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Oh, yeah.

Man. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's been compared to the middle and like, crazy cold. Until yesterday, it shot up like 40 degrees. And today it was 58 or something. But before that it was. I mean, we were in the tens for over a while.

Gold. Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, it's the best.

Yeah.

I have been digging things as far as things that I've been watching. I watched the movie Prometheus the other night. Have you ever seen that? No, it's. It's part of the Alien series.

And I don't really have, like, I saw one or two of the Alien movies, but it's been so long, I don't remember much about them at all. But a friend had been recommending this for, like, three years, and it was a really good movie. It's kind of in the vein of Ex Machina or Arrival kind of, but a little more of an action movie than both of those. Not as slow, but It I. The. Both throughout watching it, I was thinking about it the whole time. Basically there are these archaeologists who find in all these different civilizations and cultures around the world the same image of these planets up in the sky, like the same formation. And so it's. And this is set in the Future. It's like 2090 something. And they, you know, are able to pinpoint where it is, like where this formation is. And so their theory is, because the pictures always come with these tall beings pointing at it, that that's where our creators are. And so they go. They go into this like hypersleep in this huge ship. And it takes a couple of years, but they finally get there. And yeah, kind of all hell breaks loose when they're there. But it's super interesting and really makes you think a lot. So it was a really cool movie. I liked it a lot. I'll probably watch it again someday.

And then I have finally started watching Brooklyn Nine Nine. I don't know if either of you are fans of this show. This. Andy Samberg's show about the Brooklyn Police Department. Like he's a detective in the police department.

I had only seen like one episode at that point, but this past week I was out of school all week long and I watched like 15 episodes or something. I watched a bunch. And it might be just as funny as like 30 Rock and Parks and Rec. It is really funny. It's a little sillier. It's more like silliness wise. It's more like 30 Rock.

But I love it. It's been so much fun. I'm still in the first season, but it's. It's a really, really funny show. So I've been really enjoying that. And I've been reading. I guess it's kind of. I don't know if it was just a vacation kind of thing or I needed a little bit of escape because things have been so nuts lately. And with. With the house and we closed on the house last Thursday and so that process is finally done. I. Our bank owns this. Yeah, yeah, our bank owns this house that I'm in right now, which is really special. Super special. But that was done. And I just needed something to like. I don't know, something like easier but not too easy, you know? Does that make sense? Like an easy read that was. Didn't like, make me feel like I'M wasting my time. And so somebody had recommended, or actually J. Robert Lennon from the Lunchbox podcast had recommended over Twitter a long time back, Lee Child, along with a bunch of other stuff. But I'd never read a Lee Child novel. The Jack Reacher books, and I think I had tried them at some point and just kind of was underwhelmed. I think I just wasn't expecting the right thing. I didn't have the right mindset going into it. But this time I did. And I blew through Never Go Back, which they made a movie of a couple years ago, which I also watched after I finished the book. And it was crap. It was horrible, so don't watch that. But the book is really good. And now I'm reading the. The first one, which was the Killing Floor, which I'm going to talk about again in a little bit. And both of those are super entertaining. And he's just basically this ex military policeman who's a. Now he's a drifter. He just kind of wanders around aimlessly and finds himself in all these crazy situations, of course, but he's just this total tough guy, always. Always ready to figure out whatever's going wrong in this weird little town, you know. But I loved it. It was. It was a lot of fun. So it was a good. It was a good read. I enjoyed that. So I was. Yeah, Never Go Back and the Killing Floor and then listening. I had been listening to a lot of Tom Petty because of the sad news about his accidental overdose, the opioid overdose that came out. His family had released a statement on their website, which really makes me sad. Tom Petty is one of my heroes, my favorite musicians ever. And it got me thinking about kind of like, who would pick up the. The Torch, you know, the Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, as far as basically being the biggest band in America, like in. In rock, I think. And my pick for who should replace them is. I kept thinking about ryan adams. Not summer 69 brian adams, but Ryan Adams, who I've talked about before, Ryan Adams and the Cardinals. And so I've been listening to a lot of Ryan Adams and the Cardinals. Like, the album Cold Roses is one of my favorite ever that I've talked about on here before, but it's one of my favorite albums ever. And his album, Gold. So listening to a lot of Ryan Adams, but Tom Petty makes me sad. I miss him so much. Like, I think I feel. He feels like a family member. Like, I'll just like, randomly tweet. I miss Tom Petty. I just do that it feels like every month or so since he's passed away. And I'm writing with a Mitsubishi 9852. Ew. I've been using pretty much only that the last couple days. I really like it. And I am using a Portland field notes that I got for Christmas. That's me.

