my only other fresh point is that Charlotte is having a birthday party this weekend. And I don't know if folks listening have ever gone to like Party City to get goody bag stuff for kids, but you're basically giving kids bags of candy and trash that cost you like, you know, 10 bucks a piece or something. So instead, what could go wrong? Yeah, like, hey, here's some sugar and like, you know, a paintball gun is gonna shoot you in the face and, you know, ruin your parents car. But we got some stuff from the pencil store as goodie bags instead. Like Charlotte picked out half a dozen and a cool eraser and we asked them really nicely to put them in, you know, individual envelopes so the chiddlers will have something easy to open that they'll actually use. And their parents might hopefully be less pissed off that they don't come home with sugar and trash to leave all over their car. Yeah, I don't know what my point is. That sounds really self righteous. Like, don't give them junk, give them pencils.

Andy 26:39

But yeah, you're that house that's just gonna get egged on Halloween.

Johnny 26:44

Freaking pencils.

Tim 26:45

Get the pencil guy pencils again.

Johnny 26:48

He wears socks and sandals.

Tim 26:53

We're actually. Henry's birthday party is on Saturday.

Johnny 26:56

Oh, awesome.

Tim 26:56

Yeah. Cool.

Johnny 26:58

Are you doing goody bags, Tim?

Tim 27:00

We thought about it, but then stopped thinking about it.

Johnny 27:03

So you're like, hey, I'm going to a party for some other kid and I'm gonna go home with a treat. Yeah, no wonder kids are so nice. So should we jump into our ama?

Tim 27:18

Yeah.

Johnny 27:18

Which I just learned today means ask me anything.

Tim 27:21

Give it a go.

Harry 27:34

Can you hear me? I can.

Andy 27:36

Hey, Harry.

Tim 27:37

Hello.

Harry 27:37

How are You.

Andy 27:38

It is the Internet's Harry C. Marks.

Johnny 27:40

It is.

Tim 27:44

Welcome home. Yeah.

Andy 27:46

So I wonder just to make it sound like this is some sort of an actual like real call in thing, maybe I should be like, be like, hey, Harry, you're on the air.

Tim 27:58

Hi.

Harry 27:59

First time, Long time. First time. No, this actually isn't my first time calling.

Andy 28:02

No, not at all. This is like your fourth time at least.

Harry 28:04

No, I didn't call in the last one. I've only called in once before. But I have been on the show before.

Andy 28:09

That's true.

Chris Jones 28:10

Yeah.

Andy 28:11

And Harry is in fact working on an erasable sanctioned project with me coming up, which is pretty awesome.

Harry 28:20

Yep.

Chris Jones 28:20

Absolutely.

Harry 28:21

Am I allowed to talk about it?

Andy 28:22

Please do.

Harry 28:24

So I am co editing, editing this latest issue of Plumbago, issue number four. It is a nonfiction focused issue and we've gotten some really great submissions so far. So I am here to make like Bing Crosby at the end of White Christmas. I'm here to make the call for anyone, anyone here who, who I've either talked to or who has been thinking about it, please do let us know. Get in touch. Send in your submissions. If we've already talked to you, if we haven't talked to you yet, you know, feel free to pitch us something you've been thinking about. I know we, we been getting a, you know, quite a few. Here's how I use analog tools or here's what analog tools mean to me. And I would say in any other instance, those are fine. But I'd really like to dig deeper and get some really personal, you know, not super personal, but as personal as you're willing to go. But, you know, more stories about family or how Analog impacted you or, you know, memories of your parents growing up, that kind of thing. So, you know, is there a typewriter that's been passed down through the generations and now you have it, or do you have old photographs or anything like that? If it ties into Analog, we're here to look for it. My son just walked into the room.

Tim 29:44

Hey, dude.

Andy 29:46

Does he have anything he wants to say?

Harry 29:48

He wants to go to bed. That's right, he wants to go to bed.

Tim 29:52

Good for him.

Andy 29:53

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what he wants.

Harry 29:57

Then the other reason I am calling in. So I have a KUM masterpiece sharpener which I have been loving, but as of recently, I ended up switching the blades because every time I would sharpen was breaking the points and it wasn't really sharpening the way I had wanted. And when I replaced the blades I would sharpen a pencil and the step one hole would only. It would leave this, like, thin layer of wood on the tip of the pencil on the graphite of the pencil. So it would be totally clean except for this one side. And then you would put it in the step two hole and it would clear it away. But it's been driving me crazy because it doesn't sharpen evenly. So I'm wondering, is there some way to either sharpen the blade or is it easy to get replacement blades for it? Maybe just. These are the spare blades that were tucked into the bottom of the blue part on the sharpener. I thought they were totally fresh, but, yeah, I don't know. Something. It seems like they were not great blades to begin with.

Tim 30:57

Yeah, you can get them on, I think. I think they have met CW pencils. But I think before that you should try. I've had to do this before where I put the blades on, had some kind of, like, weird weirdness, and then just took them off and switched them to the other side. That it might work better on the stage two than on the stage one because of what it has to do, you know, like the job it has to get done. So have you tried that?

