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Hello everybody, and welcome to episode 63 of the erasable Podcast. I'm your host, Andy Welfle. Tim is not joining us tonight. He is on paternity leave and probably the World Series Game 7 Leave. Go Cubs. I am joined by Johnny Gamber, as usual. And we have a special guest tonight, an artist and an art therapist whose moniker is probably familiar to most of you. That would be Les Harper, who is a blogger at Comfortable Shoe Studio and fellow admin of the group. Hey, Les, how are you?

Very good. How are you, Johnny?

Fantastically caffeinated. I am. I'm falling off of my caffeine high, as you probably can tell by the like six tries it took to start this. And I just started in with beer,

Shoot the Skyper Nuts. All right, so tonight we're recording on the third. No, we're recording the second of November, the beginning of NaNoWriMo. We're going to discuss composition notebooks. So Les is an expert on that topic. And tonight is going to be tighter than a stitched and tape binding. So we can all thank Johnny for that. He wrote the intro. So let's talk about tools of the trade. Les, what are you consuming? Either like into your body or else media. What are you writing with? And on.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Aww.

Clearly the universe is the worst.

Yeah, we didn't talk about those when we talked about store brand pencils, did we?

Okay.

I love those so much. I have. I have some of the ones with the cap, and I love the. The blue black. And I love the, like, the red black kind of makes kind of a brown, like, mahogany color.

Yeah, they're so good.

Yeah, that's a good one. Johnny, how about you?

No. I thought you were just confessing to something right now.

know, not like, Elon Musk, Tesla. Okay.

Bob's Burgers. It must be true. Yeah.

Cool.

What?

What general direction of music can one expect on the Pandora station?

Yeah, yeah.

I do have one.

That's the coffee Origins book.

Cool. Yeah, very cool.

I am. Well, I was hoping that by now I would be consuming the New Yorker food issue. It is my very favorite New Yorker. And I think we've talked about before how my wife renewed her subscription to the New Yorker, and so I've been reading it digitally while she reads the analog version. So last year the food issue came out by now, and this year it is not. So I am not reading that. Basically the time at night when I usually read. I'm just like, messing around on Reddit now. So I can tell you all sorts about memes, like all sorts of memes that are happening right now. Everybody's Halloween costumes. But no. So I guess, what am I consuming right now? We've been watching this strange kind of like dark comedy that is on. I think it's on Amazon prime right now. Like their. Their video service. It's called Fleabag. Have you guys heard of this?

It's a British playwright she is basically writing about. I don't think it's a true story. It's kind of like semi autobiographical. Her character doesn't have a name, and everybody kind of presumes maybe her name is Fleabag, but nobody ever uses her name on the show. It's a little bit dirty and it's a little bit dark, but it's very entertaining, so you should watch that. June Thomas recommended it on the XX Gabfest, which is her podcast, and she's been on this podcast before. So any recommendation of June is a recommendation for Me. So what am I? Oh, and I'm also consuming into my body a Long Root Ale, which is. It's brewed in Portland, Oregon. I picked it up in the little, like, single beer shelf at Whole Foods today. It's pretty good. I picked it up because it's a cool bottle. It's an entire pint. So by the end of this, I may not be coherent. So sorry about that. I'm barely coherent right now. I don't know what is wrong with me. Today I am writing with the Archer pencil by Baron Figg, which we talked a lot about the last episode. And I'm just writing into my field notes Lunacy edition. I'm using the Full Moon edition just because I started notes about this episode in that. Because it's in my back pocket. Yeah. So we're doing that. We should move on to fresh points. Les, do you want to start us off?

That's cool. Yeah.

Nice.

Yeah. What are you using to sharpen it?

Wow.

And are you using those. Those Walmart pencils?

Nice.

Yeah.

I don't even do NaNoWriMo, and I'm enjoying it. It's fun to see kind of people talking about, like, you know, their successes and their holdups, and everybody's very encouraging of each other. I think that's awesome.

Especially in this day and age in this election cycle.