Where are you watching it?

I had. That. I had the passport thing for. It might have been for Victoria last year. And then our little PBS station, you know, like, to cancel it, you actually have to call your PBS station. And we weren't using it. It was just.

I couldn't do it online. I couldn't email them, and I had to call, but I literally would get, like, a physical voicemail machine. Like, when I'd call and be like. And they never would call back, I was like, yeah, I'm just, you know, trying to cancel our passport for now, and we just don't need it right now. Yeah, never get a call back. And finally I got a letter in the mail that said. Or no, I got a voicemail that said, hi, Mr. Wason, we're calling because your credit card expired and we need to re up your. Nope, not gonna happen. Sorry. Not. I'm probably gonna have to renew it because I really want to see Victoria.

Like.

Yeah.

Mm. Yeah, it might be. I'm not sure but I think we have it on dvd.

Think too much. So it's. Yeah, we allow ourselves to watch stupid TV shows and that's not. There's nothing wrong with that. But for some reason we feel bad when we read like a less than like uber literary book, you know? I don't know.

I almost mentioned Sublime and I had to look up the. I was like the sublime sun, you know, from that. And I looked it up and it's not the same at all. But that's what. That's the. My first thought went to Sublime. Johnny.

Yeah.

Yeah, let's do it. Sure.

The first thing I think really wanted to talk about was the article from the New York Times that came out recently, which was titled Inside. Yeah. Have you heard Inside?

People weren't interested in making sure we knew that was out. But yeah, we had a lot of awesome friends and fans of the podcast share this with us. And, I mean, that's how I found out about it. I mean, I didn't know it existed until started to get shared. And it was really cool to see the New York Times doing a feature about General Pencil Co. It's called inside One of America's Last Pencil Factories. And it's got this article by Sam Anderson, Photographs by a guy named Chris Christopher Payne, who had apparently been going. Correct me if I'm wrong, but hadn't even going to generals for like a year, like, off he'd gone several times taking all these pencils. He'd taken just tons of pictures all around of the different stages of pencil making. And really any picture that you see would make an awesome pencil. Pencil nerd. Computer background. You know, there are so many cool pictures of the making colored pencils. And then seeing the graphite cores in there, like, being stacked and baked to dry out. And there's the extrusions of the graphite that are all winding around like snakes in a big bucket. You get to see that. And it's. Which is very cool. The colored pencils are really something else to see. Just those bright, bright cores with the. Yeah, these edges hanging off. And there's pictures of some of the employees. There's one guy who's been working there for 47 years. Different, you know, different points of the factory. It is just. It is a really cool article. It's a really cool kind of meditation on what makes pencils so great. And before I. I just wanted to read this one little paragraph that a lot of people have shared and, and mentioned and talked about. But right towards the end of the article, Anderson says, in an era of infinite screams. Screams. Well, that's definitely the era we're in is infinite screens. That's accurate. But I'm going to start over in an era of Infinite screens. The humble pencil feels revolutionarily direct. It does exactly what it does when it does it right in front of you. Pencils issue. Digital Jiu jitsu. That's quite a sentence. They are pure analog. Absolute presence. They help to rescue us from oblivion. Think of how many of our finest motions disappear untracked. How many eye blinks and toe twitches and secret glances vanish into nothing. And yet, when you hold a pencil, your quietest little hand dances are mapped exactly from the loops and slashes to the final dot at the very end of a sentence. It's a great little paragraph. So, yeah, this is. What did you guys think about this, this article and this feature? I mean, it's always good to see attention for this kind of stuff for the analog. But what are your thoughts?