Harry 31:19

I haven't tried that yet. I had seen something about someone had suggested, like, getting a screwdriver and sort of, like, scraping it along. I also got this. I bought this knife sharpener that you. You drag across the blade of the knife. I've been using it on my open now and on some of my kitchen knives and stuff, and that seems to do the trick for, like, a longer blade. But I wasn't sure if it would work on something so tiny as a

Tim 31:44

masterpiece blade that was actually spring. This reminds me of my. One of my first leaps into the pencil world. Like, the nerdy pencil Internet world is where I reached out to David Rees on Twitter and asked him how to sharpen the blades for sharpeners. I sent him that question was like, yeah, he won't respond because I just found the book. And then he responded, like, pretty soon after, said, don't just throw it away and get a new one.

Harry 32:11

Yeah, I mean, it's.

Johnny 32:12

It's.

Harry 32:13

It's kind of interesting. Like, the Pollux everyone seems to really like or hate is like 28 bucks. I wouldn't throw that one away. But, you know, something like this.

Tim 32:21

Throw away the blade. Yeah.

Harry 32:22

Yeah. Oh, I see. But, like, even. Even the. The masterpiece, I mean, it's 15 bucks and I'm in a. I'm in a sort of Lucky position where, you know, that's not a whole lot of money for me. So I could feasibly just replace it and not have to worry about it. But I'd rather just replace the blades because I love my sharpener. I wouldn't want to replace it.

Andy 32:41

I also wonder, Harry.

Tim 32:42

I did.

Andy 32:43

This is something I've kind of noticed when I sharpen things. And first of all, you're not left handed, are you?

Harry 32:48

No, I am not.

Andy 32:49

Okay. So when I, when I use that, that stage one hole, I will sometimes get that little thin strip of wood still on the blade when like at the part where I kind of readjust my grip to, to crank it. And it's just.

Harry 33:04

We're still talking about pencils, right?

Andy 33:06

Yes, we are still talking about pencils. Good.

Tim 33:09

Okay.

Andy 33:12

And, and I noticed it because I'm just like, just slightly pushing the, like the pencil out from, from right under the blade. So I wonder, I wonder if like readjusting your grip or more smoothly transitioning your hand when you do that. I don't know how to say this without sounding dirty.

Harry 33:29

Okay, well, you know, there's, there's another issue and I. It's the. In the step two, when you get to the very end, I've noticed that like the. Because it gets so sharp. Yeah. It's very brittle at the tip. So it snaps right off and you end up having to do the whole thing all over again. I don't know if there's any way to fix that or maybe that's just I'm sharpening it too hard. My, my. I'm pushing too hard into the sharpener and it's just, you know, the blade is, is right up against it and it snaps it right off. But yeah, that could just be how I'm handling the sharpener in the pencil.

Tim 33:59

You got a screwdriver trick. Still is worth trying because I do that on the just the single hole long point sharpener. That's what I've had to do it on a couple times on two different ones.

Harry 34:08

So is it just dragging the edge of a flathead down?

Tim 34:12

Push it along the surface. That's underneath where the blade will go. And just try to shave off just a thin layer of magnesium or whatever and just, just evenly as even. Just until you'll be able to see it pretty obviously because it'll, it'll get the little shaving change color like where you can see that it's like evenly been shaved away. And then try it after that.

Harry 34:35

Okay, cool.

Tim 34:36

Yeah.

Harry 34:37

Excellent. Thanks guys. Oh, by the way, Real quick, before I go, if anyone read my Galen Leather writing box review. I got my replace box today, and I went to open it up, and the thing is supposed to sit back on its hinges so you can display your pens and pencils and, you know, keep it open. Well, I went to go put it back and the lid fell right off. The screws that were screwing in the. They were holding the hinges in place. I pulled them out, and they're about 2 or 3 millimeters shorter than the holes in the first. The screws in the first box. I ended up doing a transplant. So I pulled the screws out of the first box and put them in this one. And it seems to be holding okay, but it's still. I can't win. Like, the first one warped. This one has bogus hardware. It was frustrating. This one seems to be doing okay right now, and it's perfectly flat.

Tim 35:29

And they.

Harry 35:30

I don't know if they got very defensive after my review or what, but they posted on Instagram that they've started doing humidity and stress tests on their boxes, and they used my picture from my backyard from the review in their post. So they said, if you have any issues, let us know. We'll get you a new box right away. But we're doing humidity and stress tests to make sure that these boxes don't either ship out warped or warp so quickly when you first get them.

Andy 35:59

Well, I can't speak for Johnny, but I know that I haven't read that review because it was on that other website.

Harry 36:05

Yes, I know. I'm a bit of a stationary blog whore.

Johnny 36:11

I was afraid it was gonna be so glowing I'd run right out and get one. So I didn't read it yet

Harry 36:16

for the most part. I really do love the box. It is well constructed, despite the warping and everything, which, unfortunately, the way it's constructed, it's just prone to that. But the box itself is actually solid. Like it, you know, you. Once I put the new screws into the hinges, it's a solid wooden walnut box. And the leather inside is really nice and the finish is beautiful. And it's like I say in the review, it is like the most Instagrammable object you would own. I mean, a stunning piece, but it's just, unfortunately, the company, they're using Walden Woodworks. I don't know if it's. If it's the way they're building them or they're not letting the wood set properly or what, but it's just the warping has been such a bad Issue. And then this, this hinge thing I was kind of surprised about. But it looks like they might have used the wrong screws when they were putting on the hardware.