Yeah,

That's awesome. Cool. So, yeah, if you are participating in NaNoWriMo or you're thinking about writing a manuscript kind of like, independent of that, go check out the manuscripting group. I'll have a link in show notes, which, by the way, if you want to see show notes for this episode and you don't have access to them in your podcast app, just go to erasable US 63. That'll be. That'll be this episode. Johnny, do you have any. Les, did you have any other fresh points?

Johnny.

So Ubai Yubai.

I think it's ubi. I think we can say ub.

Catch them.

I wasn't aware you needed a reason to cuss, Johnny.

What do you think, Les?

Yeah, I feel like the things, like, the qualities you'd want to look for, especially if you're, you know, just. Just trying to, like, get things down, is less about, like, how dark and smooth it is and just more about point retention. So that would make sense, but probably still not, like, too scratchy and hard because, you know, you don't want to, like, cr. While you're trying to move it around the page. Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

If I was doing something pretty long form, and I realize at this point it may just make me sound like a shil for Baron Fig, but I think I would try out the Archers, because they do have pretty good point retention, I think, and they're, like, you know, not buttery smooth, but they're. They're, like, good scratchy, and they're super light, so it's not like it should be. It should be easy to just keep it gliding across the page too fast. Yeah.

Cool.

Mein Komp. I think we have a show title right there.

Yes, we have.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So here's. Here's my thoughts on this, because I thought a lot about it, because I was sort of like, this really rubs me the wrong way, but what's the difference between this and, like, field notes? Tribute to, like, you know, old school agricultural notebooks? I think part of it is kind of lies in the. Because, I mean, they're both. They're both sort of, like, trying to pay tribute or, like, show, like, the ultimate version of something. I think with field notes Though, you know, a. They're not so much more expensive. They're like. They come out to about three or four dollars a book per notebook, which is much different than $19 per notebook. But also field Notes is more about sort of like, you know, this holistic, like, recrafting of, like, reinventing of it every month or every, what, quarter? And just like sort of celebrating it. Whereas I feel when I was watching the Kickstarter video for this, for the comp, we talked about this a little bit in the group, and I almost feel like they're sort of fetishizing it.

Yeah. It's like, it looks really good quality. I think they took it a little far when they were like, we hand drew every single marble, like, piece of marbling on the COVID of this. Yeah. Which. Yeah.

And then charging your grandparents for the equipment. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Totally.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. You know, and, like, kind of one of the clear signals I kind of got that, you know, if they were truly thinking so hard about this and making sort of the ultimate expression of a composition book. One of the huge features that seem to be lacking to me are the rounded corners. Like, you know, the composition books are great because you can just like, throw them in your bag and you can beat them up. And, you know, that doesn't take much damage. And I think the rounded corners are really key in that. You know, they don't get all, like, damaged and banged up, but no, they have, like, pretty sharp corners and. Yeah, that just seems. That just seems like a big omission.

Yeah.

No, totally.

And I guess, like, if, you know, if it costs, you know, $3 per unit extra to do, like, rounded corners, like, go ahead, charge $21 for it. You might as well. Right?

Totally.

Johnny, I know that you have a little bit of a softer view of the comp. I don't know if there's any counterpoints that you want to give or.

Yeah, that was obscure.

And I also. I'm trying to figure. Cause they have those really beautiful notebooks in CW pencils that has that, like, marbled composition cover, but, like, the corners are different color, and it feels very much more like a journal than a composition notebook.

Yeah. And I'm trying to, like. I spent a lot of time trying to, like, reconcile this, like, gut feeling I had about it, because, you know, I really hate, you know, being inconsistent or whatever. But I. I think it's also just like, you know, they're not trying to be a composition notebook. Like, they. Those things are journals, and they say that, and it looks like a journal just with some like. Like paying tribute to a comp notebook with the marbling. But I don't know. I I agree. I. I'm sure they're like going to be a joy to use. Except. Yeah. Those lines look. Those lines look like I ran it through my laser printer. Right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. Cool. So, yeah, they're interesting. We had a big, big interesting discussion in the group and I'm glad that it wasn't like. I'm glad I had a gut check to make sure I just wasn't like way off in left field.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that it's maybe like high end consumer quality.