I wonder about their gloves pictures, if they actually are that color or if that's just because they're covered in graphite.

Oh yeah, that's cool. Oh, there's actually an answer to my, to that his. Their gloves are clear. There's a picture, another picture where their gloves are clear. And so the ones that are solid silver graphite. It's amazing.

in some ways. Like there are videos out there about how pencils are made and all this, but there's something about this article that's even more.

Engaging and interesting thinking about the process just with these still images that almost. It makes it seem so.

Which it is. I mean, so such an amazing process and when you see it just in still frames, it makes it even more intriguing because it makes you want to fill in the gaps. Right. It makes you want to think about, like, how does it get from there to there? And there's all these. You see the. All that. Yeah. That big machine full of semi hex ferrules. And you're like, that is awesome. I want to see how. Yeah, how that happens. Then you get kind of a. Just a little glimpse and it's like, oh, those ones have erasers, but those ones don't. Like, that is wild that. That machine can do it.

So earlier I was talking about reading some Lee Child novels. I read Never Go Back and the Killing Floor and. And I discovered, because I can't read a book without googling author's name and pencil together on the viewer. If you can.

I've never done that. Oh, I do it every. Every book I read. No, I'm.

Okay. You just said doo doo. But yeah, yeah, I. I do that every time. And then of course, like, also we'll do pen or whatever, you know, like. But always pencils first. And I did that with Lee Child and got a hit immediately and ended up on an article. Well, several different things reference this, but I'm going to link to an article from WH Smith, the stationer's blog. Yeah. And apparently he. Lee Smith came from a different profession. He was working in television for seems like a pretty long time. He was in television for a while and then was laid off by his downsizing network that he was working for. He was some kind of like production organizer. Like, he worked on sets and helped organize like all the different people or something like that. But anyways, he lost his job and was just kind of like wandering through a. At the. The Arndale center in Birmingham, or Birmingham is how they would say, I guess. But he had been thinking about writing, and it was kind of his moment of like, I'm gonna go. You know what? I'm gonna go for it. And he went into a WH Smith and he bought three legal pads, a pencil, and a little pencil sharpener. And he just immediately went to a desk or a table, you know, somewhere nearby and started writing pieces of what would eventually become the Killing Floor, which is the book that I'm reading right now, which was his first novel, his first bestseller, and now he has 22 bestsellers or something insane like that.

Yeah. And so he. On this link to this website, you can see the pencil that he picked. They have a picture of it. It's. He has it in a case like on his shelf. It's this little short about, you know, sub Steinbeck stage. Little yellow capped pencil that says shorthand on the side of it that he had used to write, you know, a good portion of that, the first few chapters or something that he put on those legal pads and eventually graduated onto typewriters and then computers, you know, as time went by. That was in 1994. But it's cool to find the writer that you're interested in had a real kind of pencil origin story. So that's worth checking out and looking into it. I always love seeing pictures of the pencils that somebody actually used, you know, which is just very cool. So, yeah, I don't. I can't really tell what the brand is. I tried to look it up. It might just be a WH Smith brand pencil, like branded pencil. But it looks like a nice one. It kind of. It reminds me of a. Of a Derwent or, you know, some kind of general English pencil. English pencil company or like a Faber Castell kind of thing. It's just this kind of school bus, yellow with a white band around the end of it. So. Yeah, I just thought that was cool. Yeah, it was definitely worth sharing. And the next point I wanted to share, which I know all of us have been excited to talk about, is the new release from Baron. Figures.

Which that's what I was expecting to hear the first time we recorded this section. And I heard nothing. I was like, you're like, come on, guys, come on, get excited. Yeah, we had a full. Tell everybody what happened. We had a little hiccup. And so I talked for, I don't know, three or four minutes uninterrupted.

Went through that whole Lee Child story and then like talked about the Baron fig thing for like two minutes or something. But,

Yeah. So they came out with new Confidant and Squire release that they called the lock and Key. And they can go hand in hand. And the confidant is a forest green, beautiful forest green confidant with dot grid pages. And the box that comes in is forest green with gold.