Tim 37:13

How, how, like with. If you've got pens or pencils loaded into the top and stuff like that, how thick or how much room do you have for notebooks on the bottom? Like, can a confidant fit in there?

Harry 37:27

Yeah, a confidant can definitely fit in there. It's about. I don't have it on me. It's downstairs, but it's about, I'd say two inches deep, maybe an inch and a half deep. So you. I've got. And they're stacked on top of each other. I've got a field notes dime novel and I've got the field notes byline right on top of one another. And even on the lid, the pens aren't right up against the edges. It's sort of tucked in a little bit. So you've got about, I don't know, a couple centimeters of space between your utensils and whatever's on the bottom. So you can, you can stack your notebooks a little bit, your pocket notebooks and everything. I've got washi tape in there. I've got a mini watercolor kit in there as well.

Andy 38:08

Sure.

Tim 38:09

Cool.

Andy 38:09

Got your EDC all tucked away?

Harry 38:11

Got my edc.

Andy 38:13

How many handguns do you have in there?

Tim 38:16

Tactical flashlight?

Harry 38:17

Yeah, I do. I have about eight tactical flashlights. I have some black stealth knives that don't show up on radar.

Andy 38:25

Perfect.

Tim 38:25

A lock picking kit.

Andy 38:27

Yep.

Harry 38:28

You joke. Actually, I've been looking at the laws regarding having lock picks. It's a skill I would like to try and learn how to do.

Tim 38:36

Absolutely.

Andy 38:36

Watch out. Chris Jones.

Tim 38:38

That came up in a conversation with students recently because in Tennessee they're writing about gun laws. It's like they're doing their argumentative essays about gun laws in Tennessee. And in Tennessee it is illegal to own a lock picking kit because of, quote, malicious intent. Right. But you can own an AR15.

Andy 38:55

Right.

Harry 38:56

It's so bizarre. And in New Jersey, I believe I can own a lock picking kit, but I can't carry it outside of the house, which is weird where you would need it, right? Yeah, exactly. But there's a great book and I talked to the author on my show, Jeff Mayno. He wrote a book, the Burglar's Guide to the City. I think that's what it's called. It was a couple years ago. And he talks to a guy and he teaches people how to pick Locks. He teaches a class. Here's how you pick a padlock. Here's how you pick a door lock and certain kinds of safes and everything. I mean, they show you these cutaway locks that you can see the mechanisms working inside as you hammer them and pick at them. It's very cool.

Andy 39:40

Hmm. That is really cool. All right, well, thank you, Harry. If anybody wanted to find you on the Internet, where could they do that?

Harry 39:50

You can find me screaming Jeff Bezos on Twitter cmarx.

Andy 39:56

Excellent.

Harry 39:57

You can listen to my show covered on iTunes or@hologramradio.org covered for anyone who's looking on itunes, sight unseen. The COVID art is an orange. It looks like a penguin classic, so should be pretty easy to pick out.

Andy 40:13

That was a TJ Cosgrove.

Harry 40:15

It is a TJ Cosgrove original.

Tim 40:17

Yeah.

Andy 40:18

I think our podcast share that in common.

Harry 40:20

That's right. Yeah. And now he's got his own.

Tim 40:22

Yeah, absolutely.

Chris Jones 40:24

Cool.

Harry 40:25

Which I believe I'll be going on at some point in the near future.

Andy 40:28

You have to, like, find some really, really, like, American idioms to say, because Stuart has the most British things that he says.

Harry 40:37

I know. Stuart is like just. His voice is so dreamy.

Andy 40:41

So good.

Harry 40:42

Melt.

Andy 40:42

I love it. In the last episode, he said something. I can't remember what it was about. He was talking about something. He goes, it's going a bit marmite. And I'm just like, yes. What is that? I looked it up and it's polarizing

Harry 40:53

because, yeah, I love Joby job.

Andy 40:56

Yeah.

Harry 40:56

I always talk about my jobby. Joby job.

Johnny 40:59

Yeah. Cool.

Harry 41:00

All right, well, thanks, Gems.

Andy 41:01

All right, see ya.

Tim 41:02

It's good talking to you, Harry.

Harry 41:03

You as well. Talk to you soon.

Tim 41:05

See you.

Harry 41:06

Bye.

Andy 41:07

He said, don't call us, child.

Tim 41:09

We'll call you.

Andy 41:20

Hello, Vikram.

D 41:22

Hey.

Andy 41:23

Hey. You are on the air with the Erasable podcast.

D 41:26

How are you, sweet? I'm pretty good.

Tim 41:29

Yeah.

D 41:29

I've never been on the air before.

Andy 41:31

You are. Well, you're on the Internet instead as well. What I probably should say for all 10 of our livestream listeners, including yourself, probably. But eventually you'll be on the air to a much wider audience. How's it going?

D 41:50

It's going well.

Andy 41:51

Yeah.

D 41:52

So I just wanted to talk a little bit about the recent resurrection of a couple of blogs, not so recent of penciltalk.org, and quite recent of Dave's Mechanical Pencils. I was pretty thrilled about that. And I know anybody. Sorry.

Andy 42:14

Dave's Mechanical Pencils is back.

D 42:17

Yeah, they are.

Andy 42:18

Oh, no, this is new News to me. That's awesome.

Johnny 42:21

I already asked him if he'd be on the podcast, and he already declined.

Tim 42:24

What? Declined? Oh, man.

