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I think I feel like the hipsters are getting into guns. And you think they'd get into, like, Elmer Fudd guns, but no. Hello and welcome to the erasable podcast, episode 2o. Tonight's episode is sponsored by Notegeist, who is entering their holiday sale period. And they are the home of all manner of pencils, new and old. I am Johnny Gamber, and I am here with the co hosts who have won my heart 20 times over now, Tim Wasem and Andy Welfle.
Hey, Johnny.
How are you guys doing?
Hey, Johnny.
Very good.
Doing well.
Excellent. So we've got a cool show tonight. We haven't recorded in a while, so we've got lots of fresh points and cool new stuff to talk about.
I definitely want to thank you guys for bearing with me as I packed up and moved across the country and took a break from. From podcasting stuff.
So, yeah, how dare you not have a lot of free time? So thank you.
They've just been brooding for three weeks.
Yeah. So thank you too. And also thanks all the listeners for, like, not getting your pencil fixed for three weeks.
Tim and I talked. We almost did it without you last week.
Hey, you should have.
I deserve it.
Actually, we recorded like, two or three episodes and just.
Sorry, Andy.
I still love you. You have that blocked. I can't access it.
Excellent. So do you guys want to start with our tools of the trade? Yeah. What we're drinking and writing with and perhaps writing on.
Sure.
You want to go first, Mr. Andy?
Sure. So I am drinking. Okay. So I found out here this thing, it's called Reed's Extra Gingerbrew. And are you guys familiar with this?
Sounds delicious.
It's super, super, super sharp ginger ale.
It's like, real, like, Jamaican ginger ale, right? Yeah, yeah, we have it here, actually, weirdly enough.
Well, like, you live in, like, the home of, like, so much cool soda. Yeah. But I found this, and I just have been just kind of addicted to it because it's really good. And I'm drinking that I don't actually have. I'm staying in this temporary apartment that has, like, nothing in it. So all of the, like, food and beverages I have basically are stuff I carried home from Facebook. So I have, like, nothing else here. I have no alcohol, so I've been drinking this. And I am writing with a Muji wooden hex pen, which we'll talk a little bit more about a little later.
Did you forget that C I L on here on our notes?
No, that is a. It's a pen.
I'm Glad we did two without you last week.
So this is something I was going to talk about in the freshpoints, but I can mention this here. So I brought kind of a limited stock of pencils with me to. Just because I didn't have much room and I've just sort of. I've been meeting a lot of people who are like intrigued by my pencil obsession. So I've been giving a lot of my pencils away. And so I'm actually kind of running low on pencils and we need to
send you a care package.
I mean, well, I'm thinking about just going like next weekend going into the city and like finding some, like some black wings or something. And Charles I met with, I had brunch with Charles on Sunday and he, he gave me some, one of, one of each, three of the black wings so I can just break those out again. But I did bring my classroom friendly pencil sharpener out here. I brought like the two things that weren't like lightweight clothes. I brought my. I brought my podcasting microphone and I brought my pencil sharpener. So those are the two things that made the cut. But anyhow, I also. It's just super intrigued by this Muji stuff, which I'll talk about later. But I'm. Yeah, I'm using the pen from it right now and I'm writing in my field notes Ambition Memo book that I just, that I picked up, I just cracked open. So I'm liking this paper a lot. Yeah. How about you, Tim?
I'm drinking a Highland Brewing Company Thunderstruck Coffee Porter. I think I've had this before on the podcast, but it's a favorite of the season and I'm writing with a Blackwing 602. Enjoying it. I've got the pink eraser swapped out for the black one. Nice. It's like the perfect length, maybe like six and a half inches, something like that.
I like it when it hits that sweet spot.
And I'm writing in my podcast field notes, which is the Red Blooded with the sticker podcast sticker on the front.
Those are getting harder to find. I've been out of print longer.
The Red Blooded or the stickers?
Red Blooded and the stickers the stickers more. So, yeah, I gave one away today. I'm like, hey, I only have like four of these.
Let's go.
We have to get some more made soon. But everybody's always happy with them, so that's good.
This was the first three pack I ever bought, the field notes. And this is actually the first one I'VE used of that three pack side. I bought this and then I got. And I forget what the other first pack was that I had bought, but I used that one first and then I just. By the time I made it to this, I had already bought like another two dozen. So I'm still working my way through.
Did you get the red field? Not celestial pencil?
No, I didn't.
They had a special. It's pretty.
Was that for the subscribers?
Um, I think it was like a Valentine's Day thing. I dropped a lot of hints to my wife, like, I need this. And then I didn't get it, but I got it. The next year I'm drinking Coke because my wife's trying to get me off coffee. She's gotten off coffee. So we were talking about this earlier. I think caffeine and I don't mix. I know there's coke and caffeine or caffeine and Coke. It was here and I'm thirsty. I'm just a little whiskey in it
to counteract the caffeine.
Yeah, it balances out.
Yeah, There you go.
I'm writing with an old general cedar point. And I don't know if you guys have ever taken one pencil and used it. Only in the classroom. Friendly pencil sharpener so that it starts looking like a bug's been eating it from the bite mark. But it's really cool. At a certain point it's just like a ribbed pencil.
It's awesome. That's what this is.
Ribbed for your pleasure.
Extra grippy. Naked. Naked Cedar point. We're going to edit this out.
What happened to this podcast? Remember when we used to be like family friendly?
The kids segments and.
Yeah, sing alongs.
Texture of the shaft of a pencil. It's very clean. You'd have to read into it to see something dirty in the shaft of a pencil being ripped.
Well, at least we're not like the fountain pen people talking about their wet nibs.
Yep. Terrible. And I'm writing in one of those new DDC field notes that everybody went crazy to get and for some reason they're not sold out yet.
That's crazy.
I don't understand why they're not sold out. They're really nice. Yeah, I guess it's good that he put the two limit because then.
Has he opened it back up yet?
I don't know. I haven't been on there. I got my two and just kind of jumped shipped.
Yeah, whatever.
I don't care who gets one now.
Yeah, that's not nice piece of oat.
Yeah, but the paper is different. We can talk about it more later. Yeah, I like the paper a lot.
Yeah.
So do you guys want to move on to our pencil of the week, the Palomino golden bear?
Yes. Let's do it.
So what did you guys think of this pencil?
So I think. I think I'm a pretty vocal advocate for the golden bear. It's funny. I was actually at brunch with Charles. I was talking about when I very first started blogging about pencils. For pencil things, I used a golden bear. And I'm pretty sure that particular pencil, it was either a dud or had been dropped a few times because the core kept breaking. And I was telling Don, who was the proprietor of pencil things, I was like, you know, people talk a lot about how great this pencil is, and I just don't see. It just keeps breaking. It keeps breaking. And Don, like, wrote me an email and copied Charles on it before I ever even knew Charles. Just like to see what was going on with it. So we just kind of determined it was a dud. And then all the golden bears I've used since then, I just really loved. But to me, this is like the ultimate semi cheap because it's so inexpensive. It's what, 225 a dozen? 295. 295. And it's. And the quality is obviously not like blackwing quality, but it's, in my opinion, really good.