Cool. Les, I remember on your blog you had an interesting test with colored pencils. Did that happen after the Blackwing colored pencils came out?

Yeah, I think that's awesome. I'll put a link in. Show notes to your, like your blog's colored pencil category because they're fascinating. I don't like think a lot about colored pencils, but I love that this exists. Like this resource exists because you went through the rigor so we didn't have to. Yeah. Cool. Anything else, Johnny? Yep. Okay. One thing I thought I'd mention here is it's. I just actually today got an update that speaking of black wings, the holiday gift sets are out, which is pretty great, it looks like they're offering, which I would recommend for anybody who's interested in black wings. They've probably heard about black wings and therefore, you know, might want to try them out. There is a mixed set for the price of a dozen black wings. It's four MMXs, four 602s and four pearls inside a gift box. So they're only available during the holiday season. So yeah, that's a good way to get. Get samplers. If you wanted a sampler. But a low commitment sampler. Our friend Gary over at no Guist is shutting down. No Guist. I haven't actually talked to him and I have no idea why he's shutting it down. But that means there's a bunch of stuff on clearance. So he's selling singles of black wings and I think he has like a three sampler for like six bucks. Yeah. So kind of depending on the level of commitment that people want to make toward trying out some pencils. So there you can get from Gary, from Note Geist you can get three assorted black wings. And from pencils.com you can get a dozen. Or, or if you wanted to try it out, they also have a 36 pencil, like stock 65 bucks. And you get three dozen, one of each of the pencils and then also a long point sharpener. The black wing long.

Yeah. Yeah. I wish it came with a masterpiece instead of that long point sharpener, but eh, whatever. That box is really cool that it comes in.

I have one of those.

Yeah, I think so. It's. I set it on my dresser and I just keep a bunch of pencils in there. I have like my other. I have two of the masterpieces and I have one of them in there.

I got it as a Christmas gift the year that I worked it@pencils.com so it's really nice. Everybody got one that year. Speaking of sharpeners, should we talk about the Pollux Yeah, so this came out the day that we released, like, that we released the last episode. And so I texted Caitlin from Cwpencils, and I was like, why couldn't you have waited? Why couldn't you have come up with this one day earlier or announced it one day earlier? So some background. I think we've talked about it on the show before. The Pollux is made by Mobius, and I want to say Rupert, even though it looks like it's spelled Rupert Ruppert. Two Ps. It is. It seems like it's sort of a spiritual successor to the Janus or the AW Faber Janus, which has a slightly curved blade and makes a concave point. It's basically a way to achieve, you know, exposing a lot more graphite, but not having such a long point. It's basically a long point without the length, if you catch what I'm saying. So we all kind of thought these were going to be, like, $10,

people had talked about just a kind of the price of some other Mobius and Rupert stuff. And also there were some samples that some various retailers had, and that was kind of the msrp. So at some point along the way, the manufacturer was having some problems getting the tooling right on that brass, and that there was some sort of a brass supply chain interruption. And then also, I think they sort of realized that there was a demand for them that was higher than what they anticipated. So probably being generous, a combination of all three of those things. When they finally were released, the MSRP was $28. And right now, I think CW Pencils is the only one selling them. Do you guys. Can you guys confirm that? Do you think

Okay.

Okay. Yeah. So if you're in the U.S. probably the only way you can get one of these is through CW Pencils. It is $28. And I do want to sort of say on CW Pencil's behalf that this is not a price raising that CW has done. This is something that was suggested by the retailer.