Johnny 42:27

No, I mean, I wouldn't do it if someone asked me either.

Tim 42:32

Well, then I asked you.

Andy 42:35

Sorry, that was different.

Johnny 42:36

That was to make one

Tim 42:41

cool. Yeah, I actually was just looking up because I had heard about pencil talk being back, but haven't really even gotten back into it and started digging around on it because. How long ago was that when it was started back up?

D 42:55

Oh, I don't know. It's got to be months now.

Tim 42:57

Yes. Yeah.

Andy 43:01

Is there. Is there another. Vikram, is there any other stationary podcasts that. That you know of that have started back up from where it was before? Like, maybe one that's on Weebly somewhere?

D 43:15

Oh, man, that one. I made that one over, like, one summer because I had. I just had surgery, so I had nothing to do, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna make my own stationary website. But I do have another blog. It's coolstuff4819blogspot.com and over there, it's mainly a typosphere blog. So I don't think I've written a few stationary reviews, but not too many. It's more typewriter focused. But that one, I did start up inspired by the resurgence of Dave's mechanical pencils. And I know that especially with, you know, Instagram coming up and Facebook really coming up in the last, you know, three, four years or so, and of course, us all moving forward, you get less and less time or motivation to write, you know, the lengthier posts on real blogs. I was wondering if you guys have experienced that at all.

Andy 44:13

Oh, 100%. I'm sitting on that right now. I have, like, a list of things that I want to write about for Wood Clinch, but it's just as easy just to save it for discussion on this show or, yeah, to post an Instagram picture of it. So I know Johnny. You sort of. I feel like you've. I don't want to. I don't know how to make this sound. Not. Not mean. Johnny's found a really good. Johnny's found a really good middle spot by, like, posting a lot more short posts.

Johnny 44:44

Yeah. Because otherwise I forget that it exists. Right. I one time forgot about it for four years.

Andy 44:53

Tim, of course, he has not compromised. He's just like, nope, not going to post to it, remove it, kill it. I've been seeing more and more things about the resurgence of RSS readers, and it's something I've been Thinking about. And I've been adding more and more blogs back to my Feed bin, which is sort of the Google Reader replacement that I've been using. So I'm hoping that, like, you know, if people become more and more concerned with their privacy and with big centralized organizations being part of this, that, you know, they'll go back to more distributed, you know, blog type stuff. And I would love to see that.

Tim 45:34

Gather your own, right?

Johnny 45:36

Yeah.

Andy 45:37

Yeah. What has your experience been with Vikram? With. So the blog that I mentioned earlier was the Scribo Mechanica blog that he started like two, three summers ago.

D 45:51

That was like summer 2014.

Andy 45:53

Okay, wow. So four ago, it's been a while, which was really just fantastic. What are some of your other blog projects that you've started up and maybe killed off?

D 46:08

Well, I started the blog thing like when I was in 8th grade or so and I had a couple. They never really took off because it was like back then I didn't really know about Blogspot at the time until a little bit later.

Andy 46:23

Yeah.

D 46:24

But yeah, cool stuff. 4819 is the one that on and off has been since 2011. And I find that it kind of ebbs and flows. You know, typically when I get a new typewriter, I write about it and then it sits for a couple months while I do other things or get inspired again. But finding that rhythm of just regular posting, the toughest part for me has been trying to one topic. It never works because you're like, oh, I'm not writing about this specific topic for this particular audience, so I better not write anything until I have something specific for this audience. And I found myself limited by that. So it kind of went back to the cool stuff idea of the blog where it's not just a typosphere blog, it's everything that I find fun.

Andy 47:16

What does the 4819 stand for?

D 47:19

Oh, that's just a special number for me. It was the address of the saxophone shop back home where I used to get my clarinet reads from. That was my wife back in high school. So like, oh, that was cool. And then I looked at my glasses and it was like the little, you know, the frame size also was 48:19. And I was like, there's some significance to this number.

Andy 47:41

So I just chose just following you around. That's awesome.

Tim 47:44

I'm looking at your. I'm looking at it right now. And I. I mean, as being a typewriter nerd as well I am. Love it. I love how you are posting the actual images of the. Of the typed.

Andy 47:55

He's typecasting your text.

Tim 47:56

Yeah, yeah, it's typecasting. Perfect. And so we. We. I have to ask you some. It's not like a super, you know, out there question, but do you have a favorite? Like, what do you use on a daily basis? What typewriter do you use more often than any others?

D 48:12

Well, given that I have a relatively smaller apartment, the. The couple that I kept in the city, most. Most of them are back home. But when I moved out, I. I took. I took a couple. I took a Remington number one portable from 1923. I took a couple Olympias. But I eventually brought those all back because here in Kansas City, I bought a facet PP1 from 1961, which is the best made typewriter I've ever used. And recently I picked up.

Tim 48:45

That's the one I'm looking at right now on your blog.

D 48:48

Yeah, yeah, that one is. It's a beautiful machine. I would highly, highly recommend, like, if you can find one that's totally, you know, new Ish and. And is well adjusted and has been kept in a case indoors and all that. Because I have the feeling like, it's like a Mercedes. Really nice when it works, but if it breaks, screwed. Yeah. And on the other hand, I got the Underwood Touchmaster 5 from 1967. It's a big honkin standard typewriter.