So they do come in a better box too.
Yeah, better box. And I just love, like, I like a natural pencil, but I love the glossiness of that blue lacquer on the golden bear and then the orange eraser. Like, my favorite is the blue with the orange eraser. I know a lot of people are
reverse, but really, I like the blue one too.
Yeah.
Yeah, I do too.
Who's talking about how they like the orange one better in the group? I can't remember.
A good friend of mine really likes the orange one. Yeah, he really likes orange pencils. He's a fireman.
Hmm. Yeah, I mean, I really like that one too. But, yeah, the blue one is my favorite. And I just. It's my favorite. So I. I give it. I give it an A plus plus.
It's high praise.
It is. Yeah. I've never had a. A golden bear that has had that problem you had, Andy.
Yeah.
Actually, one thing that I. Main thing I wanted to point out about the golden bear is that it was. I also don't think I've ever used one. I've used a lot by now, that hasn't had a nicely centered core.
Yeah.
That sharpened, kind of wonky. I've never had. I've never had that happen, which I hadn't realized till today when I was sitting down to jot down some notes about it to get ready for tonight. That I've never had that experience. Yeah.
That's good.
And actually, I bought. This is actually from my original first 12 pack that I bought. And I bought because of Andy. Our first conversation. We were. Before we.
We're just DMing back and forth a lot on Twitter.
Yeah. Yeah. For like, an entire evening.
Yeah.
And it was just something you had recommended to me. And then I made my first order, and I remember running my order by you on Twitter. This is what I got. I got this, this, this, this.
Yeah.
Because it was when I had just discovered pencils dot com.
Yeah.
It's like, it's one of those things where you discover it and you're like, wait, it's just pencils dot com. Like, how did I not think of this?
It was so awesome. Back when I had it@pencils.com email address, I was like, yeah, but that was. Yeah.
Awesome.
Well, woodclinched is very nice.
Yeah.
Address that.
Yeah, definitely.
If anybody wants a woodclitched email address,
I can hook you up on that, man.
Yeah.
Jfg.
Anyhow, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I love it. I give it. I give it a solid A. For sure. I give it an A. And another thing that I really like about it, compared to. I can't help but compare it to the Prospector, because it was the last one we did. It's also. They're just. They're so close to each other in price point on pencils dot com. But this one's just so much better.
Yeah.
So much better. Yeah. And even just the little. I mean, the fact of the quality of the wood and, like, looking at the tip, you actually see the wood grain.
Yeah.
It's a really beautiful wood grain there at the end and the lack there. You know, the paint job is nice and clean. It's got the little horse. I just love it. And I'm with you on the blue. I prefer the blue usually, but the orange is also very nice. I use both of them probably almost on a daily basis these days. It's one that I readily pick up at school because I can always count on it.
Yeah. You know, that golden bear is very close to the bear on the California flag. So when I'm out and, like, I see a California flag, Flying. I just see that bear on there, and I'm just like, yeah, like, golden bear pencils.
A really good state flag out there.
Yeah, that is. That's a good one.
I'm a little less charitable than you guys because, I mean, we're not supposed to be objective with this, right? I hope not. I keep comparing it in my head to the old one had a bear on it.
Yeah.
So I. I think the new one performs better. I definitely like the lead a lot better. It's darker and it's a lot smoother. But I have to give it a B because I missed the bear and I.
And I do love the old untipped golden bears. Or unerracer. The capped ones.
Yeah. Someone in their Facebook group was looking for some. I wish I had more in the house if I find some. Oh, man, they were cool. The end dip on that was perfect.
Yeah. And I do miss the triangular ones. I told Charles I probably have, like, 50 of those triangular ones. And he goes, I think you have more than we have.
And you're hoping for him to say, hey, we've got a few boxes of those sitting around. Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like a tipped triangular. What?
Yeah.
You do a tipped forest choice. That'd be pretty fantastic.
Oh, yeah.
Like a nice green tip. Yeah.
Oh, man.
Charles, if you're listening, he should be.
He better be.
Write this down. Write this down. Yeah, it has a. I think the golden bear has a really great point retention, too.
Yeah.
Which, I mean, it's for. For an hb. That's kind of the point of an hp, but I. I'm always very pleased with this when I use it, and I. I don't think I give it enough. Love.
Yeah.
That. Like when I talked about last. Last episode with the Prospector, and I said, I just won't pick it up. Like, it's not that it's that bad, but I'm never going to choose to pick it up. Yeah. Because I've just tasted things that are better. But this one, even though it's only. What is it, 75 cents more or something like that.
Yeah.
I'll still. I'll pick this one up. And I do pick it up very
regularly, so not to split hairs, Tim, but I'm interested to know why you went with an A and not an A plus. Do you have any criticisms, like, minor criticisms of it?
Uh, minor criticism or any sort. I tend. Yeah. No, I tend to not be nuts on full hex pencils.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah, that's. That's that's the main thing. Like, if it was a semi hex, I'd probably like it a lot more. If it was. If it was a natural finish without any coating and a semi hex, I'd. And I'd probably be in love.
I do feel like the new Made in America golden bears are a little bit sharper of a hex than. Than the ones from before.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. From the California Republic brand.
Oh, yeah. Those were thinner, too.
Yeah, they were a tiny bit thinner. And I feel like. Yeah, they were. They were not quite as sharp. Yeah.
And the paint was a little glossier before.
Yeah. That's my only minor, minor reason for not giving it an A plus, which I see those kids who come up to me and they're like, how come I. What did I lose points on? Like, you got a 97. You got a 97. Don't worry about it.
I'm just reminded of Lane from the Gilmore Girls, if you are familiar with.
I'm just. Just getting into it.
Yeah.
Yeah. Good luck on that rabbit hole. Cool. So you're on season five by now, since you just got into it.
No, like, I'm on episode two. Like, I literally just. We just got into it. We're still working through some other shows, but we just wanted something different. So we tried the first episode and liked it a lot.
Katie and I are in season three because we were watching together, and then I moved out of the States, so we won't be able to see them again until 2015. Yeah.
Friends will be on Netflix in 2015.
That's true.
Very exciting.
My wife has them all on dvd, so, as you said, she made that investment before Netflix Instant was, like, a thing.
I wonder if they're going to put it in widescreen or. They did with Gilmore Girls. Oh, yeah, that would be nice. They do that in syndication here whenever I can catch it in a blue moon.
Yeah.
Anyhow, one last thing I wanted to say about this pencil that I feel kind of bad about is that between the two golden bears and the two prospectors, I still like the natural prospector the best. Looks wise.
Yeah. What about a natural golden bear?
That would be a pretty damn fantastic pencil.
That would. That's. Oh, for sure.
Plain, feral, and maybe even do some with a blue eraser and some with an orange eraser. Oh, my man. We should get a kickback for them to make it.