Yeah, he really loves green. Yeah.

Yeah. And it is a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful notebook. If it was just. If the release was just the notebook, I would have been. This would have Been my favorite confidant I've ever had, I think. And it's. And that says a lot for me because it's dot grid, and I'm not a dot grid fan. But I just love this thing, the gold maze on the inside. And then it has these symbols that you can decipher using the case of the squire. They came out with, which was the first brass squire, which has a little key emblem on the side of it. So you've got the lock, which is the notebook, and the key, which is the pen, which was perfect. And I. It worked out really nicely with closing on the house that I. I was all pumped up, and I took the pen to the closing because we already lived in the house that we're buying. We've been here for a year and a half. So it was kind of an anti climax, you know, when you're.

Congratulations. We're gonna go back home. But. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna take this pen. It is called the key. This is perfect. It's like the key to the house,

And then I walked in and, like, he handed me the first thing to sign of, like, the 45 things that we had to sign. I, you know, he had put pens out for us. And I clicked it, you know, twisted it open. It was almost like Jimmy Fallon doing the thank you notes. Like, my hand was like, coming down to right? And he went, wait, he. Is that blue ink? And I was like, no, he's like, it has to be blue ink. I was like, what?

It had to be blue ink. There was, like, their policy because everything's in black and they scan everything and they need to have a different color ink to verify that it was, like, real or something. So I had to use this crappy, you know, pen with their name on the side of it. So that was a bummer. Yeah, I had it there. It was there. It was on the table the whole time. So I had that to be happy about. Yeah. But what are you. Yeah, what are your thoughts? Let's. Let's talk about the. The lock and key a little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's.

The.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I totally agree. They're heavier. And I actually, my feelings are that the Squire, the original Squire, because of the inverted shape, you know, the bigger parts at the base by the. By the point, and then it gets smaller as it goes up, that the. The weight of it kind of messes with me a little bit. And I don't. I don't. I kind of have to press down, which I just don't like to do in general because I have a really light touch when I'm, you know, I'm writing. So I would. I used it and I used it a lot, you know, but there's just something that could have been a little better. And getting this one, I realized that that was the answer. Like the brass one I love because it holds itself down. All I ever. All I really have to do is hold on to it. And I got. I guess just having used fountain pens for many years, I've got just kind of a lighter hold because you don't have to push down and hold them real tight. You don't need the death grip. So I can just kind of hold onto it and let it sit on the paper and I don't have to push down. And you can just let it glide with that really nice Schmidt refill they use. And so I think the. I think at this point, I think the brass one is. And for me is superior to the. The aluminum one. I love this thing.

And my. My only. You know, like, my main criticism with the Squire, and I don't think I'm alone in this is just that it's. It's really hard to get used to something that doesn't have a clip. Yeah. That you can't put in a breast pocket. I know the idea and I get it, and I appreciate the idea of just being able to toss it in your pocket, but I don't like doing that. Yeah. So I just don't. I don't. And I've lost. I lost my Squire. I had bought a Squire sometimes, like an aluminum one, and. And I'd been put in my pocket, you know, and just at some point it just fell out and I lost it in Ashville somewhere. And that was a big time bummer. And I just don't like. Yeah. Just like, keeping in the pocket. And I also don't like that. I don't know if my pants are just more linty than most people's.

Yeah, my cheapo teacher pants are just, like, too linty that I'll pull the pants or, like, I'll pull this out of my pocket and I'll, you know, twist it and then, like, the end of the pen will just have, like, lint on it and then I'll have to, like, clean it off and I'll have it on my hand.

Well, that I can't help because it's, like, in the air at our house because our dog sheds so much. Rosie. But. But I love. I love the brass key. This thing is super, super cool. And I. I've been keeping it in my Dudek block on my desk at school and using it all the time.

I. I kind of like it too.

Andy lives in a land without seasons. Yeah, it's just paradise.

Eternal.

Cool.

Yeah, I was, I was the same way. I was dying to talk about this. And like, I actually posted a picture like a day early, but I, it was just like a placket, like a pocket shot, like my pocket of my shirt. And if you look at it on Instagram, you can see the, just the butt end of the, the key kind of sticking out of the little. But the shirt actually has a pen slot in it.