Tim 49:21

Very cool. Looks like I'll be setting up a ebay alert for the facet because that thing is pretty cool looking.

D 49:30

It's like £30, too, the Underwood. Anyway, it's portable.

Andy 49:37

So, Vikram, without. Without compromising your opsec, where do you. Where do you live? You're in Kansas City.

D 49:43

Yeah, I thought you were.

Johnny 49:45

I think.

Andy 49:45

I thought you were in Canada.

D 49:48

Oh, no.

Andy 49:49

I don't know why I thought that.

Tim 49:50

No, no.

D 49:52

I have no idea where you found that.

Andy 49:54

How dare you, sir?

Tim 49:58

Yeah.

D 49:59

Cool. Well, thanks for having me on the show, guys.

Andy 50:01

Absolutely. Yeah. Thanks for joining us.

Tim 50:03

Thanks for calling. It's good talking to you.

Johnny 50:04

Yeah.

Chris Jones 50:05

Sweet.

Andy 50:06

Awesome. See you, Vikram.

Tim 50:08

See you.

D 50:08

See you.

Andy 50:27

All right, who should we call next? Do you want to call Kemet?

D 50:33

Sure. Yeah.

Andy 50:36

That was like a Hannibal Lectern noise you just made right there.

Johnny 50:39

What was that?

Andy 50:41

Somebody goes.

Tim 50:42

No, that was me.

Johnny 50:43

You're scaring me.

Tim 50:45

You realize I did that, all right,

Andy 50:52

I ate his liver with father beans. And that is Chianti. All right, let's not freak Kimet out when we call her. Hold on just a second here. Hello? Is this commit.

D 51:09

No, it is not.

Andy 51:11

All right, I think we may have the wrong Number.

Tim 51:14

Well, how do you feel about pencils?

Andy 51:15

Yeah, okay.

Tim 51:21

Okay.

Andy 51:21

All right, all right, all right, bye.

Tim 51:24

See,

Andy 51:27

this is totally staying in. Wow.

Tim 51:33

Yeah, like he stayed on the line. He didn't even like hang up. He was like, what? Oh, gosh.

Andy 51:40

Okay, so commit. I think we got your number wrong. Want to add it in?

Johnny 51:56

I might call that guy back, see

Andy 51:59

what he's up to. Okay, let's make this other call. Well, we wait for her to add that back in. It's probably like.

Tim 52:09

Well, honey, okay, just let me call.

Johnny 52:13

Drink and sit down.

Tim 52:15

Just got called by three guys that was really about pencils.

Johnny 52:18

Yeah, he's like, I think they said pencils.

Andy 52:23

Okay, making a call. I'm just not going to say who it is. Yes, hello, you're on the air with the Erasable podcast. Who is this?

Chris Jones 52:34

Hello? New phone. Who this new phone?

Andy 52:37

Yeah, it's our friend Chris Jones. You may remember him from such episodes as episode 93 or was that 92?

Chris Jones 52:44

That was so long ago.

Andy 52:46

Yeah, a while ago it was. Yeah, his little blog called Graphite Confidential.

Chris Jones 52:53

That's right, we do. And a new post coming tomorrow.

Tim 52:57

Nice. Yeah.

Chris Jones 52:58

Yes.

Tim 52:59

Or two.

Andy 52:59

You're on fire. You just had one earlier this week, didn't you? Or maybe late last week.

Chris Jones 53:04

Yeah, we do.

Tim 53:05

We're.

Chris Jones 53:06

We're still shooting for one a week with the. You know, because when you have like several thousand vintage advertising pencils, you gotta like come up with a reason to keep them.

Tim 53:20

Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Andy 53:23

It's true.

Tim 53:24

They all have sentimental value.

Chris Jones 53:26

Well, they do now.

Tim 53:28

Yeah.

Chris Jones 53:29

So now it's like, you know, can't get rid of them because, you know, they're meaningful.

Andy 53:33

So I saw on Instagram that you were hanging around the old pencil factory in Greenpoint.

Chris Jones 53:39

Yeah.

Andy 53:40

Were you there for a reason you cannot disclose or were you just in Brooklyn and thought you'd check it out?

Chris Jones 53:47

No, we ventured all the way over to Brooklyn just for fun and not to go to Ikea this time and thought like, oh, hey, that's really close to where we live, so we should go check it out. And lo and behold, the ever heard favor compound is still there. There's several buildings and they're turning it into high priced lofts. And of course they are office spaces.

D 54:15

Yes.

Chris Jones 54:15

Because everything, everything that is not nailed down in New York and, or Brooklyn is turned into a loft at some point. I think it's part of the city law.

Andy 54:26

I think that for a while the Kickstarter HQ was there. I don't know if they, if they ever moved it or if it's still there.

Chris Jones 54:36

I don't think that one's there. I think they moved to closer to Dumbo, next to Etsy. I have no idea why I know that, but I believe that is correct.

Andy 54:48

It's down in Doi Cytripla, isn't it? If you've been to that neighborhood,

D 54:55

DOA

Chris Jones 54:56

Stripa is like the hottest up and coming neighborhood.

Andy 55:01

Have you guys?

Johnny 55:01

Yes, I do.

D 55:01

Get the rest.

Andy 55:02

Have Tim or Donnie. Have you ever watched How I Met yout Mother?

Tim 55:06

No, not in a while.