Yeah. Now, one other thing that I notice that kind of. And I don't know if this is just bad lighting, but it's a little weird. That it's got a red stripe on the ferrule, that it's blue, red and orange.
So I feel like they used to be an orange stripe. Am I wrong about that, Johnny?
Oh, they used to be orange on the orange and blue on the blue.
Yeah.
Which was the blue one. Just really good.
Yeah.
Now they're both red. And that's a little. That's a little weird.
That is weird. I wonder if it's like a faded Marauder. Yeah, I wonder if it's a dark. Like it's actually like a dark orange or something like that. It just kind of looks red.
Yeah.
The erasers on the new ones are definitely better, though. The old ones.
Yeah, that's true.
Bad erasers.
They got really, like, crumbly.
Yeah. I feel like the orange ones, the blue eraser on the orange pencil was always dry as soon as you got it. Yeah, it's like extra wood. Terrible. So do you guys want to go to our fresh points?
Fresh points.
The meat and vegetarian potatoes I see said that wrong. Vegetarian potatoes, turkey and mashed potatoes of this podcast for all of you vegetarians.
Meaty potatoes.
Cow potatoes.
Cow potatoes.
Ew.
We get scatological.
Well, here's just, I guess, like a housekeeping kind of a fresh point. We are super excited. We kind of had a. Like, we kind of decided a while ago that once we got our first sponsor, we were going to switch over to Squarespace. And it doesn't help that or it does help that I left my old job where I got free hosting and I need to either start paying them monthly or move my stuff off there, which includes the erasable website and audio hosting. So we're going to be moving to Squarespace sometime between the release of this episode and the next one. And I have no idea what that's going to do to your podcast feed readers. I'm actually going to try to see if I can get my Curly to have like a five minute phone call with me or email message just to see, because he's an expert at moving podcasts around between, like, servers and domains. So at the very worst, I think what should happen is it might just like, if you have, like, episodes saved into your. Into your reader, it may just, like redownload them. Like, you too, listener. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm just going to go ahead and put these new ones on. So I apologize and I'll make sure in the group to announce ahead of time before we do this. But yeah, it should just. It should be a pretty easy swap. I'm just going to switch out the feeds in the feedburner and I imported everything so the content shouldn't be lost. But I just really have like no idea what's going to happen. So it'll make things a little bit easier for us to like publish and structure the show notes and everything to kind of look a little better because I feel like our current WordPress website is a little janky looking and it's much cleaner. So yeah, that's going to happen. And then we can start getting like the Squarespace sponsorship, which of course half the Internet they sponsor. But yeah, no, yeah, that'll be fun. I've been having a lot of fun playing around with Squarespace and figuring out how it works because they just don't. It doesn't operate like kind of a lot of the cmss that I'm used to, so it's. It's pretty cool. I also wanted to mention. So I swear that not everything in what I talk about will eventually be related to me moving to San Francisco and all that stuff. But that's just like such. That's like only my life right now. So there's only. I only have that to talk about. So on Sunday I went to. Into San Francisco. I'm staying kind of down in Silicon Valley right now to have brunch with Charles Berlzheimer and gosh, Andy, stop talking about yourself.
Gosh.
What is, what's happening?
Name dropping.
So, yeah, my friend Charles and I, it was nice. I gave him some like notebooks that I, that I liked and he gave me some pencils. But then that was a short walking distance to the Muji store. And I know that we've talked about Muji before in the group and I think on here, but it's basically like, think of Ikea but Japanese instead of Scandinavian. And like office supplies and home goods and clothing rather than like a lot of furniture. Like, it's really inexpensive but like pretty well made and very nicely and simply designed.
Fewer meatballs.
Yeah, yeah. And there's no meatballs that I could find. Maybe, maybe I have some. But yeah, I first heard about Muji when. This sounds so hipster, but like, I first heard about Muji. Lifehacker does this series called this Is How I Work and they interview like famous people about their organizational system. And Ira Glass from this American Life talked about how the only notebook he buys and writes in are Muji notebooks. And then I think it was crap. It was either Modern Stationer or Mike Dudek. And I can't remember got one of the Muji fountain pens. Do you remember this guy's.
I do not remember that.
I'm going to look for the link. I can't find it right now.
You can keep talking.
Where is the link? I. So, I mean that was pretty good. It was about just like these. This really nice like 15 fountain pen that they use with this like knurled grip and they had like a pocket like a smaller size fountain pen. So I sort of had the Muji store in the back of my head and I. When I came to San Francisco for my interview, I was going to go to it and ran out of time. But this time I went and I just. Oh man. I dropped 100 bucks at the Muji store. But it's, it's all Japanese, so it's has a lot of like fine tip stuff. Like this ballpoint pen that I'm using has this beautiful like semi hex wooden barrel and this like really pretty brushed aluminum style, like cap and pocket, clip and tip. But it's also like 0.7mm, which for a ballpoint is really thin. And they had like a bunch of like point three, I think point four. Actually like rollerball pens and gel pens. I picked up a bunch of that stuff. They actually don't have a wooden pencil, which is kind of sad. They should correct that. But yeah. And they have some really nice notebooks, so I bought a crapload of them. I bought one of those fountain pens too, because I want to see how they are. I'm not a heavy fountain pen user, but I like foam pen, so. Oh, here, here's the link. Okay. It's a. It's the modern stationer blog, which I maintain has one of the best blog designs.
Yes.
On the Internet. It's. It's actually I'm using. I'm totally using his using that same squarespace template for the erasable site.
Doug's got it going on. It's a great blog.
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, he went to the Muji to Go store, which is at JFK airport, which is really cool. And I haven't been to JFK since then. So yeah, I went to the store in Soma and yeah, it's gorgeous. So. And there's cheap. Like that nice fountain pen is 15 bucks. So that's so great. So yeah, that is my Muji experience. I recommend everybody go to check out Muji if you are so inclined. Oh, and I guess Heath from Pen, Paper, Ink, Letter. No, no, no, no, that's not it. Pen, paper, pencil dot net. Who is that?
I don't know.
Is that Ian? Yeah.
Yeah, he's got a really good list.
Yeah. Ian Headley. Yep. He's the same guy from the search engine. Yeah, he did a. He did a review too. Man, I missed this one.
Yeah, both those guys have really good photography.
Yeah, those are. Yeah, those are really great photos. I. Yeah. I'm so jealous. I can't take pictures like that. I'll have both of these links in show notes, but check out. Check out Muji. The last thing I was gonna mention. Well, yeah, and freshpoints. This is the last thing I'm gonna mention is the Nakko the dot dash pocket notebook which they just announced today. Have you two seen this?
I have missed it.
I think I saw a picture of something yellow.
Yeah, it's a little yellow pocket notebook and it has that kind of dot dash design in it, which is kind of a grid, kind of some dots and some dashes. I actually have not used any of the dot dash stuff yet. I don't really do the index card thing, but I'm going to pick up a few of these pocket notebooks.
They're really nice.