Yeah, so they are exp. Did either of you buy one?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm that sucker. I have been waiting for one, and I honestly, I wanted to see it, too, because I really love the Janus. I never had a good functional Janus straw sharpener. I do have one, but it doesn't work and I can't find a way to replace that blade. As Darrell Edwards is saying in the chat, yes, $20 is still cheaper than a vintage Janus, which is like 60 bucks right now. Maybe there's a brass one and there's like a aluminum one. Maybe it's steel, I don't know. Anyhow, $28. I would say that if not for just being the sucker that I am, I would pay like 15 to $20 for it. I think $20, $28 is a little overpriced. That being said, I really love that concave point and I've been using it and my. Mine is like really well aligned. I've been having really good luck with it. Yeah. So I'm a big fan. I hope that they lowered the price because I bet they made a crapload of them and they need to sell them now. So my hope is that, yeah, Mobius and Rupert will lower the MSRP or allow CW pencils to sort of like lower their prices. If we can get it down around 20 bucks or less. Totally go for it. I'm going to work on a review eventually for my blog. Yeah, I like it a lot. Should we talk about. Sorry, go on.

I, I thought that it was okay. It was, it was kind of like that Alvin Bullet in that there's like very little of it to hold you like. And I, I do it, I use it left handed which always like makes it a little weird, but you know, there's only kind of a thin strip of gnarling on it as opposed to like the Alvin Bullet, which has like most of it is gnarled. Is that. What am I saying that correctly? Gnarled.

The knurling.

So. So that makes it a little bit harder to hold. But I think that in general it's like a bigger form factor than that. So it works fine for me. If I had like big like stubby hands, it might be harder. But yeah, I liked it a lot. I've been carrying around in a little like linen bag that it comes with because I just have it like loose in my, in my bag and I don't want things to like get caught on that blade and make a dent because as, as Les has alluded to at the moment, there's no way to, like, replace that blade that I can figure out. I don't think you can use, like, a regular sharpener blade because it's, like, slightly curved. Right.

Oh, it's longer, too.

Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah, if the blade is aligned properly. And it seems like there have been reports of it not being so and people have been like, returning it and getting a new one. No problem from CW Pencils. But, yeah, my mind works great. You can get a, like, hypodermic point on that thing. I've been showing some of my coworkers and just like, whoa, look at that. That's amazing. Um, and we just sort of like, sat down and compared it to a masterpiece and to the. The classroom family long points. And it's great. It's like a. It's like a good. I want to say it's like a centimeter shorter, but it exposes more lead, at least on a black wing, which is fantastic. Um, I haven't done the actual measurements yet. I'm going to do that for the review. But, yeah, I'm. I'm a big fan of. Of that. I'm not a big fan of the price, but I decided to just sort of take one for the team and cough that up. Yeah. So if you're, like, rich beyond your dreams, money's no object. Buy one. Totally get one right now. Or if you're an idiot like me, an idiot. The only other thing I was going to talk about. So also, since we last recorded and last talked about the Archers, I'm pretty sure that Joey alluded to it a little bit, but Baron Fig has since launched a subscription model. What's interesting about it is that it's not quite like Blackwing or field notes or write notepads. They basically put every single one of their product lines on subscription, like, quarterly subscriptions, including the Squire. So, like, their machined aluminum pencil. So they haven't gone into a whole lot of detail as to what, like, what's going to be different about them. Like, they talk about quarterly limited editions. We don't know if that means, you know, they're going to be like fundamentally different or if they're just going to, you know, like change the color. Yeah, it's hard to tell. So they have one for the confidants, which is actually pretty good looking in my opinion. It's. What is it, Johnny? It's 80 bucks a year.

Oh yeah, see that's.

I need to go in. Okay. I'm pulling up their website. Yeah, I actually really like that one. And I'm thinking about it because I usually end up buying there their quarterly releases. Like they have that work and play edition and they had the three legged juggler, which was my favorite thing is I don't go through four confidants a year. I kind of switch back and forth in and out of them and I go through them pretty slowly. But yeah, you can get a $70 Confidant subscription. You can get a $50 Vanguard subscription, which I think so. Apprentices have been rolled into the Vanguard line. Apprentices are no longer a thing. So you can get that. You can get a squire edition for $200 a year. Basically get four of them a year. I'm not quite sure why anybody would need to do that because the whole point is you're, you know, they're supposed to last for a long time.