Andy 55:07

So it's a. It's a show. It's set in New York. They keep hearing about this amazing neighborhood called doui Ctripla. And they're trying to figure out what that stands for. And eventually they find out that it stands for downwind of the sewage treatment plant.

Chris Jones 55:25

But because the property values were so incredibly cheap, like. Yeah, but there's got to be a catch. We can't figure out what the catch is. It's because it is, as you said, downwind from the sewage treatment plant.

Andy 55:37

Turns out

Chris Jones 55:41

I would like to plug. Harry Marks and I are going to be crowdfunding a. Or starting a GoFundMe to. Since they're the number two perfume. We're going to market a Axe type body spray based on the smells of Penn Station on a hot summer afternoon. Yeah, that's the look we're going for. The sound we're going for.

Andy 56:10

Yeah, I can't. I can't wait for that one.

Chris Jones 56:15

There are several things that I wish I could tell you guys that are really exciting.

D 56:20

The.

Chris Jones 56:21

Someday I'll be able to tell you. Like, that's the thing I wanted to tell you, but I can't. So I'm just gonna have to be a jerk and just put that teaser out there.

Andy 56:30

Just put a. Put a marker.

Chris Jones 56:32

Really awesome things.

Tim 56:34

That's. That's rough.

Chris Jones 56:35

Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. Tim especially is gonna. A couple of these are gonna especially hurt you, but I can't share them now.

Tim 56:43

Is Wilco, like, playing in the, like, lobby of your apartment building or something like that?

Chris Jones 56:51

No, in the hallway right outside. We just open the front door and, like, you know. That's enough, Jeff Tweedy.

Tim 56:57

Go away, Jeff Tweedy. We're trying to sleep in here.

Chris Jones 57:03

Like, I gave you a cheese sandwich an hour ago. Go away, Jeff Tweedy.

Tim 57:07

Come on. Go find somewhere else to busk. Well, we'll look forward to hearing about those things.

Chris Jones 57:14

Yeah. Yeah.

Tim 57:17

At some point.

Chris Jones 57:18

And I will look forward to sharing them at some point.

Tim 57:22

Cool.

Andy 57:22

Awesome. Well, Chris where on the Internet can people find at least some of the not so secret projects that you're working on?

Chris Jones 57:33

The most public project is Graphite Confidential, which is@graphiteconfidential.com also Instagram and Twitter and Facebook. All the same, just Graphite Confidential. Me personally, if you know, if you're into that sort of thing, I am at Chris Allen Jones because there are many, many. There are too many Chris Joneses in this world. So that's why I had to throw in the middle name just to be all pretentious about it.

Andy 58:06

Are you also on Twitter yelling at Jeff Bezos like our. Our friend Harry?

Chris Jones 58:11

No, I am just standing in solidarity with Harry and liking all of his yelling at Jeff Bezos tweets.

Andy 58:20

Cool.

Chris Jones 58:22

That is how his East Coasters roll.

Andy 58:24

That's how it goes. Yeah. All right, sir. It's good to hear from you.

Tim 58:28

Cool.

Chris Jones 58:30

Good talking, you guys. At least, Johnny, because you're close.

D 58:34

Closest.

Johnny 58:35

Yeah, Definitely this summer.

Tim 58:36

Hey, I'm gonna. I'm going to be in Baltimore, what, in September for 36 hours. So if any pencil people want to try to get down to Baltimore.

Johnny 58:48

I know one.

Tim 58:49

You know one? Yeah. Yeah.

Andy 58:51

So does it the Cubs just happen to be playing there?

Tim 58:55

They do. It happens to be coinciding with a business trip of my dad's and he bought me a ticket to meet him up there and go watch the Cubs and dude, it's Johnny. Yeah, we're staying in Baltimore and then going to a game in Washington, so. Dude.

Johnny 59:10

And the right notepads bindery is pretty close to. The stadiums are next to each other for some reason.

Tim 59:18

Wait, what?

Johnny 59:18

Oh, you're not coming to Baltimore Station?

Tim 59:20

No, no, we're going to National Stadium.

D 59:22

Crap.

Johnny 59:22

So what?

Andy 59:24

So what?

Johnny 59:24

Who cares? We'll go.

Andy 59:25

We'll go to the harbor.

Johnny 59:26

We'll drink beer, we'll visit Chris. It'll be a terrible time.

Tim 59:29

Let's do it.

Johnny 59:30

No one's going to have any fun.

Andy 59:31

Such a go.

Tim 59:32

No fun will be had.

Chris Jones 59:34

No fun.

Andy 59:35

I'm gonna come too.

Tim 59:37

No fun for you.

Andy 59:38

All right, see you, Chris.

Tim 59:40

All right. See you, Chris.

Chris Jones 59:42

Thank you. Thanks, guys.

Andy 59:44

He said don't call us C. We'll call you. Right.

Johnny 59:52

We're gonna talk about this more later.

Tim 59:53

Okay,

Andy 59:56

well, so I never heard back from with a different phone number for commit. So while we wait for that, I'm going to call our super secret friend who probably doesn't want to hear from us, but right now it's probably just a tradition.

D 1:00:17

Hi.

Andy 1:00:18

Hello.

D 1:00:20

Hi.

Andy 1:00:21

Is this Christopher? Christopher?

D 1:00:25

Really? You Know what? Let me take off my CPAP mask.

Andy 1:00:32

Oh, no.