Yeah.
Are they all yellow?
The note cards are nice.
Yeah. Yeah, I think. I think all the pocket notebooks are yellow. And what's the color?
A lot.
Yeah. What's cool about them is rather than, you know, folding up open from the long side, it folds up from the top like a reporter notepad. I can see some situations where that's really handy. I went to school for journalism and I used to just buy those, like, moleskins that like the reporter notepad ones that flip up.
So.
Yeah, I like the flip up kind a lot. And then being left handed is. Sometimes it's nice not to drag your hand through the ink on the other
side of the pencil, man.
Yeah.
And then.
Yeah, I like those a lot. So check those out at Knotco. Oh, and the other cool thing is they fit in the little Hightower area, so you can just like slip them in and then just slit the back end so you can just open that up and just write straight from that. That's pretty cool.
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I didn't think about that. They. They announced on the or. Brad mentioned something on the podcast this week that they're getting ready to. Or sometime in the spring, they're going to be launching a Fodder Stack xl. Did you hear about this? Yeah. That it's going to be the Fodder stack, which is an awesome idea to begin with, but it's going to. To Be a little bit bigger so that it can fit like field notes. Yeah. Huh. So it's. You can actually just slide notebooks into it and it'll have the sheath for the writing utensil.
Yeah, I just want to make like a book bag or something like that.
He mentioned that that's in the future, but yeah, not soon.
Where's our pencil case?
Yeah. Yeah, dude. Club Brad.
Yeah.
I thought we were bros. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's my pencil case, boy? Call him up every morning once. Guys, where's my pencil case?
We'll get one in a week. There you go.
Whatever color you want, man.
All of you. Erasable. Like cross function erasable Pentagon listeners. Write into red and demand. Demand a pencil case.
Yeah.
So those are my fresh points. Tim, how about you?
Okay. The first thing I was going to mention is that I've made a long term commitment to a pencil, something I have not done before, which is the forest choice.
What do you mean by long term commitment?
I ordered 144 of them.
That's a pretty good commitment.
Yeah. Yeah. On Black Friday, pencils.com had a sale going and also free shipping on orders over $25. And so I ended up ordering. They had the forest choice on sale and then I had my teacher discount as well. And so I got a gross 144 forced choice pencils, a dozen Palomino HPS and two Kimberly B's on Johnny's recommendation. And I paid $26 for the whole shipment, which is really. Did you get this exciting sticker?
Did you get the Black Wing sticker?
No, that was a Black Friday thing. Black Wing Friday thing?
Oh, yeah.
Was I supposed to put a code in or something?
I have no idea.
I probably was.
I got one, but I lost it. What? Yeah, I picked up an early birthday present for a friend of mine so I could get a sticker. I'm very generous. I bought some of those cases. Thearon dash pencils for Charlotte. Doing the bright colors. Yeah, they're nice. I like the picture that you put on Instagram with the. The box of the forest choice pencils and all that bright pink eraser coming on the top.
Oh, yeah.
That make a really good like laptop background.
Yeah, that's true. Seriously, like, they're all spilling. Is that the one where they're all spilling out?
I think it was the one where you just had the top open.
Yeah.
Do you?
It's a huge box. It's so awesome. I just love it. And I. I took a dozen to school. I was like it doesn't even look like I took anything out of this box. Like I have a lifetime supply for choice pencils, which luckily I like them. I like them a whole lot. So I think it was the first. Yeah, I think it was the first pencil that I reviewed on my blog.
If you. Pretty sure if you send that picture to me, Tim, like the high resolution version, I'll make it the, like the splash banner on the, on the new site.
Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, I can send that to you.
Yeah, yeah.
Those are beautiful. Yeah. So that was first thing I was mentioned. The other thing was that I had a little bit of mystery on my hands since our last episode, which drove me crazy for like three days. I had decided in a very like, sort of like I was thinking, no, I can't buy the new DDC field notes. They're. They look great. But you know what? I have so many notebooks. It's okay, it's fine. I'm not going to buy them. I sent a text to Johnny and Andy saying, you know what? I've decided I'm just going to use what I've got. It's just what's going to happen. I felt fine about it. And this kind of bleeds into my next point. But about four or five days went by and I got two packages in the mail. The first one was a sealed three pack of Game Day field notes. Game Day from Joe Lebo, which I'll talk about some more, is amazing. I was so, so excited. And the other package was a shipment from ddc, like from Drap on Design, straight from them to my address with, with two packs of the DDC floor or what are they called, the factory floor, factory floor books. And I spent the better part of two days trying to figure out where they came from. I had all these theories swinging through my head about like how I had. I had put them in my cart and gotten up just to the point of where I like was hitting purchase and I didn't. And I was like, did it slip through somehow? Like, somehow did they just send it to me? Anyways, I was going through and like checking all of my, like my bank account, my credit cards. Like, did I buy these and just totally forget about. Was texting my like anybody I knew who would even have any idea who these are that like is close to me. I kind of got obsessed with it. And then I found out it was Andy.
So I just couldn't.
They were so like, I mean I got caught up in the fervor of like these won't stick around for very long. And now I see that they're, you know, still there.
Yeah.
But I really wanted you to have some so we would all have some.
And I really, really appreciate that. That was so, so nice.
I wasn't even gonna say anything, but then I was like, he's like, gonna go drive himself nuts trying to figure this out, dude.
You know, like, come, like, visit me, like, because you're worried about me. And there's gonna be, like a bunch of pictures pasted on the walls and, like, strings tying pictures together in my sunroom.
Yeah. Just wear a tinfoil hat.
Just straight in. Yeah. Like a little Beautiful Mind moment. Like, loot.
I have a theory. Solar flares, guys.
Solar flares that pushed my order through. So that was amazing. Thank you. Meant a lot. I was really, really surprised. Really happy. And then Joe. Oh, man. Joe Lipo. You just totally made my day. A sealed six pack or three pack of Game Day.
That's awesome.
Which also was like salt in the wound because I'm really missing baseball right now. So when those showed up, I was like, oh, baseball. It's like two months away before I'll even hear stuff. But that was a really great surprise. So I've actually been using one. I've got one in front of me, the white edition I opened up to fill with basebally things. I usually always have a notebook going where I'm like, keeping notes on things. And so this is my new one.
What is it? There's a green one and there's a brown one and a white one, right?
Green, brown and white. Yeah. And it's inside, it's got a dot, a dot grid. And it's like a basically like infield dirt colored dot grid, which is pretty perfect. This might be my. I mean, there's some bias in there, surely, but it might be my favorite edition.
Yeah, I loved that one.
Yeah.
You guys should come to San Francisco and see the Giants.
That's a good idea. I've actually seen the Giants in San Francisco once.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, I'd love to do that.
Yeah.
It's one hell of a road trip.
Yeah, it was actually. It was a road trip when I went there after graduating high school. Me and my two best friends drove from Chicago. We went to St. Louis, we went to Colorado, and then we went to the Grand Canyon. San Francisco, Louisiana. Portland.