If you look at it. Yeah, you can see it just kind of peeking out there a little bit. I posted, I was like, oh, wait, that's all right. Nobody will know what that is with

Yep.

All her glory.

Yeah, yeah, this one was blank on the inside. Then I would have probably bought like six. Yeah, just, I would have just stocked up and I still might get an extra one of these because these are really awesome. But if you're listening to this and you don't have one, I would jump on it quick because this is, I think, probably the most popular set they've had so far.

What?

That was insane. Yeah, that's insane.

locks on box. Box on locks and locks.

Locks on blocks, fox and socks.

I like it.

Those are really low profile.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Huge, huge fan of this one. So I'll be using this. And that's. It's always so cool to get something like this and have to say, like a huge thank you to Baron Fig for. Yeah, for sharing and sending us these. I mean, it was. I was super excited to talk about it and share it because I think people really should jump on this and take advantage of it. And I also, selfishly, I'm just excited to be using this pen for the next like five, 50 years. You know, I mean, it's gonna. It's one of those things. It's like, it's not going anywhere. As long as I don't lose it. It's. It's gonna last forever. It's gonna outlast all of us.

Yeah. Guys, just put yourself out of business with this pen. Never going anywhere.

Yeah. Yeah. But super big kudos and well done to Baron Fig on this. This. This. Nope. This confidant and squire combo, they crushed

but that's all I've got. So, Andy, what about you?

No idea.

Oh, so it's not like a drawing. It's like they are. You're drawing pictures.

Cool.

oh,

So

That's the American dream.

Yeah.

They're handy.

Boom.

Stressed out by how unclaustrophobic it was.

I am and very sad that I never made it to the.

That's where Jane and I are planning our. This is a long way off.

Our 10th anniversary, which is. It's like a year and a half away. Well, no, two years away, but we're. We're planning to do a, like, several day trip to New York City.

There for that. And so.

Yes.

Yeah. Speaking, please.

Yeah, you take us to a show. Enjoy it. I'm gonna go talk about pencils with Johnny and Andy and Harry Marks and.

Okay, love you. Bye.

Okay.

Sounds romantic. Yeah.

Nope, never evaporates.

It just flows downhill. I'm sorry. That's disgusting.

I'm so sorry. Oh, man.

Let's do it. Yeah, I'm excited about this one.

Whatever, Johnny.

It's a dessert pencil. Is that what she said?

Plastic pencil nonsense.

My favorite is the Tombow. And I'm just gonna say Ippo Tombo. Ippo, which I. I've had for a long time. I think it was actually the first pencil caps I ever ordered and I got them from Jetpens and they're really cheap. There's $1.90 and you get a pack of four and they're kind of squared. I'm going to describe them. They're squarish shaped with rounded corners and on the, the inside is kind of tapered and you can see it because they're translucent. You can see through and it gets smaller as you go up and there's a great fit like pretty much any standard size pencil. But the really cool feature of them is that they lock together. They got like. Each one has a little tab and then a slot on the side of it. And so you can lock them together and if you do it right you can lock all four together kind of in a square. So you just have a block with four pencils sticking out of the bottom, which I, I really like that feature. And so I, I use these all the time. I mean I use a lot of different kinds that I've gotten over the years from. But this one, I, I've, I've been very careful to hold on to the original. I think I got like eight of these the first time I ordered. It's $1.90 for four. So it's, it's not. I mean it's nothing. You get it from Jetpens. Very cool. I love these things. So I use these all the time. These are my by far my favorite plastic one. And then maybe a close second is going to be the one that, you know, Johnny, you're going to, you're going to talk about. But these are very cool.

The Tombow ones definitely are. So you should try those out.

It's like they're all good options. Like, you just tell. They're like. And almost there's kind of holding back on some of the stuff, especially some of the plastic ones. They have the really kind of hip metal ones and stuff that they're really cool. But.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, I've got a bunch.

Got a bunch of. Yeah, we. We had some of those sent to us, or. Who was it that sent those? I got those sent from somebody.