And then they have a 65$64 Archer quarterly subscription, which I may also think

just because I kind of want to see what they do there. And they're pencils. That's our thing. Right. So so. Or you can do a super subscription which gets you one of everything every edition and it's $350 a year. So what do you guys think about this?

I think I read, I think I read that yes, they have an FAQ section. They go, do you know, do limited edition subscribers get their shipment first? So they say all subscriptions are fulfilled first before any non subscriber orders are fulfilled. Which tells me that yes, you will still be able to buy them kind of like piecemeal.

I was a big fan of the Work and Play one. But I know people who just absolutely love it, so I'm glad that they did it.

Yeah.

Yeah. I gave away my, my Work and Play one, but. Oh, no, Apprentice. We're talking about apprentices. Yeah, I have, I think I have every one of them except that last like, Explorer one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, that's.

Do you. Do you think less that it's. It's sort of like their, like, their branding and sort of their like, positioning?

Or do you think it's more about the like, materials?

Yeah.

I, I've heard. I've heard exactly the same criticism from people before, which I think is completely valid. Yeah, it's. It's funny because in, in sort of like the, like the tech world, people, People love them so much, which is also a very like, masculine world too. You know, there's.

There's a lot of white dudes who work in tech, which, which is a big problem. But also I think, I think that this is just like, you know, that they kind of go for that like minimalist feel and it's different than like, it's, I think part of the same like hipster ideal. Ideal. But it's not like, you know, a fetishized ideal. Like maybe the comp is. It's. It's definitely different. But I totally get what you're saying.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. You know, I think they fixed a lot of those problems and like they. They kind of redid their supply chain and kind of re relaunched like the. The product. But so here's what I'm thinking. You know, they're shorter. The Apprentices or the Little Vanguards now are shorter and wider. It's perfect for a men's shirt pocket.

So, yeah. So probably not for, you know, clothes made for other people.

Nothing's made for lady pockets.

It is true.

Nothing's Made for Lady Pockets. I think I like it.

So sometime after we're off the air, you can explain to me what that means. So I don't publish something that's just profane.

We'll talk about it later. Yeah, so I'm so.

Yeah, I feel a little weird about the subscription and I definitely have a terrible case of FOMO because I do generally, like, enjoy Baron Fig stuff. I like Joanne Adam a lot. I want to support them. I don't have $350 lying around. And if I did, I would just be like filling up my house with so much of the stuff, which I would not go through it fast enough. So having some fomo, I'll get over it. So, yeah, that is. That is the fresh points we have. Anybody else want to talk about something before we launch into the main topic? Cool. All right. So, yeah, we are talking about composition notebooks today, kind of in honor of NaNoWriMo. And we thought LES would be a really good guess because I feel like, Les, you're pretty informed about composition notebooks and you have opinions, which is good. You have opinions about a lot of things, which is good.

So I think we can all, I think most of us, at least, who grew up in the US probably beyond kind of knows what these composition notebooks are. There's sort of this archetypical, like, cheap notebook that's bound, you know, not with like spiral binding or something like that, with like a black and white marble color cover. I've definitely seen them in different. I remember in the 90s they had Lisa Frank ones that were sort of that Lisa Frank rainbow in that marble.

Yeah. Write in them with your yext pencils. You can get those all over the place. They're generally cheaper. Well, they are. I think that's a big characteristic of like a trait of them. But what's so great about composition notebooks?

Thank you.

Yeah, they're, I think, yeah, they're one of the things, you know, that really, I mean, I think a lot of office supplies are like this, but they age really well, which honestly is unusual for like, really cheap ones because like Those, you know, 10 cent target spiral notebooks, they do not age well. They age terribly.

Yeah, yeah. So I think, yeah, that's definitely a great thing. They're really ubiquitous. They're inexpensive and they are really rugged.

Yeah.

usually like a cardboard or like a thick cover stock. Right?

Yeah.

See, college rule. For the longest time, I probably spent 10 years like in college and beyond looking for college ruled ones because for such a long time I feel like all I was able to find were wide ruled.