Wow.
Yellowstone, Mount Rushmore, back home.
Wow.
It's like a three week trip.
Yeah.
And we got some free tickets to a Giants game along the way.
Wow.
So my last point. And that Was a tangent there. A little insight into my teen years. My last point is that I saw a post from John the twist. And the twist is shipping. Yeah. So there's an Instagram photo of all the different or just like of the packaging process that was really exciting to see. Yeah, they, we didn't give those guys some major props for just nailing their goal. Yeah, they, they said they'd have it by December and it's, you know, it's not a, not an easy thing with machining and there's lots that could go wrong and stuff and they just.
Well, especially because with the, all the add ons they had like the clips and the pens and all that stuff like.
Yeah, yeah. The different tips.
Yeah.
Which I think the clips then like the pens. The clips and the pens are going to be a little later.
Yeah, they were great about being forthright about it. They were like, hey, if you want all of this stuff together, you won't, this won't come by Christmas. But what we can do is send you, you know, send you the pencil itself beforehand and then, you know, send you the clips later. So I do, and I do appreciate them being like forthright about that.
Yeah, that was a great. Yeah, I totally agree. That was, that was really great for them to say, you know, we'll go ahead and send you your pencil and then you can get your add ons later. That's. I don't, I've not done. I've maybe supported five, four or five Kickstarter projects but I've never come across anything like that. I've got some that I'm still waiting on. Yeah, the, the whatever it is that they're making. It's an album with this one that they're still working on.
But.
Yeah, but that's all I've got. Johnny, what about you?
Well, today I got to have coffee with the folks from Write notepads who, you know, I don't know if I could be unbiased because they're from Baltimore, but they've got some new stuff out. They've got a new pocket ledger which is really cool. We were talking about this before. Nobody makes a pocket ledger. It's a 3x6 top top bound spiral notebook that despite having a thick cover, stiff cover is pretty pocketable.
Three by six is such an unusual size.
Yeah, they're like. So it's the same dimensions as a reporter notebook, just smaller. I think they're four by eight or eight by four whatever. But they have nice little rubber band at the bottom which they Did a good job of not looking too much like field notes with which I appreciate. And they've got this new logo that's just really cool that says this is a genuine write notepads and company product. Counterfeit is death. This sort of like. I don't know if those are roses around the corners, but it's really cool. And also they've got new pencils which I mentioned on the Facebook group. So the ones I had before were. They were nice but they were Andy's least favorite thing in the world, the foil wrapped ones. So then they looked natural and. But they were really plastic covered.
But you know, they broke.
Well, yeah, they did.
They were okay.
Yeah.
But I like.
They were round.
Yeah, yeah. They've got new ones now and they've got round hex and they brought out fat pencils which just makes me so happy.
They are gorgeous.
And they're left handed printed because Chris is left handed. And I especially like they make those left handed books.
Yeah.
So they have one that is burgundy. That's a hex pencil, which is a lot like a prospector. I think it's basswood, but it's really cool. Like the number two section is actually a silhouette of the United States with a 2 in it, which is pretty cool. And they've got a round one, which is the smoothest unfinished pencil ever. It sort of feels like a forest choice, but it's round so it's perfectly smooth. It's really cool. I think that's also basswood. And then the fat pencil is cedar. We carved one up in the coffee shop. So I don't know if you guys know of another fat pencil that's cedar anymore.
I'm not too familiar with fat pencils.
Yeah, the Tot by Musgrave. Not the Tot, the My Pal and the Ladee or cedar. But they're not full jumbo. They're half jumbo. But this pencil is just ridiculously pretty. This is probably my new favorite fat pencil. And I like fat pencils. I like fat pencils and I cannot lie and all that. The way they come is really cool. I'm sending like a fan, like I'm advertising for them. But they. They come in sort of a tube or a square tube, if that makes sense. They're nine to a pack, so they're three by three and they come with a coom sharpener at the bottom. Sorry, I'm reading this. So yeah, they're all on there. They're shipping now. Now their website says they don't ship internationally, so I know that a lot of our listeners are overseas and in Canada and such, so I asked Chris if he would do overseas. So he's. I think his answer is if there are enough orders and enough interest, then he'd be willing to work it out.
Otherwise Johnny will be your mule.
Yeah, they ship everything by hand, so they could probably figure it out. So I told him he should go on the Facebook group and just ask the question because, you know, we don't censor things. Except that one time. Yeah, that's. That's the end of my hawking. Aside from to say that they have white erasers, which I'm not a giant fan of, but they're really nice. They work really well.
Yeah.
So if you want some really good American made pencils, check them out. They're made by Musgrave, but Musgrave's own fat pencils aren't cedar anymore, so this is extra awesome. My second point is bragging because I quote unquote won National Novel Writing Month. Woohoo. But since then I haven't done anything with writing and I use gel pens, so I feel like really dirty. But I have like a whole pile of dead gel pens, which is cool because when you use pencils, you don't have the pencil anymore. It's gone. The last thing I wanted to mention is those awesome DDC books for all of you collectors that might not want to open them. They're really, really, really nice paper. That sucks for ink, but it's so nice for pencil. It's got a nice little texture. You can use your harder leads and get a nice dark line and they're oddly durable.
I know you say that orange kind of hurts your eyes, but I really like it. It's such an unusual thing.
I find if I use it in dim light, it disappears and then the pencil pops on the page. It's great. So I didn't look up. I don't know if this is the same paper they used in the Kohl edition because that one had a different paper too. That was not so good for ink.
Tell everybody what you said about the
copper color before somebody put it on field nuts. The there's a silver book and there's a gold book and the copper covered book is a combination of the two colors.
That's so interesting.
Yeah, I could have pulled that orange book, right?
It's silver and orange and you said gold.
Oh man.
It's silver and orange and copper. And the copper's a mixture, which totally makes sense. I never even thought about that.
Yeah, it's such a.
And it's. It's a really good way to like reuse some, you know, reuse your supplies.
Yeah, the silver one is very Christmassy, you know, looks very wintry. I popped that one out first. Plus it was like on the front and that made it simple.
Yeah.
I love the. I love the names of. Of each. Of each one. There's the Simple Minded Silver Streak, the Copper Pipe Night Raid, and the welcome Hunters. Orange Copper Pipe. Copper Pipe Night Raid is my favorite one.
That's awesome.
It's my new band.
Yeah, that's a good name for a band. Like a book of poetry.
What numbers did you guys get?
Oh, I don't remember.
Let me go check mine.
I wanted to get my anniversary, but I know I didn't.
That's all I remember.
They're sort of high.
I got 1302 and 1303.
Oh, nice. I got 13 something.
I think 15 something. 1320 and 13. Either 19 or 21. I can't remember because I. I didn't keep or. Actually Henry ate the belly band of that one.
Your son ate the belly band?
Yeah. I mean, not like he didn't consume it, he didn't digest it, but he just chewed it up.
I don't know how they're still for sale because everyone was sort of lining up and chopping at the bit that day.