D 1:00:36

It's gonna happen now. Never call me by that name.

Andy 1:00:40

Okay.

Tim 1:00:41

Okay.

D 1:00:43

So what's up?

Andy 1:00:45

Well, I also. I wanted to tell you about a newfound love in my household for Topo Chico.

D 1:00:51

Oh, Topo Chico is amazing.

Chris Jones 1:00:53

Yeah.

Andy 1:00:54

Have you guys ever had Topo Chico?

Tim 1:00:56

Never heard of it.

Johnny 1:00:57

Is this a food?

Andy 1:00:58

It is a.

D 1:00:59

No, it's a sparkly water.

Andy 1:01:01

Yeah, it's a sparkling mineral water.

D 1:01:05

It's very good. It's very sparkly. It's a product of Mexico. I think it used to sell for like 50 cents, three, five years ago, probably.

Andy 1:01:18

Until the hipsters got to it.

D 1:01:21

Huh?

Andy 1:01:21

Until the hipsters got to it.

Tim 1:01:24

Yeah. You know, so you can get it.

D 1:01:26

One good thing they found.

Tim 1:01:28

Is it flavored or is it just like.

Andy 1:01:30

Nope, it's water flavored.

Tim 1:01:32

Water flavored.

D 1:01:33

Water flavored ones. I have a lime flavored one.

Andy 1:01:38

Oh, I didn't know that. Wine flavored, you say?

D 1:01:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lime flavored.

Andy 1:01:42

Oh, lime. I thought you said wine.

Tim 1:01:44

Yeah,

Andy 1:01:46

yeah. So.

D 1:01:49

So what did you want to talk about?

Andy 1:01:51

Well, I just wanted to.

D 1:01:52

I said we can talk about anything.

Andy 1:01:54

I wanted to figure out how you got the password to the website to upload that. That episode of Erasable between you and you and Hagen and Lyss.

D 1:02:06

I knew it would be a Merlin man reference, so it was just Principle 69. Pretty easy to figure it out. Only you get that joke. Only you get that joke. It's terrible.

Andy 1:02:18

It was just. I have a ham radio. That's what it said.

D 1:02:22

That's actually a Simpsons reference.

Andy 1:02:24

Well, yeah, but by way of Merlin.

Tim 1:02:27

Yeah,

Andy 1:02:29

no, that's all I have to talk about. What do you want to talk about?

D 1:02:34

I have a. I don't know.

Andy 1:02:36

Oh, you have a Patreon campaign.

D 1:02:39

Oh, yes. I. I have one patron. It is you. Well, it's fancy. You gotta. I know you would back me, too, but you have no money because you're a dog. I understand that. Sorry. I have a patreon. It's at patreon.com toffer you can back that and I will send you a. There's different levels, but Andy got an index card with the poorly drawn drawing on the back.

Andy 1:03:12

It's true. It's now hanging on my refrigerator.

D 1:03:16

You did?

Andy 1:03:17

Yeah.

D 1:03:19

That's cool. I'm actually happy about that. What side is that? The suggestion or the drawing? The drawing.

Andy 1:03:30

Yeah. No, it's on the drawing side, not the suggestion side.

D 1:03:33

Okay, awesome. Have you tried the suggestion?

Andy 1:03:38

No, not yet. I should grab that.

D 1:03:41

Wow. You paid for that and you're. That's what the value is?

Andy 1:03:47

Two whole dollars?

D 1:03:49

Yeah. Every month.

Andy 1:03:50

Well, actually, it's Rupert and Sebastian who, you know, actually submitted it, so they have not yet paid it out.

D 1:03:58

Yeah, they're good people.

Andy 1:04:00

Yeah, it's true. They're my cats. Of course.

D 1:04:03

So, Tim, what's up? I just want you to know that I love you. And I wish we talked more.

Tim 1:04:12

I love you, too. I couldn't agree more.

Andy 1:04:16

Yeah, shut up, Johnny.

Tim 1:04:17

Regular thing.

D 1:04:18

Johnny. Johnny. I do love texting you in the morning. Okay, I didn't say I loved you. I said I love text.

Johnny 1:04:27

I said I love it, too.

Tim 1:04:29

I love it, too.

D 1:04:31

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm just. So you see, you confessing your love for me. That I. I just. And I don't really listen to you. That I don't listen to you. No, I'm pretty sure that's known. The other part. Okay, Andy, I love you, too. I. I should go to bed.

Tim 1:04:54

Because if.

D 1:04:55

If I don't end this, you're gonna let it go too long again. Already uncomfortable. It's already uncomfortable for everyone here.

Andy 1:05:06

Just all end in tears.

D 1:05:08

All right.

Andy 1:05:09

All right. Sweet dreams. Sweet dreams, Topper.

D 1:05:13

I love you all. Except for the people listening.

Andy 1:05:16

Yeah.

Johnny 1:05:17

All right.

D 1:05:17

Have a good day.

Johnny 1:05:18

Goodbye.

Tim 1:05:19

See you, Topper.

Andy 1:05:20

Listen, kid, you pay for the call.

Harry 1:05:22

That way you ain't bad, but I heard it all.

Tim 1:05:27

Well, I don't actually know how to hang up on it. I just went to his Patreon 1 patron. I'm guessing that is you.

Andy 1:05:37

That would be Sebastian, Rupert.