And then I remember when like one day Staples had a college ruled one

So everybody cause a panic, go and hoard them.

So what do you use all those composition books for?

Yeah. So do you, do you use them kind of primarily or do like, are they like the main paper product that you use?

Yeah.

Yeah, they're. When you start off with them, they're really like, they're really stiff. I. I think they do soften up.

Yeah. So, yeah, definitely, like kind of when you work your way through them, they. They definitely soften up.

Yeah.

Yeah, you posted that. And I totally. I've never seen that before that brand. So I need to check this out.

Interesting. Yeah.

But. But it's.

Our comment is. There is no comment.

It's like, yeah, I'm sure you're going to get on that, aren't you?

Interesting.

Yeah.

No, I'm super excited that you know about these things because. Yeah. So tying it back to pencils, you know, I know like no composition book, you know, they're. They're all different, but generally ballpark. What are some of the best pencils for composition notebooks?

Yeah. They're generally like a little bit cheaper paper and probably just like, toothier.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's poetic that I feel like Ticonderogas, even though they're no longer made in the U.S. they're very, like, iconic U.S. pencils. And composition notebooks are very, like, iconic U. S. Notebooks.

I feel like they go together pretty well.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Sorry. I don't want to.

All right. So mine is weird. I mean, they're probably all weird. I never really paid attention to them for a long time. Kind of going through grade school until probably like, like fourth grade or fifth grade or so. Do you guys. Is anybody familiar with this, like, adolescent comic called Big Nate? Have you guys heard of this? Johnny? It's. It's like a comic strip that was kind of. I think it was from the early 90s. It's this kid named Nate. He's a sixth grader and he has like, he's. He's kind of an outcast, but he's really into cartooning and drawing and he writes his own comic strip. So not only is he in a comic strip, but then sometimes there is a comic strip too that he writes. And it's really weird because it's taken on this new life. You can buy editions that were like. They released three of them this year in 2016, but there was one that was published in 1992, and then later on it didn't appear again until 2001. So I'm not quite sure why there was such a big break. And I had to go and confirm that this was Big Nate, because I remember this first notebook or this first comic book, and I was super into it for reasons I don't understand or want to get into, but he always, always wrote in a composition notebook with the black and white marbling. And I guess I didn't realize that these were so ubiquitous and something you can buy because I think I was always, you know, I always had like, spiral bound notebooks. So I just remember having this book and the book itself had like, the edges were like black and white marbled too, or what do they call it? Cloud. Printed cloud. Designed. I don't know, the composition notebook thing. And so I actually. The first time I saw a composition notebook in like Office Depot or something, I was so excited. I was like, that's like that notebook that Big Nate uses. My mom's like, yeah, it's a composition. So I clearly remember buying my first one of those and just sort of like, oh, I'm going to draw cartoons in here. It's going to be amazing. I was probably like, I was probably like 9 or 10 or 11 somewhere around there. Yeah, it's kind of Stupid. Now it's a dumb personal story. Sorry, everybody. But yeah, that's when I first became aware of composition notebooks.

Yeah. Kind of dumb.

Johnny, do you have one?

Were they plain blue cover?

Yeah.

It's interesting. I really wish that I could, like, go back and tell my younger self to, like, hoard some of these school supplies that I used to have. Because I think we've talked about it before and I definitely used a certain particular brand of pencil when I was in first and second grade that I just don't have any idea what it is anymore. I'm pretty sure it was like the Dixon, like, school pencil. Either that or it was. I don't know if I'm old enough to have used like, this AW Faber pencil that was around. But it was one of those, I swear. Yeah. But, yeah, I wish I still had some of those around.

Wow.

So jealous. You know we get like cool like high end Japanese stationery out here, but we don't have like little art stores like that.

it's Artists and craftsmen. Yeah, I'm gonna look them up right now.

There is one in San Francisco. Oh man. There's one in Berkeley and there's one in sf. Okay, we have to go, everybody. I have to run out before.

Yeah. It's only 6:42pm here.