I know. Oh, you know, I'm looking in the back of it right now and it says. Yeah, it says orange, silver, and it's wild amalgam. So they're talking about the. I love the way he uses words.
Yeah, I like a lot of the new practical applications shit. My dad used to say I have a notebook now and gambling debts. That's a pretty good one. I don't know what Ewok password archives mean.
That one's awesome.
I thought it was like a tech thing that I don't understand. Probably is.
You mean you're not on Ewok yet?
What?
It's my favorite new social network.
It's the new killer for Facebook.
It's the new Facebook killer.
Going back to Indiana. Will, please.
No, I totally got a job offer at Ewok.
Yeah.
What happened to Lo?
I don't know.
It's gonna crush everything. And we all sign up for it now.
Yeah, I don't know.
Lol. Lo.
Goodbye, governor.
Awesome. Well, you say hello, I say goodbye.
You say hello, I say Facebook. We have our first sponsor today. I think Andy's going to talk about a little bit.
We do. It is awesome. I kind of kept everybody guessing in the group just to get a little buzz about it. But but it is no Geist. So this week's podcast is sponsored by no Geist, which if you remember, we actually had Gary on. When was that? Three episodes ago? Four. I'll find the link and I'll put it in Show Notes. Right before they launched, we had Gary on talking about it. It's an online shop featuring notebooks from Field Notes, Word, Rhodia, Blackwing and those fun unemployed Philosophers Guild Passport notebooks. If you've seen those, pencil fans will find quality pencils at Notegeist. From Blackwings to Statlers to General's test scoring 580s and more, Gary's been pretty active in the group. He's pretty active in the Field Nuts group. He treats every customer order with special care, carefully packing, shipping, and always with a little something extra tossed in. You're not just an order at no Geist, you're a fellow stationary lover at the other end of an important long term customer relationship. You can of course find similar items at other online shops, but you can find unique things at notegeist and this is what really makes them interesting. They have a wide range of retired field notes, packs and singles, hard to find pencils, vintage stuff and esoteric office supplies. This week actually, Gary is running a holiday sale with discounts on select pencils, notebooks and lots more, including special shipping rates to the US and this is exciting for us listeners. Gary wanted to do something special just for the Erasable podcast listeners. If you place an order totaling $15 or more during the sale week, add the word erasables in the Order Notes field and he'll include a free pencil or sampler pack as a thank you for ordering and being a listener of the podcast. So take advantage of not just the holiday sale special, but the erasable gift pack as well by going to notegeist.com that's N-O-T-E-G-E-I-T.com and browsing the shop while you're there. Be sure to sign up for the Note Geiste newsletter for new product announcements and subscriber only specials, notegeist notebooks and writing tools to capture life's moments. So thank you. Thank you Gary for sponsoring Erasable and supporting pencils.
Yeah, my one order from them was super fast. Yeah, back when this unexposed came out and I was super pissed that I didn't get all six colors. I was complaining to Gary and I had him lickety split.
Two more packs when Ambition came out. I had the same experience that I decided to order through Gary. I got a three pack, a sealed three pack and then he sold me three individuals of the grid, the red grid edition. He had broken them up and sold them separately and for not really not much more at all than just buying them as a three pack. So it was a really great deal. So I got one of those and I actually got a Cold Horizon single too because I had never. I know it's not everybody's favorite, but I wanted to have one because I had never seen it and I was able to buy a single Cold Horizon as well.
Such a good way to like just try one out if you're, if you're not sure if you want to commit or not. Like, I love that idea and they're really that this isn't, this isn't further like, you know, sponsorship for Gary. This is just us talking. But I, it's, it's really not much more than if you were to just take a third of the price. So like I think it's maybe like just a few cents more for like each individual unexposed compared to like a third of the. You know what I mean? He's not, he's not marking them up really very much, which is pretty cool.
Yeah.
Yeah. Should we talk about some of our Christmas lists? So this is really funny, Johnny. So I guess Tim and I kind of thought we were doing like, like recommendations for Christmas. Kind of like. Well, no, it's. It was kind of like how, how Brad and Mike did it on the. And Anna did on the Pen Addict. But then I, then we both like saw your thing where you were basically putting down what you wanted to happen for Christmas and Tim and I were both like, that's actually a much better idea.
That sounds fun. Yeah.
So we kind of updated our stuff to match.
Mine aren't all realistic though. Well, still a couple hours show my wife.
Yeah, I guess I'll jump in. So me personally, I, I did buy an Ambition pack and I really plan on employing that planner this year or in 2015 I think. You know, not really as a planner but as a like oh, daily kind of memo journal. So just putting just a few lines about what I'm doing that day just to kind of remember and just log memory log. So those Ambition Planners are great and I'm afraid that it's not going to be a regular thing. So I'm hoping that I'll get one or more additional ones I can use in the future. I also am hoping for More erasable stickers, which is just us getting off our butts and doing it. And I think the new Squarespace site will be handy because it'll have built in ecommerce, and we can just do that. And then finally. This is something I've been noticing in my first couple weeks at Facebook is there are a lot of things with Facebook logos on it. There's water bottles and notebooks and T shirts and all sorts of things, but there are no Facebook wooden pencils. So I have no idea how to get started with that. But employees kind of have their own side projects, and I have started talking to people about making Facebook wooden pencils. That would be so cool.
Hook up Zuckerberg and Berlzheimer.
Yeah.
Yep.
Clash of the titans. They would. No, that would be really cool. So that's my. That's my new goal is, you know, not, like, doing my job well, but being the catalyst for Facebook wooden pencils.
You're already doing your job well.
Yeah, that is implied. Yeah. So, yeah, those are my three things.
Three.
Well, I've been trying to.
Satisfied guy.
No, I need to think of more, but I can't. So I'll think about a little bit more and weigh in if I can. So, Tim, how about you?
The first thing on my list is we've established my love for the Ladee Ticonderoga Ladi. And one thing that I haven't gotten my hands on yet, which I had planned to a couple weeks ago and then just kind of got a little gun shy with making the order. But the Ladee Tri Rites, a triangular Ladee, which I really, really want to try because there's. It seems like it would be about a similar size to the Triconderoga, but, you know, because the Triconderoga is bigger than a typical triangular pencil, like the Golden Bear triangular pencil kind of thing.
Semi jumbo.