Oh, yeah, Luke. Yeah. I thought Dr. Hans had sent some, too, but maybe those are the metal ones. He said he sent the metal ones, but.

Yeah, they did get more expensive. The Michaels here used to sell them, and I bought them there once, and then I Had lost a couple and broken a couple and went to buy some and the price had like doubled. And I remember being kind of like, really? These. Like this. It's like maybe the cheapest item on the planet to make. How did the price go up on these? It's a tiny, tiny bit of plastic.

And I do think if you're not using like a huge, like a crazy long point, those things will stay on no matter what you do. They never fall off. So I agree with you on that because the. Some of the bigger caps will kind of get jostled and fall loose. But those things, they're like seamless. Yeah.

Sure. And I'm deferring blackwing caps to you because you had mentioned those on there. I love the blackwing caps, but outside of.

Outside of that, I do like the Katsua, how I'll pronounce it, Katsua caps, which are the pointed ones with the slit along the side that kind of like adjusts. And they're, they're the long ones. So they allow for, you know, any size point that you got on their Japanese pencil cap. I've seen them. They are, they come in, I know on CW pencils you can get them in all silk, silver, which are really sharp looking. And they've also got colored ones that come in a six pack.

Really? Yeah. I mean, I just, I'm partial to the silver ones myself, but they're really great points. They work on just about anything. And then if you've got. Because they have the slit in the side that if you got a little bit of a wider pencil, you can kind of stretch it out to fit a bigger pencil or if you've got a smaller pencil equally, you can kind of pinch it and it'll. It'll fit to that as well. And I've even had, I'm trying to think of. Oh, I've used it on a. Just a right dude's HB pencil. And those are a little skinnier than an average pencil, I feel like. And so when you. And you can put those down and you can even if you need to sort of cross the sections like on the either side of the slit and kind of overlap them a little bit to really squeeze it tight and it'll fit on just about anything. So those are, those are my, probably my favorite. And I think even with the black wing. I mean I love the black wing ones, but considering the price and that there's something about these Katsuo ones that I just really love because they're inexpensive and they last forever. I mean they will last literally forever as long as you don't lose them. Yeah.

Yeah, I need a refill.

I love matching pencil caps with feral colors.

My favorite thing to do.

He.

I'm gonna pretend like. I'm gonna mansplain. Pretend like I know exactly how it's. It's Kutsua Andy.

CW pencils has the multicolored ones.

It's a six pack. It's. It's got. It comes with silver and then like gold and green. Dark blue, light blue and red.

Yeah, I like that. The green one. I have one of those. And that thing looks amazing on a forest choice. Yeah.

Yeah. Love them.

Well, the.

Sorry, the second version.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just.

Go for it.

Take my thunder. It's all yours.

Yes.

That was the one I've seen other ones, like random places, but that was the one that CW pencils cells, which. I haven't used that specific one, but it looks amazing.

Yeah, I think that's a really cool idea. And I think. And I. Well, this will. I want to talk about this later, but I guess we could just talk about it now because it's on top of my mind. But why aren't pencil caps as normal as pen caps? Like, there's absolutely no reason why. Why they aren't as common. Yeah, they're just as useful. They're just as necessary.

So this is like what boring, stupid people think is what you're saying?

Oh, sure. Yeah. It seems like something that if a staples would just put out a display of like, inexpensive, practical pencil caps that people would pick up on. I could see my students, like, getting into that being, like, it's not something that's become a trend. Like stupid erasers become a trend. Right. Or like pencils that are made out of, like, weird colors and materials and like that like, kids will, like, get into. Because it's different.

Weird materials. I like those stupid. I mean, I just don't like those Bic. What are they called? Like, Ultra Fun or like, Fun Times Pencils?

Extra fun pencils.

Yeah, but they suck.

And they just like. Yeah, anyways. But I feel like pencil caps could take off. Like, that could become a thing like, where kids would get, like, crazy pencil caps.