Tim 1:05:39

Yeah. There you go. There's the first post by him. Just says, thanks, Andy. A bunch of rewards are being sent out. Thanks, Andy.

Andy 1:05:52

All right. Well, Johnny, did you ever hear back from our friend Kamet?

Johnny 1:05:58

Nope, not yet.

Andy 1:05:59

Okay, well, I wonder if we should. Should we? Okay, we have two things we can do. We can either end the show, or we can try this number again.

Johnny 1:06:13

I'd like to try the number.

Andy 1:06:15

Do you want to try it again?

Johnny 1:06:16

But if it's not her, then we should use some sort of accents.

Andy 1:06:21

I'm going to let you lead this. Lead this, Johnny.

Johnny 1:06:24

Okay. Not going to be able to do without laughing.

Andy 1:06:29

Okay, hold on just a second. I copied. Okay, you ready? This has somehow just turned into a prank call show.

Tim 1:06:45

Yeah, all of a sudden we're like.

Andy 1:06:47

Like crank anchors or whatever.

Tim 1:06:49

Cranky anchors. Yeah.

Johnny 1:06:49

You should really do that.

Tim 1:06:51

Really nerdy crank anchors.

Andy 1:06:53

Just a bunch of puppets. Do you have any puppets we can make do this? Okay. Dialing right now.

D 1:06:59

Your call has been forwarded to an automated voice messaging system. At the tone, please record your message. When you've finished recording, you may hang up or press 1 for more options.

Tim 1:07:11

Hello, we are calling you to talk about pencils. Please call us back at 2.

Andy 1:07:16

I think you. I think you nailed it.

Tim 1:07:19

So does he have to hang up on us now?

Andy 1:07:20

Oh, I guess so.

Johnny 1:07:25

Okay.

Andy 1:07:26

Oh.

Tim 1:07:26

Welcome to the Erasable Podcast.

Andy 1:07:29

Goodbye. Goodbye.

Tim 1:07:31

I guess

Andy 1:07:34

I actually don't know how to.

Tim 1:07:38

He's gonna get the whole end of our episode.

Andy 1:07:41

I'm going to hang up on all of you and then try this again.

Tim 1:07:45

Okay, let's do it.

Johnny 1:07:55

Technology cooperated all night.

Andy 1:07:56

Yeah, it has so far, except for. Except for that. All right. Tim, you back?

Tim 1:08:02

I am.

Andy 1:08:03

All right. Well, I guess we should probably. Probably just ended on this note. I guess Toffer was the. Was the ultimate and final guest.

Tim 1:08:14

Did not disappoint.

Andy 1:08:15

Yeah, he never does.

Tim 1:08:17

All right, cool. That sounds good. Yeah, that was fun.

Andy 1:08:23

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Do you want to button it up, Johnny?

D 1:08:26

Sure.

Johnny 1:08:28

So we are the Erasable Podcast. In case, for some reason you don't already know that.

Andy 1:08:33

Like that guy who's called.

Johnny 1:08:35

Yeah, that poor guy. Actually, it would be funny if he, you know, he knew where it was and found us on social media and email and dear sir, thanked us for changing his life.

Andy 1:08:48

That's true. Maybe he didn't even know he liked pencils.

Johnny 1:08:51

You guys have just made my life better. Thank you, guys. I want to send you each $1,000.

Tim 1:08:56

Random Acts of graphite.

Andy 1:08:57

Yeah, Random Axe of graphite.

Johnny 1:09:00

There's the title.

Andy 1:09:00

Yep.

Johnny 1:09:04

So whether we called you and left you a voicemail or you just want to find us because you're listening to this, you can find us on the Internet at Erasable Us. This episode will be@erasable us75. My goodness. We are on Facebook at the erasable pod or blah, blah, facebook.com erasablepodcast we're on Twitter, raceablepodcast. On Instagram, raceablepodcast. And all of those things are very cool, but they pale in comparison to our Facebook group, which is facebook.com groups erasable, which is the only reason, truly and honestly, that I ever even touch Facebook. And I keep hearing that a lot. So you should totally join it. And if you don't, then maybe you're not on Facebook or you don't like things that are fun or pancakes. I don't know. Something's wrong with you. So where can folks find you guys on the Internet?

Tim 1:10:01

You can find me on Twitter imwassum and I am on Instagram timothywassom How about you Andy?

Andy 1:10:08

I am on. What am I on? Woodclinch.com is my pencil blog that as I mentioned before I have not updated for a long time and I'm also on Twitter and Instagram Wealthley A W E L F L E How about you Johnny?

Johnny 1:10:25

I am on the Internet at Pencil Revolution on Twitter en solution on Instagram at my name and if you send me a private message I'll send you my phone number and we can chat in the morning like Topher and I do.

Tim 1:10:39

We get up early.

D 1:10:41

Yeah.

Johnny 1:10:42

So thanks for calling in especially and for our live folks and for everyone else join into the live stream next time because it's super fun and we added stuff and this way you don't you hear the edited stuff. Non edit stuff. True.

Tim 1:10:57

All prank calls included.

Andy 1:10:58

Yep.

Johnny 1:10:59

Oh my God.

Tim 1:11:09

The intro music for the Erasable podcast is graciously provided by this Mountain, a collaborative folk rock band from Johnson City, Tennessee. You can check out their music at www.thismountainband.com.