Yeah. Yeah. And so we have the Triconderogas, which you can get at Staples or Office Depot or whatever. But those are terrible, is the only thing. So I really want to try these to. If we can get, like, the quality of the Ladee in a tri. Right. So that's. That's at the top of my list. They're not that expensive. I think it's like on Amazon, it's like 11 bucks for a 36 pack or something like that. It's really not a bad deal. And so I'd really like to get that. Like that to show up my stocking. Another, like, stocking stuffer kind of thing, I guess. Would be the. I've been. I've been trying to do some knife sharpening, which I'm really bad at it. But I'm having fun practicing the. Is it Opinel or Opinel number six. Opinel. Whatever. Op I N E L number six knife, which is the one that our buddy Luke Sinclair uses in his video. Yeah, Sharpen. And I've seen those around and I had actually been looking at them before. I had seen those just as like a pocket knife. Those are cool. And they're only 15 bucks or something like that. But I've heard good things with the quality of the blade and there's nice and simple. Actually have a funny story about those. Do you remember when I was talking to you about going to Asheville and going to that super hipster store with like the $400 jeans? Yeah. They had a knife by this company by up&L. I was like, oh, cool. In this case, that's. It's an Opinel knife and didn't have price by it. I walked up and was like, how much is that knife in the front case? Like, that's $160. Looked exactly the same, but it was a different kind of wood that apparently like floated. If you dropped it in water, which I'm sure people in $500 jeans are gonna be like slogging through. Slogging through the mud or like in the swamplands or something.
Man, I dropped my knife sharpening pin. Good thing it floats, man.
Yeah. Glad I sprang for the extra $140 because it floats.
Now.
I couldn't have just bought another $15 knife.
I bet everybody in San Francisco has one of those.
You just go to the park and there's like 20 people.
Everybody's sharpening their pencils. It's actually kind of a problem. It's creating a fire hazard.
All the pencil shaving shavings every, like forming balls. Like shaving balls of shaving.
We have tumble balls of tumbleweeds of pencil sharpening floating around the city.
It smell wonderful. I also would like. I never or I haven't had a chance to buy the Rhodia pad with yellow paper. The big Rhodia pad with yellow paper. That's the top of my list. And then maybe the more high dollar thing that I'd really like to get my hands on is a color subscription to Field Notes. I would love to do that. I'm gonna kind of wait around. I did ask for it for Christmas and so keep my fingers crossed that that happens. But if Not. I'm just gonna kind of wait around until I see an edition that I like, and then I'll jump on and subscribe from that edition.
So do you mean drop a hint to Henry?
Yeah. Henry. Hey, there you go. That's a good idea. It's kind of a. It's like $90 more than what is usually spent on me for Father's Day. When I say usually, I meant the only year that I've been a father. So. Last year. Yeah. So that would be great. Those are. Those are the ones that came to mind. The things that I would. I'd love to get, but I'm also very aware that I have plenty of pencils and plenty of notebooks, but those would make me happy.
That's cool.
Yeah. What about you, Johnny?
One thing that I ask for every Christmas, every birthday, and every Father's Day is one gross of the Palomino HB pencils in blue without the erasers. And my wife thinks I'm kidding. I love that pencil. They don't make it anymore. You get me a gross. I mean, if you gave me three gross, that'd be good, but I sell it for one.
Do they still sell them?
Yeah, for my birthday this year, she got me a dozen, and they were in a pencil case. I hope you're listening. And I looked at him.
Call her or something. Or like, anonymous text messages.
For the love of God, just give him some of these.
The same last name. Where are the other dozens? Like, what do you mean? Dude, this is a dozen. Gross, it's 12 dozen.
I ate that for breakfast.
But I do have a dozen of them scrolled away. That's something. Also, I want the first four field notes, colors, editions.
Oh, that'll be easy to come by.
Yeah.
If anybody listening is like, crap and money and they really want sound, I'll give you my address.
So it's the Butcher Orange and the Butcher Blue. And what else in the first floor? The first four.
The Butcher Orange, Butcher Blue, Grass Stain, and Grass Stain. Oh, five. I need the first five, because the. The first autumn, the first winter. Probably the best one ever. I don't have. I have from spring 2010 forward.
It's. Man, I'm just kicking myself because I knew about those colors editions from the start, and I'm just like, oh, who wants colors? Like, I just want the craft brown ones. Like, that's awesome. And I just.
Yeah, the first one was like, orange for winter. That's stupid.
Yeah. Yeah, duh.
I mean, if I had them, they'd just be Full. It wouldn't be worth any money, but be cool to say I had them.
Yeah.
And speaking of orange, the other thing is I want the Baron Fig Three Legged Juggler book. I hinted to my wife and something came from Baron Fig, so I think that's mine. So that's good. It's always nice to know you're gonna get something you want for Christmas.
I love the design on the packaging too.
Don't tell me. I didn't see it yet.
It's on the Internet.
And number four on my Christmas wish list is the founding of one more American pencil maker. So, like the field notes, colors, editions. If anyone has a lot of money and wants to make this happen, I'll smile a lot. I'll call you every morning Google hangouts and smile at you. Hey, good job.
Well, I'm proud to announce my next Kickstarter.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm not joking about the daily smile calls. And for number five, I'd like Bob Slate to open a store in Baltimore, which I know can't happen, but it'd be nice if someone from Bobsleigh listened to our podcast and wanted to, you know, come visit in Baltimore and do a pop up shop.
Can you remind us who Bobslate is or what Bobsleigh it is?
Bobsleigh. There used to be a stationary chain in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and then they closed shortly and then someone bought it and brought it back. So they have one, but it's the Mecca. It's awesome. You get to go in there and see all those notebooks you see on the Internet in person and they don't hound you or bother you. Like, I'm gonna pet this one. I'm gonna pet this one. I'm gonna buy this one. And they make their own notebooks, which is cool. They make reporter notebooks that I think I brought back for you guys. I mean, the paper sucks, but they're really cool books.
I like them.
Yeah. But yeah, if they open one in Baltimore, I'd be very happy. When we were in Boston, I bought so many I had to mail them all home to myself. And actually I don't know where they are, so that's a fail. But yeah, that's my Christmas list. So, you know, if you have lots of money, folks, the first five field notes editions and a pencil shop and a pencil manufacturer. So let's get on that. Charles, if you're listening and you really like me that much.
Gross.
Palomino. Hps.
You know he did nothing at brunch except just talk about how much he hates you.
I knew it.
He's just bad mouthing you all over the place.
That's what I did at brunch today too.
That's why we podcast for three weeks. So do we want to do a couple little reflections after 20 episodes? We have time for that.
Yeah.
So how do you guys feel about how. Not that we have a million listeners, but I feel like as soon as we started we had a lot of listeners.
I think, I think it definitely helped. I mean, first of all, this literally could not have happened without Brad and Mike and the pen addict. Like, I feel like that was a huge part of it. Not only because they, they supported us and they didn't like see it as a. See us as like a competitor or whatever. But yeah, we, we definitely like borrowed heavily from their listenership and I just can't thank them enough for the support that both of them have given us. I think that's a big part of it, so thank you guys so much for that.
Yeah, also our listeners and the Facebook group has just been a really fun thing to be a part of. And it's really kind of crazy how when we first started that, if you remember, like we were the ones posting every day. Like we were posting stuff all the time and. And now we, like there are listeners who post more than we do. It just kind of is self run, which is really cool. That and we can. And we're just kind of dropping in when we can to the community is amazing.
Like the fact that there's not one, but what, three European pencil swaps that are sort of like community branded. The erasable pencil swaps that we had nothing to do with is incredible.