I have to say. Like my pick for the. And this is like a loose definition of multifunction. But when I first saw that category that we had come up with, the first thing actually came to my mind was recycled caps. Like getting caps from different things. And for me that's. I've always, as long as I've been into pencils, have been playing around with different pen caps that fit pencils, you know, that I can interchange. And my favorite combination that I've come across that I've, I've used for years is, you know, the sharpie makes like several different pens. Not the markers, but the pens and the ones that are just a uniform kind of streamlined shape and have flat ends on it. Not the ones that are shaped like a capsule.

You know, I'm talking about.

That cap for that pen fits perfectly on a laddie. Really a, A Ticonderoga lady. And so I've been doing that for years.

I've. I like a really old Instagram post that of doing that. But it's a perfect fit and you can clip it in your pocket. And I love, I love doing that. So I like playing around with that kind of stuff. And I think the other one is with the right notepads, jumbo pencil. And I guess it. With any jumbo pencil it fits, you can use. It wasn't a Sharpie cap, but it might have been the others like the capsule shaped Sharpie pen or something like that. But just. I just encourage you like play around with that. Like if you. Even before you order caps is if you got some pens sticking around that especially a little bit slightly larger pens like the ladder things that have a thick lacquer on them that pen caps often do a. Do the trick. Yeah. And it's just kind of fun to play with.

I don't know what that is.

What?

I want to see one I'm reading. So I think it was the last episode where I talked about how I hate fantasy, but I'm reading fantasy, so I'm still reading that book, the Name of the Wind. Yeah. And there's a. The. It's a cool premise, is that the story is told by this character called the Chronicler, but he's retelling the story that was told by the protagonist. So the protagonist told him the story and then the premise is that he is this writer who then like reworked that story and turned it into like a pretty final product. But when you were describing that, I was picturing it in the Chronicler's like satchel on the side of his donkey. It's like I was like, well, that sounds super cool.

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's exactly that. That would. Yeah, that's totally.

Gosh, those were cool. Yeah. Thousand yen. What a ripoff.

It seems like it would probably snap pencils now and then, but for a shorter point it would probably work great. Like. Yeah, I don't know.

Also worth pointing out that those would be super duper, duper easy to make.

Like if you just get like one sheet of like one little sheet of leather or imitation leather or whatever and you could make like 15.

Yeah, you'd be. Or just even like you do it by hand probably. But yeah, look a little janky. But you could do that for. Yeah, nothing.

Yeah. Janky Caps.

Oh, if there's janky caps, that would be the best.

Janky caps.

Then you save yourself a thousand yen, man.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

It's no more bulky than like an average pen. Kind of like a thing like the. The Uniball air or something. It's not really that much bigger than just like having that in your pocket.

Yeah.

But so you figured out why? It. They didn't really catch on, but yeah.

You told them from looks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm.

This is going back to our previous conversation, but I'm thinking either janky caps

That's. That's real. That's a real thing. 2490. 2490.

Whiskey. Janky cap singles.

I'm looking through, like a big list of domain endings. That is just the best thing.

Yeah. Jankycaps University.

Oh, jankycaps Wang.

Yeah, it's right there. Yeah.

Jankycaps dot win. I think that we'll just finish on that.

But. Oh, man, there's a. Yeah. There's a lot out there with pencil caps that I think don't get enough attention. People don't use maybe enough.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I've got. Yeah. My black wing pencil bag. They gave us the zippered pencil bag.

Has like 15 pencils and all of them have different caps on it. Like, just because. Yeah.

And then minimizes the dust.

Yeah. Nice.

Cool.

It's just because we've learned so much.

Yeah.

Hold it in front of our face and run down the street.

Childhood.

Would have been my first tattoo. A pencil. Pencil fights would have been much less interesting with caps on them.

Oh man.

Yeah, you can, Mr. Tim. You can find me on Instagram at Timwassom or sorry, on Instagram, TimothyWassom. And on Twitter timwassom cool.

And don't forget Jankycaps.

Whiskey we'll see you on jankycaps. Wang. The intro music for the Erasable Podcast is graciously provided by this Mountain, a collaborative folk rock band from Johnson City, Tennessee. You can check out their music at www.thismountainband.