Yeah. Oh yeah. This one closes at 7:30. Yeah, yeah. Okay. This weekend I'm totally going to hit that up. Cool. Anything else we should talk about regarding these composition notebooks?

Oh yeah, I should have. Do you remember probably three years ago, maybe four, trying to remember where I lived, which is kind of how I like count things now. I was definitely. When I was living in Indiana, Target had this really great. You know how they have like four or five designs, like illustrations and designs that like live in other like in various like mediums. In their back to school stuff they had, they had this one that was a like hand drawn like robot and the composition notebook had like a light blue black background with red tape and like this robot on the COVID And it was great. It was fantastic. And there were folders that were like sketch paper looking things with robots on them. Yeah, those were super great. I actually have like three of those that I'm just kind of hoarding away. I. Yeah, I just really love that. I'll post a picture of it to the, to the group or to the episode page. But yeah, that's like not kind of the traditional marbled composition notebook. And mostly I just stick with those. But that's one time I kind of variated from that or varied from that because I like it a lot. Yeah. But they had one this year that

Oh, I think you posted a picture of that.

Yeah. So I asked the group or the people in the chat right now if they have any questions for you, Les, and actually somebody asked, do you know of any other narrow rule brands? Any other.

But the Meads, they're those plastic ones, right?

Oh, so. So Miquette is clarifying. Not college ruled, but narrow ruled.

What do you think about graph paper? Are there any that has graph in it?

Yeah. Oh, Dr. Hans Noodleman, one of our favorite people asked, not sure if it came up before, but. Les, have you tried the decomposition books?

Why is that?

Rage.

They cost so much. They, they're all over the like little hipster like gift shops in the like the stationery section. You know, they sell like, some black Wings, and they sell some decomposition notebooks and, like, you know, some of those crappy, like, hipster saying, you know, pencils with, like, words stamped on them.

What, at a college bookstore?

It's either that or, like. Yeah, Gallery leather.

Yeah, they look pretty on the shelves. They look fun. I've noticed with some of those, like, really gimmicky brands. Yeah. They're just, like, not that great of quality. I've noticed that with the unemployed Philosophers Guild, like, pocket notebooks, too. They look cool, but they're just, like. They spend a lot on that rather than on the actual quality.

Yeah. It's too bad that good quality notebook destroys the environment.

Pretty soon we're all just gonna be writing on leaves.

We'll be selling them for, like, food and water.

Just paper nuts.

Is there anything that you kind of wanted to talk about in regards to comp notebooks that we haven't mentioned? Les?

Yeah. Props to Johnny for coming up with somebody goes. Go back to Papyrus when it comes to some of those fancy notebooks. Props to Johnny for coming up with these questions. You spent a lot of time on these. These are great.

So we should probably button it up then. Les, where can people find you on the Internet?

some epic Twitter rants.

Yeah. Cool. And if you're in the Facebook group. You will see her there a lot and chances are maybe you have gotten kicked out of the group by her before.

so thank you so much Les for being on the show. This is awesome. We have to have you back again. Tim's next child once he finally catches up with Johnny Johnny, where can people find you on the Internet?

You've had some Inktober pictures like a lot of.

So Tim Wasem should be back next week, although I can't make any promises. Maybe we'll hear some stories about beautiful Lila. I am Andy Welfle. I am@woodclinched.com, you can catch me on Twitter at awelfley or oodclinched. And then I'm on Instagram as Awealthly as well. And this is the Erasable Podcast. We are on the web at Erasable Us. You can find this episode with show notes link to our stickers which are still on sale at erasable us63. Come join our amazing Facebook group where we have 1300 members strong, incredible discussions every day. Facebook.com groups erasable or if you just want to follow our page to get updates about episodes or interesting new things, we're@facebook.com erasablepodcast we're on Twitter and Instagram as well. Erasablepodcast. Please rate and review us on itunes. If you use a podcatcher like Overcast or Castro or some Android ones that I don't know about, there's often ways to recommend us. Please do so that helps us get discovered and liked by more people. So again, thank you Les for being on and I will talk to you all next week. Or rather two weeks from now maybe.

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