Yeah, that's really cool. And you just meet so many nice people. I know you've talked about this before and Pennact has talked about it, but people in this community are so nice. There are not, you know, there are no jerks. They don't come across jerks. There are people who are very nice that'll send you things and like, are happy to let you try things and help you find things and find information for you.
And it's just really, very patient. Helpful.
Yeah, it's really, really refreshing and it's nice to, you know, I'm sure you all know this well, but just the, the look people give you when they find out that you're doing a pencil podcast. Really, I'm like. And then I have to say things. No, you don't understand. Like, I don't expect you to like it, but it's really enjoyable, and we meet really great people. There's over 350 of us now in the group that can have a place to go and talk about this stuff, which is really.
That's barely a tenth of our total listenership as well, which is pretty crazy.
Yeah.
I was talking to someone recently, and they were like, who listens to your podcast? Four people. No, like, 4,000.
Yeah, lots of people.
Like pencil man. That's why they make them.
Yeah. And then people will also say, how long is an episode? It'll be like an hour and a half. Like, what? I thought you were gonna say, like, 10 minutes. I'm like, no, no, no. There are three of us. It feels like 10 minutes. But it is a little longer because we enjoy talking about it, and thankfully, for our sake, people enjoy listening to it.
I got a bunch of cred from some of my new co workers from our interview with David Rees. They're like, you guys interviewed David Rees?
That's awesome.
Yeah. So I do. I do sort of recognize that if we want to continue to grow, you know, we're kind of on a really good path with the sponsorship, and I'm hoping that you will all take advantage of that sponsorship so you can prove that it is an effective thing and their money actually goes not only to support us, but to like, actually grow their sales, too, as we have different sponsors on. But.
And Gary is a pretty central, great member of that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. So big time. That kind of, you know, he's. He's really active in our group and field nuts. And he's just a great, great guy all around. So you want to support good people,
because this is definitely not us, like, hooking up with, like, a podcast advertising network. This is just some, like, bootstrapped, you know, let's get like, Gary and I. Gary and we were talking and made this happen. So I do recognize, I think that probably to continue to grow, we need to eventually transition into, like, more of a weekly podcast or more of a regular podcast, I should say, because we definitely, like, you know, we took a week off now, and that's something that, you know, we. The three of us haven't had that conversation yet. But I know that it's something that we're all kind of looking at and trying to make it. If it's going to be monetarily successful as well as just, like, creatively successful, we can probably all, you know, put some more commitment toward it. So I'm hoping. And I know that there are stuff. Yeah, I know there are yeah. More swag. Yeah. Yeah. And I know there are some of you who. Who have asked for more regular episodes or, you know, just more. Oh, like shorter. More regular episodes. So that's something where we're hoping to continue with in 2015.
Yeah. We haven't talked about paper in any major way yet. Right. We mentioned that before.
Yeah.
So that could be like four episodes. Yeah.
I can't even wrap my head around a paper episode. How. What it would need to be.
We better do that on a weekend.
That's gonna take all day.
Yeah. We'll do a live.
Mics are. Yeah.
Five hours. We'll wear out the mics.
It died. It died.
We'll do it live.
We do it on the phone and a tape recorder.
Totally analog episode.
Yeah.
Yeah. I love the Facebook group. I was actually gonna get off Facebook entirely until we started that group. It's kind of like, eh, Facebook's no fun. So I quit all the lame groups and we have a new group now. Facebook's fun.
I did the same thing. I've basically only been using it for. For the Erasable group and then just some. There's certain people that I. That's my main way of communicating with them, like over the messaging. But yeah, that's basically the only thing keeping me on there.
Yeah. Yeah.
Some of my favorite Facebook friends actually, I met through the podcast or our websites.
Mm.
I use Facebook. I use Facebook because I have to.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I mean, Facebook's amazing. Yeah.
Well, honestly though, like, it's. It like the groups like the Erasable group and the Field Nuts group, you know, just kind of like reinvigorated, you know, the purpose of it for me. And I do spend most of my time in the groups. We have a bunch of, like, internal groups for the. For the company. But yeah, it's definitely like in a time where, you know, there were elections happening and some of my Facebook friends were bad mouthing my candidate or just being really vitriolic. I could take refuge in the. In the pencil group for sure. Yeah.
Yeah. That's sort of the best of what Facebook is.
Yeah. Cool.
And the new app helps.
Oh, yeah. The new app is really nice.
Yeah.
So, yeah, thank you all for. For listening. This sounds like this is our last episode or something. I hope it's not, but yeah, it's 20 episodes. It feels like it should be more because, you know, in the space, like it's been 40. About 40 weeks, I guess so.
Almost.
Almost a year. And when do we start? In March.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah. We really need to. We need to clock the number of hours recorded because I bet that would be pretty interesting. I mean, it's at least an hour. So I bet we're up in like the 27, 28 hours of US talking about pencils, which is kind of nuts when you think about it.
Entertainment.
Yeah.
I have a Stephen King audiobook that I'm listening to right now that's like 48 hours, so.
Wow.
We're approaching the length of a full Stephen King book worth of pencil conversation.
So I would be interested from all of you, not only feedback in the group, but also in comments on the blog if you're not part of the group or tweets to us what you all would like to. I was going to say see from us, but I guess hear from us over the next 20 episodes and over kind of the direction that we want to go. What do you. What do you want us to do and want us to. To be like so.
Or want us to change if there's something that, like, any suggestions? We're always open to that.
Most of the feedback I got about that was firing Johnny.
So, yeah, I got the same feedback. I thought that was pretty ballsy for
people to say it straight to you.
Wait, Johnny didn't say that on the. Did you respond and say, what are we going to do about Johnny guy?
What are we going to do about the funny voices? If Johnny's gone, he could have this baby. So, yeah, even if it's not like, you know, do an episode about paper or like a specific episode thing, if you just have a broader kind of overall vision, we're all ears. We'd definitely love to hear what you have to say.
Yeah. Cool.
Awesome.
Well, anything else, guys?
Should we wrap them all up?
Yeah.
All right, sirs, where can we find you online, Andy?
I am at my website, which is woodclinched.com I'm also on Twitter @A Wealthley and Wood clinched. And I'm on Instagram too. It's at awfully.
How are you, Mr. Tim?
You can follow me on Twitter writingarcenal or imwassum. You can read my occasional writings at www.thewritingarcenal.com and I'm on Instagram therewritingarcenal. What about you, Johnny?
I am@pencilrevolution.com I'm on Twitter ensolution on Instagram onnygamber. All one word. I think that's it. That's it. So thank you to notegeist again. Don't forget to put erasables in the notes part of your order over $15 to get a free pencil sampler pack, which is super awesome of Gary. You can find us at Erasable us on our website where our Facebook group is facebook.comgroups erasable. We are on Twitter raceablepodcast and please do dial into itunes or your preferred podcast program or app and rate us because this increases our visibility and as we become more famous you might get more podcasts. So thank you.